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GOOD AFTERNOON. >> THIS MEETING WILL COME TO
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ORDER. WELCOME TO THE MAY 18TH 2026
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REGULAR MEETING OF THE LAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE OF
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THE SAN FRANCISCO BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
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I AM SUPERVISOR MARIN MELGAR, CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE JOINED
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BY VICE CHAIR SUPERVISOR CHEYENNE CHEN AND SUPERVISOR
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BILAL MAHMOOD, THE COMMITTEE CLERK TODAY IS MR. JOHN
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CARROLL. I ALSO WANT TO GIVE A SPECIAL
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THANKS TO JEANETTE AND GOLIATH AT S.F. GOV TV FOR SERVING US
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DURING THIS MEETING. >> MR. CLERK, DO YOU HAVE ANY
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ANNOUNCEMENTS? YES.
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THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. PLEASE ENSURE THAT YOU'VE
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SILENCED YOUR CELL PHONES AND OTHER ELECTRONIC DEVICES
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THAT YOU'VE BROUGHT WITH YOU INTO THE CHAMBER TODAY.
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IF YOU HAVE ANY DOCUMENTS TO BE INCLUDED AS PART OF ANY OF
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TODAY'S ONE FILE YOU CAN SUBMIT IT TO ME.
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PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE TAKEN ON EACH ITEM ON TODAY'S AGENDA
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WHEN YOUR ITEM OF INTEREST COMES UP AND PUBLIC COMMENT IS
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CALLED PLEASE LINE UP TO SPEAK ALONG YOUR RIGHT HAND SIDE OF
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THIS ROOM. ALTERNATIVELY YOU MAY SUBMIT
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YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT IN WRITING IN EITHER OF THE FOLLOWING
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WAYS. FIRST YOU MAY EMAIL YOUR
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COMMENTS TO ME AT J O H AND PERIOD S.R.O. L L AT SFD OF
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YOUR AG OR YOU MAY SEND YOUR WRITTEN COMMENTS TO OUR OFFICE
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IN CITY HALL. THAT IS ONE DR. CARLTON BE GOOD
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PLACE ROOM 244 SAN FRANCISCO, CALIFORNIA 94102 IF YOU SUBMIT
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YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS IN WRITING I WILL FORD YOUR COMMENTS TO
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THE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE AND ALSO INCLUDE YOUR COMMENTS
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AS PART OF THE OFFICIAL FILE ON WHICH YOU ARE COMMENTING ITEMS
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ACTED UPON TODAY OR EXPECTED TO APPEAR ON THE BOARD OF
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SUPERVISORS AGENDA OF JUNE SECOND, 2026 UNLESS OTHERWISE
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STATED. >> THANK YOU MR. CLERK.
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PLEASE CALL ITEM NUMBER ONE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE IS AN
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ORDINANCE AMENDING THE HEALTH CODE TO PERMIT PROHIBIT SMOKING
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IN THE OUTDOOR PATIOS OF BARS AND TAVERNS.
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ELIMINATE EXCEPTIONS ALLOWING INDOOR SMOKING IN BARS WITH NO
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EMPLOYEES BARS WITH HISTORICALLY COMPLIANT
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SEMI-ENCLOSED SMOKING ROOMS AND HOTEL ROOMS TO CONFORM TO
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PROVISIONS OF CALIFORNIA LAW AND REPEAL SUSPENDED
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AND SUPERSEDED PROVISIONS REGULATING SMOKING IN CERTAIN
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OTHER LOCATIONS. >> THANK YOU MR. CLERK.
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>> COLLEAGUES, THIS IS AT MY AT LEGISLATION.
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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WILLING TO HEAR IT AND I WILL
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BE ASKING FOR A CONTINUANCE OF THIS ITEM TO JUNE 8TH.
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WE HAVE GOTTEN A LOT OF COMMUNICATION FROM THE PUBLIC
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ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ISSUE FOLKS WHO ARE SUPPORTIVE
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AND FOLKS WHO ARE NOT SUPPORTIVE BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY
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I HAVE ENGAGED WITH SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES AND THE MAYOR WHO
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HAS OFFERED TO HELP US THROUGH THIS PROCESS BY BRINGING PEOPLE
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TOGETHER AND SEEING IF WE CAN COME UP WITH A TIMELINE
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AND AMENDMENTS THAT WORK BETTER FOR FOLKS.
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AND I AM COMPLETELY OPEN TO THAT.
