00:00:08 . >> GOOD MORNING EVERYONE
00:00:12 AND WELCOME TO THE MAY 11TH 20 26 RULES COMMITTEE MEETING.
00:00:15 >> I'M YOUR CHAIR SUPERVISOR SHERMAN WALTON.
00:00:19 I'M JOINED BY VICE CHAIR STEPHEN CHERYL AND SUPERVISOR
00:00:22 OF COURSE PRESIDENT MANAGEMENT .
00:00:25 TODAY'S CLERK IS VICTOR YOUNG AND I WANT TO THANK EUGENE
00:00:29 IN THE BAY AREA FOR MAKING SURE THAT THIS MEETING IS PUBLICIZED
00:00:33 ON TELEVISION AT S.F. GOV TV. AND MR. CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY
00:00:37 ANNOUNCEMENTS? YES.
00:00:41 >> PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE TAKEN ON EACH ITEM ON THIS AGENDA.
00:00:45 WE ITEM OF INTEREST COMES UP AND PUBLIC COMMENT IS CALLED
00:00:47 PLEASE LINE UP TO SPEAK. I'LL TURN THE THEME IS MADE
00:00:49 PUBLIC IN WRITING IN EITHER THE FOLLOWING WAYS EMAIL THEM TO
00:00:53 MYSELF THE RULES COMMITTEE CLERK VICKI T O R DOT Y O U
00:00:57 AND G AT S.F. GOV.ORG IF YOU SUBMIT PUBLIC COMMENT BY EMAIL
00:01:01 IT WILL BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE FILE MAY ALSO SEND YOUR
00:01:04 WRITTEN COMMENTS FOR US MAIL TO OUR OFFICE IN CITY HALL ONE DR.
00:01:08 CARLTON V GOOD PLACE ROOM TWO FOUR FOR SAN FRANCISCO
00:01:11 CALIFORNIA NINE FOR 1 OR 2 PLEASE MAKE SURE THIS HANDLES
00:01:15 ALL CELL PHONES AND ELECTRONIC DEVICES.
00:01:17 ITEMS ACTED UPON TODAY ARE EXPECTED TO APPEAR ON THE BOARD
00:01:21 OF SUPERVISORS AGENDA OF MAY 19TH UNLESS OTHERWISE STATED.
00:01:25 >> THAT COMPLETES MY INITIAL ANNOUNCEMENT.
00:01:26 THANK YOU SO MUCH. WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL ITEM
00:01:29 NUMBER ONE ITEM NUMBER ONE MOTION APPROVING REJECTING
00:01:30 MARE'S NOMINATION FOR THE REAPPOINTMENT OF JEANETTE
00:01:33 HOWARD TO THE TREASURE ISLAND DEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY BOARD OF
00:01:36 DIRECTORS FOR A TERM ENDING FEBRUARY 26TH, 2020 NINE.
00:01:40 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH AND I KNOW JEANETTE IS NOT HERE.
00:01:44 HOWEVER, THIS IS AN APPOINTMENT A REAPPOINTMENT FROM THE
00:01:48 MAYOR'S OFFICE AND SHE HAS HAD TIME TO CONNECT WITH COLLEAGUES
00:01:51 AS WELL AS STAFF. SO WE WILL GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT
00:01:54 ON THIS ITEM IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS.
00:01:56 >> YES, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM
00:02:03 SHALL LINE UP TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME.
00:02:04 EACH SPEAKER WILL BE ALLOWED TWO MINUTES.
00:02:06 ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON
00:02:09 THIS MATTER? THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS ON THIS
00:02:13 MATTER. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
00:02:14 PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOW CLOSED. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO
00:02:18 MOVE JANETTE HOWARD FORWARD AND REMOVE A MAN TO REMOVE
00:02:21 REJECTING AND REPLACE WITH APPROVE AND MOVE FORWARD TO THE
00:02:25 FULL BOARD. >> YES THE MOTION IS TO AMEND
00:02:29 TO MAKE THE RECOMMENDATION TO APPROVE AND RECOMMEND AS
00:02:36 AMENDED. ON THAT MOTION VICE CHAIR
00:02:40 CHERYL I KNOW I REMEMBER AMENDMENT.
00:02:41 ALL RIGHT MADAM AND I CHAIR WALKED IN I WALKED IN I THAT
00:02:44 MOTION PASSES WITHOUT OBJECTION.
00:02:47 >> THANK YOU. MOTION CARRIES.
00:02:50 MR. CLERK, PLEASE CALL ITEM NUMBER TWO.
00:02:52 >> YES. ITEM NUMBER TWO IS A ORDINANCE
00:02:55 AMENDING THE ADMINISTRATIVE CODE TO CREATE THE DOWNTOWN
00:02:56 HOSPITALITY ZONE IN THE AREA BOUNDED BY FIFTH STREET FROM
00:03:00 FOLSOM STREET TO MARKET CENTRAL MAY 9TH STREET FROM MARKET
00:03:06 STREET TO EDDY STREET EDDY STREET FROM REAL MAGNIN STREET
00:03:10 TO MASON STREET MASON STREET FROM EDDY STREET TO ELLIS
00:03:14 STREET ELM STREET FROM MASON STREET.
00:03:17 TAYLOR STREET. TAYLOR STREET FROM ELLIS STREET
00:03:18 TO POST STREET POLK STREET FROM TAYLOR STREET TO MASON STREET
00:03:24 MASON STREET FROM POST STREET TO POST STREET WEST STREET FROM
00:03:28 MASON STREET TO KEARNY STREET KEARNY STREET FROM BUSH STREET
00:03:30 TO MARKET STREET MARKET STREET FROM THIRD STREET TO SECOND
00:03:35 STREET SECOND STREET FROM MARKET STREET TO FOLSOM STREET
00:03:39 AND FOLSOM STREET FROM SECOND STREET TO FIFTH STREET
00:03:40 AND AFFIRMING THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT'S DETERMINATION
00:03:43 UNDER THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT,
00:03:47 THERE IS A REQUEST THAT THIS MATTER BE SENT OUT AS A
00:03:48 COMMITTEE REPORT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. CLERK
00:03:50 AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE A PRESENTATION FROM BEN VAN
00:03:54 HOUTEN ALREADY. >> HE IS DIRECTOR OF NIGHTLIFE
00:03:58 INITIATIVES. THANK YOU.
00:03:59 THANK YOU. CHAIR WALTON VICE CHAIR CHERYL
00:04:02 MEMBER AMENDMENT GOOD MORNING BEN VAN HELEN FROM MAUI.
00:04:03 I HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION. I APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION
00:04:12 OF THIS ITEM TODAY. HERE WE GO FULL SCREEN
00:04:16 WONDERFUL. >> THIS IS AN ORDINANCE
00:04:20 SPONSORED BY MAYOR LURIE TO IMPLEMENT SB 395 WHICH IS STATE
00:04:24 LEGISLATION THAT WAS ADOPTED LAST YEAR TO SUPPORT THE
00:04:28 CREATION OF NEW RESTAURANTS IN THE DOWNTOWN HOSPITALITY
00:04:31 ZONE AND WE ARE REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO THIS ORDINANCE
00:04:32 TODAY THAT'S BEEN CIRCULATED AND THAT I WILL DISCUSS LATER
00:04:35 IN THIS PRESENTATION. >> A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND
00:04:39 ON CALIFORNIA LIQUOR LICENSE LAW STATEWIDE THE NUMBER OF
00:04:42 FULL LIQUOR LICENSES AVAILABLE IN EACH COUNTY IS DICTATED
00:04:46 UNDER A POPULATION BASED FORMULA.
00:04:50 IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR ABOUT 80 YEARS AND SAN FRANCISCO HAS
00:04:53 EXCEEDED THAT LIMIT SINCE THAT TIME.
00:04:54 AS A RESULT, FULL LIQUOR LICENSES FOR RESTAURANTS
00:04:57 AND BARS IN SAN FRANCISCO ARE ONLY AVAILABLE ON THE SECONDARY
00:05:00 MARKET AT PRICES WELL BEYOND THE ABC APPLICATION FEE THAT
00:05:05 THAT PRICE FLUCTUATES QUITE A BIT BUT STILL REMAINS WELL
00:05:09 BEYOND THE APPLICATION FEE EVEN AT ITS LOW MARKS.
00:05:13 >> THESE PRICES CAN BE A SIGNIFICANT BARRIER FOR
00:05:16 OPERATORS WITHOUT SUBSTANTIAL FINANCIAL BACKING AS WELL AS
00:05:18 THOSE SEEKING TO OPEN BUSINESSES AND SPACES THAT
00:05:20 REQUIRE SUBSTANTIAL TENANT IMPROVEMENTS.
00:05:24 NIGHTLIFE IS CRITICAL TO DOWNTOWN'S CONTINUED
00:05:27 REVITALIZATION. NEW RESTAURANTS ALONGSIDE
00:05:29 DOWNTOWN'S GREAT EXISTING NIGHTLIFE CAN ATTRACT TOURISTS
00:05:32 AND LOCALS DIVERSIFY OFFERINGS AND HELP TRANSFORM THE AREA
00:05:36 INTO A VIBRANT 24 SEVEN NEIGHBORHOOD.
00:05:39 AND THERE HAVE BEEN A SUITE OF PROGRAMS AND POLICIES LAUNCHED
00:05:42 IN THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS TO SUPPORT BUSINESS ATTRACTION
00:05:43 DOWNTOWN. LAST YEAR THE MAYOR SPONSORED
00:05:49 SB 395 AUTHORED BY SENATOR WEINER TO ENABLE SAN FRANCISCO
00:05:51 TO ESTABLISH A HOSPITALITY ZONE WITHIN THAT ZONE.
00:05:54 THE DEPARTMENT OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CONTROL WOULD BE
00:05:58 AUTHORIZED TO ISSUE UP TO 20 NEW NONTRANSFERABLE RESTAURANT
00:06:01 LIQUOR LICENSES. LICENSES WOULD BE ISSUED
00:06:04 IN PHASES OVER A THREE YEAR PERIOD WITH TEN AVAILABLE THE
00:06:07 FIRST YEAR AND FIVE EACH SUBSEQUENT YEAR.
00:06:10 LICENSES WOULD BE ISSUED THROUGH ABC'S ANNUAL LICENSE
00:06:15 DRAWING PROCESS THAT IS USED TO ISSUE NEW LICENSES STATEWIDE
00:06:18 LICENSES WOULD BE AVAILABLE AT THE ABC'S APPLICATION FEE OF
00:06:23 AROUND $20,000 COMPARED TO THE SECONDARY MARKET PRICES WHICH
00:06:26 CURRENTLY ARE HOVERING IN THE 100 TO $150,000 RANGE.
00:06:32 >> LICENSES WOULD NOT BE TRANSFERABLE TO ANY OTHER
00:06:33 PERSON OR TO ANY LOCATION OUTSIDE THE HOSPITALITY ZONE
00:06:36 DURING THE DURATION OF THIS PROGRAM UPON THE CLOSURE OF A
00:06:40 BUSINESS WITH A HOSPITALITY ZONE LICENSE THAT LICENSE WILL
00:06:41 BE CANCELED. ABC WOULD BE AUTHORIZED TO
00:06:44 ISSUE A NEW HOSPITALITY ZONE LICENSE BUT THE ENTIRE THING
00:06:48 WOULD SUNSET IN 2033. AFTER THAT POINT A BUSINESS
00:06:51 WITH ONE OF THESE LICENSES CLOSES THAT LICENSE IS CANCELED
00:06:52 AND IT'S GONE. >> THIS ORDINANCE FULFILLS THE
00:06:55 REQUIREMENTS OF SB 395 TO ENABLE ABC TO ISSUE NEW
00:06:59 LICENSES BEGINNING LATER THIS YEAR.
00:07:02 THE ORDINANCE WOULD DESIGNATE A HOSPITALITY ZONE WITH THE
00:07:04 BOUNDARIES THAT ARE REFERENCED IN THE TITLE TO REFLECT THE
00:07:07 BOUNDARIES OF THE PD HOSPITALITY ZONE ESTABLISHED
00:07:10 LAST YEAR AS INTRODUCED, THE ORDINANCE WOULD AUTHORIZE THE
00:07:14 ISSUANCE OF UP TO THOSE FULL 20 LICENSES BUT WE ARE REQUESTING
00:07:17 AN AMENDMENT THERE. HERE'S A VISUALIZATION OF THE
00:07:20 BOUNDARIES OF THE ZONE FOLLOWING DISCUSSION WITH
00:07:24 EXISTING DOWNTOWN OPERATORS CONCERNED ABOUT POTENTIAL
00:07:29 IMPACTS, WE ARE PROPOSING TO AMEND THIS LEGISLATION TO
00:07:32 AUTHORIZE THE ISSUANCE OF UP TO 15 LICENSES INSTEAD OF THE
00:07:35 MAXIMUM 20 WITH OUR INTENTION BEING TO MONITOR IMPACTS THIS
00:07:39 PROGRAM OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS BEFORE CONTEMPLATING RETURNING
00:07:42 TO THE BOARD WITH LEGISLATION TO AUTHORIZE THE ISSUANCE OF
00:07:44 THE REMAINING FIVE LICENSES. THERE'S ALSO ONE MINOR CLERICAL
00:07:47 AMENDMENT FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY IN THIS IN THE
00:07:50 REQUESTED AMENDMENT AS WELL. I'M HAPPY TO READ THAT LANGUAGE
00:07:53 WHENEVER APPROPRIATE AND THAT IS THE CONCLUSION OF MY
00:07:58 PRESENTATION. THANK YOU.
00:07:59 HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
00:08:02 I DO HAVE ONE INITIAL QUESTION JUST I KNOW FOR MY OFFICE AND I
00:08:08 KNOW FOR SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES THERE WASN'T A FULL BRIEFING ON
00:08:12 THIS POLICY. >> I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW WHY THAT
00:08:17 OUTREACH WASN'T DONE. >> I APOLOGIZE.
00:08:20 CHAIR WALTON, WE REACHED OUT TO ALL OF YOUR STAFFS LAST WEEK
00:08:25 WITH THE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A BRIEFING.
00:08:28 BUT I'M SORRY THAT THAT DIDN'T THAT DIDN'T GET TO YOU
00:08:32 AND APPRECIATE THE CONSIDERATION OF THIS ITEM
00:08:33 ANYWAY AND BECAUSE YOU JUST SAID IT ON RECORD YOU REACHED
00:08:39 OUT LAST WEEK THAT MEANS WE HAVE WOULD HAVE HAD NO TIME TO
00:08:43 UNDERSTAND THE POLICY UNDERSTAND UNINTENDED
00:08:46 CONSEQUENCES, UNDERSTAND HOW THIS MAY AFFECT OTHER
00:08:48 BUSINESSES AND YOU KNOW WHY I BRING THIS UP BECAUSE YOU KNOW
00:08:51 THAT THERE ARE CONCERNS FROM SMALL BUSINESSES IN THE
00:08:54 COMMUNITY AND IN THE AREA BUT FOR FUTURE AND THIS IS FOR
00:08:58 EVERYBODY, NOT YOU PLEASE DON'T REACH OUT TO MY OFFICE THE WEEK
00:09:02 OF OR A WEEK BEFORE AND THINK THAT THAT IS ENOUGH TIME TO
00:09:05 GIVE A BRIEFING AND THIS IS NOT PERSONAL FOR YOU, BEN, BUT THIS
00:09:09 IS SOMETHING THAT I HOPE NOBODY EVER MAKES THE MISTAKE OF DOING
00:09:13 . >> I APPRECIATE YOUR WANT
00:09:14 AND THANK YOU SUPERVISOR CHERYL YEAH, DITTO WHAT CHAIR WALTON
00:09:21 SAID THEY'RE GOING TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS THAT ARE PRETTY BASIC
00:09:24 AND DUMB BECAUSE I DIDN'T GET THE BRIEFING.