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I WELCOME THE HELP FROM BOTH THE MAYOR AND MY COLLEAGUES WHO
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ARE SEEKING TO HAVE A PATH THAT IS NOT AS CONTENTIOUS.
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SO WITH THAT I WILL BE ASKING FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN CONTINUING
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THIS ITEM TO JUNE 8TH. BUT SINCE IT IS AGENDA TODAY WE
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DO HAVE TO TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR FOLKS WHO ARE HERE TO
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COMMENT ON THIS ISSUE. JUST KEEP IN MIND WE WILL BE
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CONTINUING IT TO JUNE 8TH AND NOT TAKING ACTION TODAY.
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SO I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE ON THE ROSTER WANTING TO PROVIDE
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COMMENT OR HAVE QUESTIONS SO LET'S GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON
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THIS ITEM PLEASE MR. CLERK. >> THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR.
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LAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION WILL NOW HEAR PUBLIC COMMENT
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RELATED TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER ONE IF YOU HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT
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FOR THIS ITEM PLEASE FEEL FREE TO COME FORWARD TO THE LECTERN
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AT THIS TIME AND IF YOU'RE WAITING FOR YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO
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SPEAK ON THIS ITEM YOU CAN LINE UP TO SPEAK ALONG THAT WESTERN
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WALL. LET'S GET THE FIRST SPEAKER
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PLEASE. >> >> HI, MY NAME'S SOPHIE
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LEWIS. >> I'M A MANAGER AT EL RIO
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WHICH IS A D9 LEGACY BUSINESS. I'VE BEEN AN EMPLOYEE THERE FOR
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ABOUT TEN YEARS. I'D JUST LIKE TO EXPRESS
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OPPOSITION TO THIS, PARTICULARLY FROM THE
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PERSPECTIVE OF RUNNING AN INDEPENDENT VENUE IN SAN
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FRANCISCO. I THINK EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM
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PROBABLY KNOWS THAT IT HAS BEEN A VERY DIFFICULT LAST DECADE
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HONESTLY OF TRYING TO RUN AN INDEPENDENT VENUE HERE AND MORE
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AND MORE OF THOSE FACES ARE CLOSING IN SAN FRANCISCO BOTTOM
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OF THE HILL. THE PARK SIDE IT'S FRANKLY
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RIDICULOUS HOW FEW TRULY INDEPENDENT VENUES THERE ARE.
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>> EL RIO HAS MOSTLY FOR MOST OF OUR 40 YEAR PLUS HISTORY
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ALLOWED SMOKING ON OUR PATIO AND THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS
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THAT PEOPLE DO COME THERE AND IT WOULD AFFECT OUR INCOME
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SIGNIFICANTLY TO HAVE SMOKING REMOVED ESPECIALLY QUITE SO
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SUDDENLY. >> AND YEAH, I THINK THAT IT
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WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT ALSO FROM THE PERSPECTIVE OF OUR
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EMPLOYEES TO BE PUT IN CHARGE OF ENFORCING THIS ESPECIALLY
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IN A SPACE WHERE HISTORICALLY SMOKING HAS BEEN ALLOWED.
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UM I THINK ONCE AGAIN EVERYBODY IN THIS ROOM KNOWS THAT IT IS
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VERY DIFFICULT TO MAKE A LIVING IN SAN FRANCISCO ON SERVICE
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INDUSTRY WAGES. AND PUTTING THE BURDEN OF
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ENFORCEMENT ON EMPLOYEES WHO ARE ALREADY STRUGGLING TO
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SURVIVE RIGHT NOW IN SAN FRANCISCO PUTS ONE MORE BARRIER
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IN IN THE WAY OF PEOPLE HAVING A SUCCESSFUL LIFE IN SAN
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FRANCISCO. AND YEAH, I THINK THAT'S IT.
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THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS TO
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THE NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE. >> HELLO.
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MY NAME IS SABATINO FUSCO. I AM A BARTENDER AND NONSMOKER
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AT EL RIO. YOUR DIVE.
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>> I AM OPPOSED TO THIS BAN MAINLY FOR THE REASONS THAT MY
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COWORKER SOFIA STATED THAT ARE ONE OF OUR MAIN DRAWS IS OUR
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BACK PATIO. WE HAVE DAYTIME PARTIES WHERE
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PEOPLE ARE DANCING AND HAVING FUN IN THE SUNLIGHT AND OF
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COURSE THEY'RE SMOKING BACK THERE AND IT'S A BIG DRAW FOR
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PEOPLE TO BE HAVING THEIR ALCOHOLIC DRINKS AND HAVE A
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CIGARET OR VAPE OR WHATEVER THEY DO YOU KNOW BACK THERE.