00:09:26 ALSO MY ASSUMPTION HERE IS THAT THE IDEA BEHIND THIS IS TO
00:09:36 BASICALLY CREATE AN AREA WHERE AS PEOPLE WALK UP AND DOWN THE
00:09:41 STREET THERE ARE A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT PLACES TO GO AND HAVE
00:09:42 A NICE TIME. >> YES, I THINK THAT'S CORRECT.
00:09:45 YOU KNOW, IN IN DISCUSSING THIS WITH FOLKS IN UNION SQUARE OVER
00:09:49 THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, I THINK THAT THERE IS IDENTIFIED
00:09:53 AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE ADDITIONAL RESTAURANT GROWTH
00:09:56 IN THE UNION SQUARE AREA AND THAT AMONG THE SUITE OF
00:09:59 INCENTIVES TOOL STRATEGIES THAT THIS WOULD BE ONE STRATEGY TO
00:10:03 COMPLEMENT THE REST OF THEM TO TO ENCOURAGE NEW FULL SERVICE
00:10:07 RESTAURANT DEVELOPMENT THERE HOW MANY SPACES IN THE GIVEN
00:10:09 AREA COULD POSSIBLY HOUSE EITHER A NEW RESTAURANT OR BAR
00:10:17 OR SOMETHING THAT WOULD TAKE ONE OF THESE POTENTIALLY 15
00:10:18 LICENSES ACROSS THE ENTIRE HOSPITALITY ZONE?
00:10:27 >> I'D BE HAPPY TO GET BACK TO YOU WITH A SPECIFIC NUMBER OF
00:10:29 RETAIL SPACES I MEAN I THINK CERTAINLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE
00:10:32 WE'RE CONFIDENT AND THEY'RE OUR PARTNERS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS
00:10:36 ARE CONFIDENT THAT THERE IS DEMAND FOR THESE LICENSES, YOU
00:10:39 KNOW, AND THAT THERE'S THAT WIDE RANGE OF OF VACANT RETAIL
00:10:43 SPACES THAT THAT EITHER HAVE BEEN RESTAURANTS OR COULD BE
00:10:47 RESTAURANTS IN THE FUTURE. >> IT WOULD BE GREAT TO
00:10:50 UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE BECAUSE RIGHT NOW IT FEELS
00:10:53 LIKE TEN, 15, 20 IS A BIT OF A FINGER IN THE AIR AND I DO
00:10:57 THINK WE KNOW HOW MANY SPACES ARE POTENTIALLY THERE IN TERMS
00:11:03 OF BUSINESS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NOW.
00:11:04 >> DO WE HAVE ENOUGH CUSTOMERS ?
00:11:07 YOU KNOW, I THINK WE HAVE HEARD FROM UH INCLUDING THE DOWNTOWN
00:11:11 OPERATORS WHO ARE HERE AND OTHER DOWNTOWN OPERATORS
00:11:14 THAT THE THE CHALLENGE IS, YOU KNOW, GETTING ATTRACTING MORE
00:11:18 CUSTOMERS RIGHT THAT THAT BUSINESS AND I WANT TO
00:11:19 ACKNOWLEDGE THAT YOU KNOW HEARING FROM THEM AND OTHERS
00:11:22 THAT THE BUSINESS HAS BEEN INCREDIBLY CHALLENGING SINCE
00:11:25 THE PANDEMIC. AND YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT
00:11:29 IN TERMS OF BUSINESS ASSISTANCE FOR THIS SECTOR, WE WANT TO
00:11:33 HAVE STRATEGIES TO ATTRACT NEW OPERATORS AND STRATEGIES TO
00:11:34 SUPPORT EXISTING OPERATORS AND BOTH OF THEM COMPLEMENT
00:11:38 EACH OTHER. >> YEAH, NO THAT'S DEFINITELY
00:11:41 TRUE. HAVING FEWER EMPTY STOREFRONTS
00:11:41 IS GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE ALREADY THERE, NO QUESTION.
00:11:45 >> WHAT WAS THE ARGUMENTS BETWEEN 20 1015 HOW DID HOW WAS
00:11:49 OUR THOSE CONVERSATIONS HAD WHAT WAS THE FLOW OF THOSE
00:11:56 CONVERSATIONS? HOW DID WE GET TO 15?
00:11:59 >> YEAH UM I KNOW THAT THE YOU KNOW IN TALKING WITH EXISTING
00:12:03 OPERATORS THEY HAD REQUESTED TEN IN IN TERMS OF
00:12:06 CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD WITH WITH DOWNTOWN STAKEHOLDERS
00:12:09 WHO HAVE FELT CONFIDENT THAT THE FULL AREA CAN ABSORB ALL 20
00:12:13 THAT 15 FELT LIKE A AND APPROPRIATE COMPROMISE THAT
00:12:18 YOU KNOW PROVIDES SOME SOME CLARITY THAT THIS PROGRAM IS IS
00:12:21 ROLLING OUT OVER THE NEXT TWO YEARS BUT ALSO YOU KNOW ENSURES
00:12:29 THAT THERE'S A MOMENT OF REFLECTION AND A MOMENT TO LOOK
00:12:30 BACK BEFORE WE ARE ABLE TO PURSUE THE THE FULL 20 SO THAT
00:12:34 THAT'S THE AND I THINK IT'S FAIR THAT THAT'S THE LOGIC OF
00:12:37 REACHING 15. >> WHAT'S THE PRICE OF THESE
00:12:40 NEW LICENSES ARE GOING TO BE THAT'S JUST UNDER $20,000 IS
00:12:43 THE APPLICATION FEE FOR ABC IS THE APPLICATION FEE AND THE
00:12:47 EXISTING BUSINESSES THERE. WHAT HAVE THEY BEEN PAYING FOR
00:12:51 THESE LICENSES IN THE PAST? >> YEAH I MEAN IT IT IT RANGES
00:12:53 BUT I THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY YOU KNOW EVERYTHING FROM 100 TO
00:12:57 200,000 PLUS THE IDEA OF THE NON TRANSFERABILITY OF THESE
00:13:01 LICENSES IS INTENDED TO TO HONOR THAT THAT YOU KNOW THAT
00:13:05 THAT IT IS NOT AN ASSET TO BE SOLD AT A PRICE EXCEEDING THAT
00:13:09 APPLICATION FEE IN ORDER TO THAT YOU KNOW IT'S A IT'S IT'S
00:13:13 NOT THE SAME LICENSE AS ONE OF THESE EXISTING LICENSES THAT AN
00:13:17 OPERATOR HAS BOUGHT ON THE SECONDARY MARKET THAT HAS MORE
00:13:21 PRIVILEGES THAT THAT THAT CAN BE TRANSFERRED ANYWHERE AT ANY
00:13:24 TIME. >> SURE BUT THAT SEEMS LIKE A
00:13:25 NICE UPSIDE BENEFIT. THAT'S NOT THE REASON THAT
00:13:28 PEOPLE PURCHASE THESE LICENSES. USUALLY THEY PURCHASE THE
00:13:30 LICENSES TO DO BUSINESS RIGHT. >> I DO THINK THAT'S I THINK
00:13:33 THAT'S TRUE. I ALSO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW,
00:13:36 WHEN PEOPLE ARE GOING OUT OF BUSINESS THAT THE ABILITY TO
00:13:40 SELL THAT LICENSE IS YOU KNOW THAT'S OFTEN THE ONLY ONLY
00:13:44 ASSET OF VALUE IS STILL THESE THESE NEW LICENSES SEEM LIKE A
00:13:47 PRETTY GOOD DEAL LIKE REALLY GOOD DEAL.
00:13:51 I HAVE SOME TECHNICAL QUESTIONS ON THIS.
00:13:55 I'M TOLD THAT THIS ORDINANCE NEEDS TO BE APPROVED BY JULY
00:14:01 FIRST ACCORDING TO STATE LAW THIS MIGHT BE BETTER FOR THIS
00:14:06 CITY ATTORNEY BUT DOES THAT MEAN IT NEEDS TO BE ADOPTED BY
00:14:10 THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND SIGNED BY THE MAYOR OR DOES
00:14:13 IT NEED TO BE SIGNED BY THE MAYOR UNDER THE LIKE WHAT THE
00:14:17 CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME EXACTLY WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN BY JULY
00:14:22 1ST FOR THIS DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY BRAD I HAVEN'T HAD A
00:14:27 CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE STATE LEGISLATION TO TELL YOU THAT I
00:14:31 DON'T KNOW IF THE DEPARTMENT KNOWS ONE WAY OR THE OTHER BUT
00:14:34 THIS IS LOOK AT IT NOW. >> YEAH.
00:14:37 SO SB 395 I'D BE HAPPY TO PULL UP THE THE THE EXACT LANGUAGE
00:14:41 BUT THE THE LANGUAGE DOES STATE THAT AN ORDINANCE THAT THE THAT
00:14:45 THE LOCAL GOVERNING BODY THAT BOARD OF SUPERVISORS HAS TO
00:14:49 ADOPT AN ORDINANCE AND THAT THAT ORDINANCE AND THAT FOR
00:14:52 STATE PURPOSES THAT ORDINANCE TAKES EFFECT THE FOLLOWING JULY
00:14:56 1ST AND I THINK THERE IS SOME AMBIGUITY IN THERE AS TO
00:15:00 WHETHER AS TO WHAT STEPS THE BOARD NEEDS TO TAKE OR THE
00:15:03 LOCAL GOVERNING BODY NEEDS TO TAKE IN ORDER TO TAKE EFFECT
00:15:07 IN ORDER FOR FOR IT TO HIT THAT JULY 1ST MILESTONE.
00:15:14 SO THERE'S AMBIGUITY AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE NEED TO ACT
00:15:17 TODAY TO GET THERE IN TIME. >> I THINK SO WE HAVE YOU KNOW,
00:15:21 WE'VE BEEN IN DISCUSSION WITH ABC ABOUT THIS ABOUT THIS
00:15:25 TIMING ISSUE THIS MORNING. WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANYTHING
00:15:28 IN WRITING. I THINK WE ARE OPTIMISTIC THAT
00:15:33 WE COULD CONTINUE WORKING ON THIS AND STILL MOVE FORWARD.
00:15:34 BUT IN TERMS OF CLEANLY HITTING ALL THE MILESTONES TO BRING
00:15:37 CLARITY TO IT TODAY WE WOULD I THINK WE ARE TO THE EXTENT THAT
00:15:44 WE WANT TO CONTINUE DISCUSSION IN THE FUTURE AND CONTINUE
00:15:47 DISCUSSION OVER THE NEXT WEEK I THINK I FEEL LIKE WE WOULD BE
00:15:51 CONFIDENT HAVING MORE DISCUSSION WITH STAKEHOLDERS WE
00:15:52 WOULD REQUEST THAT THE IF THE COMMITTEE IS AMENABLE TO IT
00:15:59 DUPLICATING THE FILE, CONTINUING TO MOVE THIS FORWARD
00:16:00 AND THEN ALSO IN PARALLEL WORKING IN VERY REAL TIME TO
00:16:03 GET CONTINUED CLARITY FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY AND CONTINUE TO
00:16:06 WORK ON THE SUBSTANCE OF THIS ITEM WITH THE IMPACTED
00:16:08 STAKEHOLDERS. I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY MY
00:16:10 PREFERRED ROUTE. I DON'T WANT TO SCREW ANYTHING
00:16:13 UP HERE BUT I'M I JUST FEEL LIKE I NEED MORE INFORMATION TO
00:16:18 FEEL CLEARER ON IT. I DO UNDERSTAND THE NEED.
00:16:21 LOOK, WE'VE GOT TO GET DOWNTOWN BACK UP AND RUNNING RIGHT BIKE
00:16:24 AND THE IDEA OF HAVING A FULLY FUNCTIONAL DOWNTOWN IS GOOD.
00:16:28 >> I LIKE THE IDEA THAT YOU GUYS ARE WORKING ON THESE
00:16:29 THINGS. I DON'T WANT TO MAKE A MISTAKE
00:16:33 JUST TO BE INTRANSIGENT. I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT
00:16:34 IDEA BUT THAT SEEMS LIKE AN OKAY PLAN.
00:16:36 I'M GOING TO STOP TALKING NOW BUT JOEL AND THANK YOU FOR THE
00:16:40 OPPORTUNITY. THANK YOU.
00:16:41 VICE CHAIR CHERYL PRESIDENT MENEM THANK YOU, CHAIR WALTON I
00:16:47 DON'T LOVE BEING IN THIS POSITION.
00:16:50 IT FEELS A LITTLE BIT LIKE WE'RE BEING JAMMED.
00:16:51 WE HAVEN'T HAD REALLY AN OPPORTUNITY TO WRAP OUR BRAINS
00:16:57 AROUND THE LEGISLATION IN THE FIRST PLACE AND IT APPEARS IS
00:17:04 THAT WE THAT AT LEAST FROM THE STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE WE'RE
00:17:05 AGAINST A DEADLINE IF WE DON'T ACT TODAY, YOU KNOW,
00:17:08 POTENTIALLY WE LOSE THIS OPPORTUNITY FOR A YEAR.
00:17:11 >> SO THAT TO ME IS FRUSTRATING .
00:17:18 >> I ALSO THINK IT'S REASONABLE NOT TO JAM THE CITY ATTORNEY
00:17:22 AND IT'S UNREASONABLE FOR HIM TO BE EXPECTED TO GIVE US A
00:17:23 DEFINITIVE ANSWER RIGHT NOW ON THIS UM, I GUESS I'M INCLINED
00:17:30 TO AGREE WITH WHAT I TAKE. >> SUPERVISOR CHERYL TO BE
00:17:36 SUGGESTING WHICH IS THAT WE DUPLICATE THIS FILE, FORWARD IT
00:17:40 TO THE FULL BOARD TOMORROW. BY THEN WE SHOULD FOR ACTION
00:17:44 TOMORROW WE SHOULD KNOW BY THEN WHETHER WE HAVE TO ACT TOMORROW
00:17:48 OR NOT AND IF WE DO NOT THEN WE CONTINUE IT THERE AND DON'T ACT
00:17:52 ON IT AT THE FULL BOARD TOMORROW AND THEN WE HAVE A
00:17:55 FILE AT THE FULL BOARD AND A FILE HERE AND IF WE NEED TO
00:17:59 MAKE FURTHER CHANGES WE CAN DO THAT.
00:18:02 I DON'T KNOW. I'M OPEN TO HEARING FROM THE
00:18:07 CHAIR OPEN HEARING FROM PUBLIC COMMENT BUT THAT SEEMS LIKE AN
00:18:10 ADEQUATE PATH FORWARD GIVEN THE NOT GREAT SITUATION.
00:18:15 >> THANK YOU PRESENT AMENDMENT JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY WHY DO WE
00:18:19 WAIT TILL WHY DO WE WAIT SO LATE TO BRING THIS FORWARD?
00:18:23 >> IT'S A IT'S IT'S IT'S REGRETTABLE.
00:18:26 ABSOLUTELY. YOU KNOW WE HAVE BEEN
00:18:29 DISCUSSING WITH UM OUR STAKEHOLDERS WITH THE EXISTING
00:18:33 DOWNTOWN OPERA I FEEL LIKE YOU KNOW, WE HAD SOME INITIAL
00:18:37 EMAILS BACK AND BACK AND FORTH IN DECEMBER AND WE'VE BEEN YOU
00:18:43 KNOW, TRYING OVER THE LAST SEVERAL MONTHS AND A GOOD FAITH
00:18:47 EFFORT TO TO REALLY GET A FULL SENSE OF THEIR CONCERNS AND I
00:18:51 ALSO APPRECIATE THAT THEY'RE BUSY, ACTIVE, IMPORTANT YOU
00:18:55 KNOW THE BUSINESS THAT THEY'RE DOING IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE
00:18:59 CITY AND TO THE TO THE SECTOR. SO I HAVE A LOT OF APPRECIATION
00:19:03 FOR THAT. YOU KNOW, ULTIMATELY I THINK WE
00:19:07 HAD HOPED TO HAVE THE TWO TO HAVE A FULL SENSE OF
00:19:11 STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK BEFORE WE EVEN INTRODUCED THIS ITEM WHICH
00:19:16 IS WHAT I THINK CONTRIBUTED TO THE DELAY TO INTRODUCING IT
00:19:20 IN MARCH AND THEN TRIED TO MOVE IT FORWARD AS QUICKLY AS
00:19:23 POSSIBLE TO ALLOW TIME. WE WERE WE'VE BEEN
00:19:27 IN CONVERSATION THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS SO I THINK IT'S
00:19:32 YOU KNOW I, I THINK THAT THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION BETWEEN
00:19:36 MYSELF EXISTING OPERATORS THE SUPERVISOR SAUNDERS OFFICE
00:19:44 SUPERVISOR DORSEY'S OFFICE ABOUT THE ON THE GROUND IMPACTS
00:19:48 BUT BUT YOU KNOW UNFORTUNATELY THE TIMING UH JUST ENDED UP AT
00:19:52 THE ENDED UP IN THIS PLACE WHICH IS YOU KNOW, UH LESS THAN
00:19:59 IDEAL AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. >> I DEFINITELY KNOW
00:20:03 AND UNDERSTAND THAT STAKEHOLDER FEEDBACK AND STAKEHOLDER
00:20:04 AGREEMENT ARE DEFINITELY TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
00:20:08 SO IT SEEMS LIKE THAT MAYBE TALKING TO SOME OF MY
00:20:11 COLLEAGUES AND INCLUDING THEM IN THE CONVERSATIONS WITH
00:20:15 STAKEHOLDERS DURING THIS PROCESS WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE
00:20:19 MIGHT HAVE MIGHT HAVE LED TO SOME MORE PRODUCTIVE OUTCOMES
00:20:23 IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE BEING PRESENTED WITH TODAY, I
00:20:27 DEFINITELY WOULD NOT FEEL COMFORTABLE SUPPORTING THIS
00:20:31 TODAY WITHOUT THE CITY ATTORNEY EVEN HAVING ENOUGH INFORMATION
00:20:38 TO GIVE US THE RIGHT INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO
00:20:39 MAKE A DECISION. I AGREE WITH CONTINUING THIS
00:20:43 ITEM. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE NEED TO
00:20:45 DUPLICATE THE FILE BECAUSE I, I DON'T THINK THE TIMELINE IS
00:20:49 THAT RESTRICTIVE ON US TO WHERE WE COULDN'T CONTINUE THIS NEXT
00:20:53 WEEK TO NEXT WEEK. I DON'T WANT TO VOTE ON THIS OR
00:20:54 SEND THIS FORWARD TO THE FULL BOARD IN ANY FORM UNTIL WE HEAR
00:20:58 FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY. BUT I KNOW WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME
00:21:01 TO COME BACK AND WEIGH IN ON THIS MOVING FORWARD.
00:21:08 >> VICE FISHER I, I BASICALLY AGREE WITH YOUR SENTIMENT.
00:21:11 I WAS A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT THE TIMING ELEMENTS WHICH IS
00:21:15 WHY I WAS SUGGESTING DUPLICATING THE FILE SO WE
00:21:19 DON'T TOTALLY SQUARE SELVES OVER FOR LACK OF A MORE NUANCED
00:21:23 TERM. I DO THINK DOWNTOWN IS A REAL
00:21:26 BOTH SORE SPOT AND OPPORTUNITY SPOT FOR THE CITY SO I DON'T
00:21:31 WANT TO LOSE THE CHANCE TO JUST WAIT A YEAR.
00:21:34 THAT SAID, I, I SHARE YOUR CONCERNS ON IT.
00:21:38 I HAVE NO INTEREST IN MOVING FORWARD WITH THE FULL BOARD IF
00:21:42 WE RECEIVE INFORMATION BACK DO WE HAVE TIME TO ACT?
00:21:45 I THINK DESPITE MY LET'S CALL IT STRONG ANNOYANCE AT THE
00:21:52 SITUATION WE FIND OURSELVES IN, I WOULD PROBABLY RATHER HAVE
00:21:56 SOMETHING RATHER THAN NOTHING IF IT TURNS OUT WE ARE IN THIS
00:22:01 BIND WHICH IS MY I WHICH IS WHY I WOULD PUSH TO DUPLICATE THE
00:22:05 FILE BUT I THINK I BASICALLY FUNDAMENTALLY AGREE WITH YOUR
00:22:09 SENTIMENTS. I REALLY DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO
00:22:13 BE VOTING ON THIS AT THE FULL BOARD.
00:22:14 I'D RATHER BE VOTING ON SOMETHING ELSE.
00:22:15 I'D RATHER UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATIONS FULLY BUT AT THE
00:22:17 END OF THE DAY I THINK WAITING A YEAR IF FOR SOME REASON WE
00:22:20 HAVE BEEN PUT IN THIS WEIRD BIND AND BACKED UP AGAINST THE
00:22:24 WALL WHICH FRANKLY I'M KIND OF I'M NOT SUPPOSED TO SAY ON THE
00:22:27 RECORD RIGHT? >> SO YEAH MISS DEPUTY CITY
00:22:34 ATTORNEY RUSTY IF WE CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO NEXT WEEK WITHOUT
00:22:38 DUPLICATING THE FILE DO WE HAVE ENOUGH TIME TO TO BE ABLE TO
00:22:42 MOVE THIS FORWARD? >> DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY BRAD
00:22:48 ROSSI I THINK BECAUSE THE BOARD IS ON RECESS THE 26TH DUE TO
00:22:53 MEMORIAL DAY THAT IF IT'S REQUIRED THAT THE ORDINANCE
00:22:57 BECOME EFFECTIVE BY JULY 1ST THEN THERE REALLY ISN'T TIME
00:23:01 BECAUSE THE SECOND MEETING WILL BE THE 2ND OF JUNE AND THEN THE
00:23:04 MAYOR HAS TO SIGN AND IT'S NOT EFFECTIVE UNTIL 30 DAYS I WAS
00:23:08 READING THE LEGISLATION IT IS KIND OF UNCLEAR WHAT IT MEANS
00:23:11 IN TERMS OF WHEN IT NEEDS TO BE EFFECTIVE.
00:23:15 SO I WOULD LIKE TIME TO DISCUSS THAT WITH THE ATTORNEY WHO
00:23:16 DRAFTED THIS TO DETERMINE WHETHER WHAT EXACTLY THE BILL
00:23:19 MEANT BY THAT. >> OKAY.
00:23:22 I DEFINITELY THINK I'M INCLINED TO AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUES BUT
00:23:26 THIS IS NOT A POSITION THAT WE EVER WANT TO BE IN.
00:23:30 >> I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS OR STATEMENTS RIGHT
00:23:34 NOW SO CAN WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT?
00:23:38 >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YES.
00:23:39 MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THE SIGNAGE LINE UP
00:23:42 TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME EACH SPEAKER BE ALLOWED TWO MINUTES
00:23:47 . >> GOOD MORNING SUPERVISORS.
00:23:52 HOPE YOU'RE DOING WELL. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME
00:23:53 AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR REFLECTION ON THIS REALLY
00:23:55 IMPORTANT MATTER AND I YEAH I JUST APPRECIATE THAT.
00:23:59 >> SO MR. RODRIGUEZ CEO THE UNION SQUARE ALLIANCE WE TO
00:24:03 ANSWER SOME OF YOUR QUESTIONS. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS
00:24:06 SOLUTION FOR QUITE SOME TIME ACTUALLY THIS PREDATES THIS
00:24:10 CURRENT ADMINISTRATION. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WAS BORN OF
00:24:11 THE PANDEMIC IN A TIME WHEN WE WERE REALLY LOOKING
00:24:15 IN REFLECTING ON OUR COMMUNITY AND HOW IT HAD BEEN NEGATIVELY
00:24:18 IMPACTED. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF EXISTING
00:24:21 BUSINESSES WITH LIQUOR LICENSE TO YOUR POINT SUPERVISOR CHERYL
00:24:23 WITH REGARD TO HOW IT MIGHT IMPACT COMMUNITY IN THE UNION
00:24:27 SQUARE COMMUNITY SPECIFICALLY AND THAT IS WHERE WHO I AM
00:24:31 SPEAKING TO ALTHOUGH THIS DOES SUPPORT THE HOSPITALITY ZONE
00:24:34 IN ITS ENTIRETY WHICH I THINK IS GREAT WE UNDERSTOOD THAT WE
00:24:38 PROBABLY COULD ABSORB 50 BUSINESSES.
00:24:42 WE ARE LOOKING AT IT TO SAY LET'S LET'S ROLL THIS OUT.
00:24:46 LET'S BE THOUGHTFUL AND INTENTIONAL AND AS WE DO
00:24:50 THAT UNDERSTANDING THAT A WORLD CLASS CITY DESERVES A WORLD
00:24:53 CLASS CITY CENTER AND IN ORDER TO PUT OUR BEST FOOT FORWARD
00:24:56 AND TO CONTINUE TO SHOW THE WORLD THAT WE ARE HEALING, WE
00:24:58 CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT THAT WHERE PEOPLE ARE ESSENTIALLY
00:25:01 IN MANY WAYS FORCED TO TO VISIT US WHERE 12,000 HOTEL ROOMS
00:25:08 AND A HOP SKIP AND A JUMP TO THE CONVENTION CENTER ANOTHER
00:25:13 6000. SO REALLY THE FULL FLEET IS
00:25:14 THERE AND WE CAN SOMETIMES GET YOUR ATTENTION FOR ABOUT TWO
00:25:17 DAYS AND YOU GO BACK HOME AND SAY I WANT TO ONE COME
00:25:21 BACK. >> I WANTED TO HAVE MY
00:25:22 CONVENTION HERE. >> I WANT TO THREE, YOU KNOW,
00:25:25 DEMONSTRATE THAT THE CITY HAS RETURNED.
00:25:29 >> SO THE MORE OFFERINGS WE HAVE, THE THOUGHTFUL WAY WE CAN
00:25:32 DO THIS EVERYONE IN OUR COMMUNITY CAN APPLY TO THIS.
00:25:36 THEY CAN KEEP THEIR EXISTING ASSET THAT THEY HAVE WITH AN
00:25:40 EXISTING BUSINESS. BUT I WILL TELL YOU THE GOOD
00:25:41 MAJORITY OF THOSE BUSINESSES THAT ARE STILL OPEN TODAY
00:25:43 PREDATE THE PANDEMIC AND WE REALLY NEED THE FEWEST
00:25:50 BOUNDARIES TO OPENING AS POSSIBLE.
00:25:54 SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THAT
00:25:55 TIME TO EXPRESS THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS LEGISLATION.
00:26:02 GOOD MORNING CHAIR WALTON PRESIDENT MANDOLIN SUPERVISOR.
00:26:06 CHERYL, THANKS FOR TAKING INTO ACCOUNT THE CONCERNS OF US
00:26:13 OPERATORS, THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT HAVE THE MOST TO LOSE WITH
00:26:14 THIS PROPOSAL. OF COURSE WE ALL DO NOT WANT
00:26:18 ANY MORE VACANCIES IN DOWNTOWN BUT WE CONTINUE TO STRUGGLE AS
00:26:21 OPERATORS. THERE'S NOT DEMAND FOR THESE
00:26:24 LICENSES RIGHT NOW THERE ARE 40 LICENSES PARKED AT THE SAN
00:26:28 FRANCISCO ABC TURNED IN BY OPERATORS WHO FILLED WITH THEIR
00:26:32 OWN BUSINESSES. SO WITH 40 FULL LIQUOR LICENSES
00:26:36 SITTING AT THE ABC MOST RECENTLY ONE OF THOSE SOLD AT
00:26:40 $90,000 NOT $150,000. TWO WEEKS AGO THE ABC SENT
00:26:45 NOTICES TO THOSE 40 LICENSE HOLDERS INSTRUCTING THEM THAT
00:26:50 THEY NEEDED TO SELL THOSE LICENSES, DEPLOY THEM
00:26:52 THEMSELVES OR THEY WOULD BE REVOKED.
00:26:55 THAT SHOWS THAT THERE IS NOT DEMAND FOR THESE LICENSES.
00:26:58 THESE LICENSE LICENSES THAT ARE PARKED ARE PROBABLY GOING TO
00:27:00 SEE THEIR VALUE DROP BELOW $50,000 AND EVEN AT A BENT
00:27:06 PRICE OF $20,000 IF SOMEBODY IS LUCKY ENOUGH TO WIN ONE OF
00:27:11 THESE LICENSES, THIS IS NOT A GOOD ENVIRONMENT TO BE OPENING
00:27:12 A BAR IN A RESTAURANT RIGHT NOW WE'RE STRUGGLING WITH INSURANCE
00:27:15 COSTS, LABOR COSTS AND WHILE THE CITY IS ON THE RIGHT TRACK
00:27:18 AND GREAT INITIATIVES HAVE COME OUT OF THE WEEDS
00:27:22 AND PARTICULARLY FROM THIS MAYOR'S OFFICE IN COLLABORATION
00:27:26 WITH YOUR BOARD, THAT'S ALL VERY ENCOURAGING BUT THIS IS
00:27:29 EXISTENTIAL FOR A LOT OF US THAT ARE BARELY HANGING ON.
00:27:33 >> OUR CONVENTION BUSINESS IS COMING BACK BUT THIS YEAR 2026
00:27:35 WE'RE STILL GOING TO BE THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND ROOM NIGHTS
00:27:37 AWAY FROM WHAT WE DID IN 2019. SO THERE'S A OVERSUPPLY OF
00:27:43 LICENSES RIGHT NOW AND WE NEED TO BE CAREFUL ON WHERE WE PLACE
00:27:44 THESE LICENSES. SO I REALLY WOULD REQUEST A
00:27:48 CONTINUANCE FOR AT LEAST A WEEK SO THAT WE CAN HELP SPECIFY
00:27:51 WHERE THESE POTENTIAL LICENSES COULD GO.
00:27:54 THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
00:28:05 ARE THERE ANY OTHER MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO LIKE TO MAKE
00:28:07 PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS MATTER? THERE ARE NO OTHER PUBLIC
00:28:09 COMMENTERS ON THIS MATTER. >> THANK YOU SAID NO OTHER
00:28:14 SPEAKERS. PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOW CLOSED.
00:28:16 >> PRESIDENT BENJAMIN THANK YOU CHAIR WALTON.
00:28:23 >> IF WE VOTED THIS OUT WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION TO THE FULL
00:28:27 BOARD TOMORROW AND THEN WE CONSIDERED AN AMENDMENT TO
00:28:31 REDUCE THE NUMBER FURTHER REDUCE THE NUMBER OF LICENSES
00:28:34 WOULD THAT BE A SUBSTANTIVE AMENDMENT AT THE FULL BOARD
00:28:36 THAT WOULD NOT BE A SUBSTANTIVE AMENDMENT.
00:28:41 >> WELL THEN I THINK THERE'S ONLY ONE PATH FOR US WHICH IS
00:28:45 TO UH WELL I KNOW WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE WANT BUT I BUT I, I
00:28:49 THINK, YOU KNOW, WAITING ANOTHER YEAR FOR ANYTHING IS DO
00:28:52 ANYTHING WITH THIS LEGISLATION IS PROBABLY A BAD IDEA
00:28:56 AND RISKING THAT IS ALSO A BAD IDEA I THINK YOU KNOW THE BOARD
00:29:02 THE FULL BOARD MIGHT WANT I MEAN I THINK WE SHOULD VOTE IT
00:29:06 OUT WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE GOING TO
00:29:08 HAVE TO HAVE A FULL CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT'S GOING
00:29:10 ON. AND THERE ARE SOME SUPERVISORS
00:29:11 WHOSE DISTRICTS ARE IMPLICATED BY THIS WHO ARE NOT HERE RIGHT
00:29:14 NOW FOR THIS CONVERSATION. SO BUT IT ALSO STRIKES ME THAT
00:29:20 ,YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S DOZENS OF LICENSES OUT THERE AND THE
00:29:25 PRICES ARE DROPPING, PUTTING MORE LICENSES IN, YOU KNOW, I
00:29:29 CAN CERTAINLY SEE THE INTERESTS OF PEOPLE IN YOU KNOW, NOT
00:29:33 SEEING THAT HAPPEN RIGHT THIS INSTANT AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE
00:29:36 MAYBE THE BOARD WILL WANT TO FURTHER REDUCE THE NUMBER IF
00:29:40 WE'RE ACTING TOMORROW MAYBE IT MAKES SENSE TO DO MORE
00:29:44 CONVERSATION AND CONSULTATION OVER THE NEXT WEEK OR TWO IF
00:29:48 THERE'S SPACE YOU KNOW, TO DO THAT.
00:29:52 SO I GUESS THAT'S I WOULD I THINK WE OUGHT TO PUT THIS TO
00:29:56 THE FULL BOARD WITH THAT RECOMMENDATION AND POTENTIALLY
00:29:58 THINK ABOUT SOME NON SUBSTANTIVE AMENDMENTS TOMORROW
00:29:59 IF THAT'S WHERE WE ARE OTHERWISE AND I DO THINK WE
00:30:02 SHOULD DUPLICATE IT IN CASE WE CAN DEAL WITH IT BECAUSE WE
00:30:06 DON'T HAVE TO TAKE ACTION TOMORROW AND WE CAN KEEP
00:30:07 WORKING ON IT IN THIS COMMITTEE .
00:30:09 >> THANK YOU PRESIDENT AMENDMENT VICE SURE, SURE.
00:30:14 UM I BASICALLY AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID THERE.
00:30:18 I'M HAPPY TO MAKE A MOTION UNLESS CHAIR WALTON YOU'D
00:30:21 PREFER TO SAY ANYTHING FIRST. WELL, YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION BUT
00:30:26 DEFINITELY I'M GOING TO SAY ALL RIGHT, SO GREAT.
00:30:29 >> I THINK I WILL THEN MOVE TO ACCEPT THE AMENDMENTS THAT WERE
00:30:33 REQUESTED BY O D THROUGH MR. MANHATTAN'S PRESENTATION
00:30:40 AND THEN AFTER THAT MOTION I THINK I'LL MOVE TO SEND THIS TO
00:30:44 THE FULL BOARD OF SUPERVISORS WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION AND AS
00:30:47 PRESIDENT GENTLEMAN SAID, I THINK YOU KNOW IF IT MAKES
00:30:51 SENSE TO ME I'M DEFINITELY SUPPORTIVE OF A FULL
00:30:52 CONTINUANCE IF THAT'S IF THAT'S WHERE WE END UP BEING
00:30:58 AND PRESENT. GENTLEMEN, DO YOU THINK
00:30:59 DUPLICATING THE FILE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO SEE?
00:31:02 NO REASON NOT TO UM I MEAN I WOULD I THINK ANYBODY CAN
00:31:07 REQUEST THAT, RIGHT. YEAH.
00:31:08 SO I'D LIKE JUST TO REQUEST THAT THERE'S DUPLICATED FILED
00:31:10 SITS HERE AND UH AND RULES. GREAT.
00:31:14 THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.
00:31:18 SO ON THE MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT, MR. CLERK YES.
00:31:21 AND THE MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT.
00:31:22 VERY SURE. CHERYL.
00:31:25 CHERYL I MEAN ROMANCE. I MEAN I MADAM AND I CHAIR
00:31:28 WALTON I IN I THAT MOTION PASSES WITHOUT OBJECTION THE
00:31:32 MOTION CARRIES AMENDMENT ACCEPTED BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE
00:31:36 ON THE AMENDED ITEM I DO JUST WANT TO SAY THAT THIS IS A
00:31:40 HORRIBLE POSITION TO PUT THIS BOARD IN TO PUT THE COMMUNITY
00:31:47 IN. OBVIOUSLY EVERYONE HERE WANTS
00:31:48 TO SEE DOWNTOWN THRIVE. I DO WANT TO OBVIOUSLY HAVE A
00:31:55 LOT OF FOOT TRAFFIC, HAVE PEOPLE COMING INTO OUR CITY
00:31:56 AND JOIN OUR CITY. I DO NOT HAVE ANY DESIRE TO DO
00:32:02 ANYTHING THAT WILL PUT OTHER BUSINESSES OUT OF BUSINESS HERE
00:32:06 IN SAN FRANCISCO, PARTICULARLY BUSINESSES WHO HAVE STUCK WITH
00:32:09 US PRE-PANDEMIC AND BEING WITH THIS POST-PANDEMIC.
00:32:13 DEFINITELY CONCERNED ABOUT THE HARMONIOUS DOES WITH LICENSES
00:32:17 THAT ARE ALREADY SITTING OUT THERE AND UNDERCUT
00:32:21 AND BASICALLY BUSINESSES THAT ARE OPERATING BY ONLY CHARGING
00:32:25 20 K WHEN THERE ARE OPEN LICENSES THAT IS VERY
00:32:29 CONCERNING FOR ME AND WHAT THAT DOES TO UH OUR BUSINESSES.
00:32:33 >> BUT WITH THAT SAID I THINK WE HAVE A PATH TO WHERE WE CAN
00:32:37 MAKE A DECISION THAT WILL BE BENEFICIAL FOR OUR BUSINESSES.
00:32:44 I DON'T LIKE THAT HAS TO HAPPEN BETWEEN NOW AND TOMORROW.
00:32:48 UM, I DON'T I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW YOU GET RID OF NEGOTIATIONS
00:32:52 OVERNIGHT PARTICULARLY IF WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO COMMON GROUND
00:32:59 WITH THE MONTHS THAT HAVE BEEN ALLOWED PRIOR TO TODAY.
00:33:02 BUT WE ARE IN A TOUGH POSITION SO ON THE MOTION ON THE
00:33:06 AMENDMENT I'M TO MOVE THE AMENDMENT ITEM.
00:33:10 >> WOULD YOU LIKE TO DUPLICATE THE AMENDED VERSION?
00:33:11 YEAH. DUPLICATE FOR SURE.
00:33:14 >> OKAY. DUPLICATE IT AND THEN ON THE
00:33:22 MOTION TO REFER THE MATTER TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AS A
00:33:26 COMMITTEE REPORT WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION ON THAT MOTION
00:33:30 VICE CHAIR CHERYL CHERYL I REMEMBER MANAGEMENT I
00:33:37 MANAGEMENT I CHAIR WALTON ALL RIGHT WALTON I AND THEN ON THE
00:33:41 MOTION I ASSUME TO CONTINUE THE DUPLICATED VERSION TO THE CALL
00:33:48 OF THE CHAIR CORRECT ON THAT MOTION.
00:33:52 VICE CHAIR CHERYL CHERYL I MEMBER MANAGEMENT BY MANAGEMENT
00:33:56 I CHAIR WALTON I BOTH DENY THAT MOTION PASSES WITHOUT
00:34:00 OBJECTION. >> THANK YOU.
00:34:01 MOTION CARRIES. THANK YOU MR. CLERK, FOR THAT
00:34:04 CORRECTION. >> MR. CLERK PLEASE CALL EITHER
00:34:08 NUMBER THREE. >> YES, I DO REMEMBER THREE IS
00:34:15 THE ORDINANCE AMENDING THE ADMINISTRATIVE CODE TO
00:34:17 ESTABLISH THE SAN FRANCISCO HATE CRIME REWARD FUND.
00:34:19 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE
00:34:26 LEGISLATIVE AIDE BRIAN DOLL FROM SUPERVISOR DORSEY'S OFFICE
00:34:30 HERE TO REPORT AND ALSO CONSIDER FROM AS A PD
00:34:34 GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS. >> BRIAN GOOD MORNING CHAIR
00:34:37 WALTON PRESIDENT MANDOLIN MEMBER CHERYL MY NAME IS BRIAN
00:34:40 DOLL LEGISLATIVE AIDE FOR DISTRICT SIX SUPERVISOR MATT
00:34:42 DORSEY. SUPERVISOR DORSEY APOLOGIZES
00:34:45 THAT HE CAN'T BE HERE THIS MORNING BUT HE APPRECIATES THE
00:34:48 COMMITTEE HEARING THIS ITEM OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS SAN
00:34:52 FRANCISCO HAS SEEN A NUMBER OF OF HIGH PROFILE HATE DRIVEN
00:34:56 INCIDENTS. HATE CRIMES ARE UNIQUELY
00:34:57 HARMFUL BECAUSE THEY ARE INTENDED NOT ONLY TO HARM AN
00:35:00 INDIVIDUAL VICTIM BUT TO INSTILL FEAR IN ENTIRE
00:35:04 COMMUNITY. THESE CRIMES CAN RANGE FROM
00:35:07 VANDALISM AND THREATS TO SERIOUS ACTS OF VIOLENCE
00:35:11 AND EVEN HOMICIDES. EVERY SAN FRANCISCAN DESERVES
00:35:15 TO FEEL SAFE AND RESPECTED REGARDLESS OF THEIR RACE,
00:35:16 RELIGION, SEXUAL ORIENTATION, GENDER IDENTITY OR BACKGROUND.
00:35:25 >> SAN FRANCISCO PRIDES ITSELF ON BEING AN INCLUSIVE CITY THAT
00:35:29 CELEBRATES DIVERSITY AND WE SHOULD CONTINUE LEADING BY
00:35:33 EXAMPLE WHEN IT COMES TO CONFRONTING HATE AND SUPPORTING
00:35:36 IMPACTED COMMUNITIES. THIS LEGISLATION WOULD CREATE A
00:35:40 HATE CRIME REWARD FUND TO PROVIDE REWARDS WHEN
00:35:41 INFORMATION LEADS TO THE FILING OF CRIMINAL CHARGES AND HATE
00:35:45 CRIMES. THE PROPOSAL IS MODELED AFTER
00:35:48 THE HOMICIDE REWARD FUND LEGISLATION THAT SUPERVISOR
00:35:52 DORSEY SPONSORED AND THAT THE BOARD UNANIMOUSLY PASSED LAST
00:35:55 YEAR. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE TREAT
00:35:56 THESE INCIDENTS WITH THE SERIOUSNESS THEY DESERVE
00:36:00 AND SEND A CLEAR MESSAGE THAT SAN FRANCISCO WILL NOT TOLERATE
00:36:04 HATE DRIVEN VIOLENCE OR INTIMIDATION.
00:36:05 HATE HAS NO PLACE IN OUR CITY. THIS LEGISLATION IS ABOUT
00:36:09 SUPPORTING VICTIMS, STRENGTHENING ACCOUNTABILITY
00:36:13 AND ENCOURAGING MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO COME FORWARD WITH
00:36:16 INFORMATION THAT CAN HELP SOLVE THESE CRIMES.
00:36:19 WE ARE JOINED TODAY BY KHALIL NAUSEDA FROM THE SAN FRANCISCO
00:36:23 POLICE DEPARTMENT. SHOULD THE COMMITTEE HAVE ANY
00:36:24 QUESTIONS? AND SUPERVISOR DORSEY HOPES TO
00:36:27 EARN YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU.
00:36:30 >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, BRIAN. AND JUST QUICK QUESTION JUST
00:36:34 FOR PUBLIC AND FOR MY CLEAR UNDERSTANDING.
00:36:37 WHERE WERE THE RESOURCES COME FROM FOR THE FUND AND THEY
00:36:41 WOULD BE LARGELY DONATION BASED AND MR. NANCY THE WHAT DO YOU
00:36:50 MEAN WE WANT TO PROVIDE A BIT MORE CLARITY.
00:36:51 >> CARL. >> GOOD MORNING, CHAIR WALTON
00:36:56 SO THE ORDINANCE WOULD ESTABLISH A CATEGORY SIX FUND
00:37:02 FOR DONATIONS OR APPROPRIATIONS FROM THE BOARD.
00:37:05 THE ORDINANCE DOES NOT APPROPRIATE ANY MONEY TO THAT
00:37:07 FUND. SO THE DEPARTMENT WOULD RELY ON
00:37:10 FUNDS FROM THAT CATEGORY SIX FUND SHOULD THERE BE ANY
00:37:11 AVAILABLE. >> THANK YOU.
00:37:14 I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. >> DON'T SAY ANY MORE FROM
00:37:18 COLLEAGUES. MR. CLERK, PLEASE GO TO PUBLIC
00:37:19 COMMENT. YES.
00:37:22 MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM SHOULD
00:37:23 LINE UP TO SPEAK AT THIS TIME. EACH SPEAKER BE ALLOWED TWO
00:37:26 MINUTES? ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE
00:37:27 PUBLIC LIKE TO COMMENT ON THIS MATTER?
00:37:30 THERE ARE NO SPEAKERS. THERE ARE NO PUBLIC COMMENTERS.
00:37:37 >> THANK YOU. IN A PUBLIC COMMENT PUBLIC
00:37:38 COMMENT IS NOW CLOSED. >> PRESIDENT MEL A MINUTE.
00:37:42 THANK YOU, CHAIR WALTON. I'LL MOVE FORWARD TO FULL BOARD
00:37:44 WITH POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION ON THE MOTION ON THE MOTION TO
00:37:52 RECOMMEND. VICE CHAIR CHERYL CHERYL I
00:37:55 REMEMBER GENTLEMAN MANAGEMENT I CHAIR WALTON.
00:37:59 I WAS DENIED THAT MOTION PASSES WITHOUT OBJECTION.
00:38:03 >> THANK YOU. MOTION CARRIES.
00:38:06 >> MR. CLERK, PLEASE. DO WE HAVE ANY MORE BUSINESS
00:38:10 THIS MORNING? >> THERE ARE NO OTHER ITEMS ON
00:38:11 TODAY'S AGENDA. THANK YOU.
00:38:13 >> WE ARE ADJOURNED