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AND I JUST FEEL AS A MINIMUM WAGE WORKER HERE TO PUT ANOTHER
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POLICING CAP ON ME ON PATRONS THAT COME IN IS JUST MORE YOU
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KNOW OPPRESSIVENESS OF TRYING TO HAVE PEOPLE HAVE FUN AND YOU
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KNOW THAT'S A PURPOSE OF OUR JOB IS TO HAVE PEOPLE COME
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IN AND BE ENTERTAINED AND HAVE A GOOD TIME AND TO HAVE TO YOU
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KNOW, LIKE WAG MY FINGER AT THEM FOR SAYING NO AND THEN
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PUSH THEM OUT ONTO THE STREET WHERE THEY'RE OUT ON A PUBLIC
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SIDEWALK CLOGGING UP AND CONGESTING THAT'S JUST
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SEEMS, YOU KNOW, REDUNDANT. SO YES, I AM OPPOSED TO THIS.
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>> I FEEL IT'S NOT A NECESSARY THING AND THAT WE ARE ADULTS.
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WE'RE IN AN ADULT SPACE AND WE HAVE A CHOICE WHETHER TO DO
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WHAT WE WANT IN THOSE SPACES WHETHER IT BE SMOKING OR NOT
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SMOKING. AND I STATED I'M A SMOKER BUT I
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DON'T CARE IF PEOPLE ARE SMOKING AROUND ME AND I'LL MOVE
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IF I NEED TO. WE'RE ADULTS AND WE CAN MAKE
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THOSE DECISIONS. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
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>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE SUPERVISORS
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HOW ARE YOU? THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME
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TO LISTEN TO PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS MATTER TODAY.
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MY NAME IS DAN SARRATT AND I'M ONE OF THE PROUD CO-OWNERS OF
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FINNEGANS WAKE. MY BUSINESS PARTNER TOM FRANKEL
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STARTED THE BAR 50 YEARS AGO IN 1976 SNOWY VALLEY AND HE HAD
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THE PRIVILEGE IN 89 TO MOVING THE BAR TO THE OLD MOD SPACE
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WHEN RICKY STREICHER WAS RETIRING.
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AND SO WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL BEER GARDEN.
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IF YOU'VE NOT BEEN THERE, PLEASE COME BY ANY TIME.
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SINCE WE'VE BEEN AT THE COAL VALLEY LOCATION SINCE 89 WE
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HAVE NOT RECEIVED ONE COMPLAINT EVER ABOUT SMOKING IN THE
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BACKYARD. SO THIS WAS AN ISSUE YOU KNOW,
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WE WOULD MAKE ADJUSTMENTS AND I WOULD THINK THAT THIS MATTER
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WOULD BE MORE RELEVANT TO OUR CURRENT TIMES.
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BUT IT'S NOT AND WE HAVE SO MANY IMPORTANT THINGS FOR THIS
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CITY TO BE FOCUSING ON. WE SHOULD NOT BE IN THE PRESS
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FOR THIS TYPE OF LEGISLATION. SO I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT
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YOU GUYS KILL THIS MATTER AT COMMITTEE AND THIS DOES NOT GO
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ON ANY FURTHER. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE.
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>> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS STEVEN TORRES.
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I'M A NIGHTLIFE WORKER, FORMER ENTERTAINMENT COMMISSIONER.
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I YOU KNOW, I AM HEARTENED TO HEAR THAT THERE ARE AMENDMENTS
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AND THAT THERE HAS BEEN HELP FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE
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ALTHOUGH I WILL ASK THAT YOU DO WITHDRAW THIS ORDINANCE.
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I FEEL THAT IN TERMS OF WHAT IT WILL DO TO OUR INDUSTRY THE
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IMPACTS ARE ONLY NEGATIVE. WE WILL BE TASKED WITH BOTH
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BEING THE ENFORCEMENT AND WE WILL ALSO BE THE TARGETS OF
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PENALTIES IF WE CANNOT MAKE THAT ENFORCEMENT HAPPEN.
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>> THE THERE ARE LOTS OF WAYS IN WHICH I BELIEVE THAT THERE
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COULD HAVE BEEN OUTREACH DONE IN ADVANCE OF THIS NOT AFTER
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THE ORDINANCE WAS ALREADY INTRODUCED.
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SO I THINK IT IS A LITTLE BIT OF A CART BEFORE THE HORSE.
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I'VE HEARD OF A LONG RUNWAY. I'VE HEARD OF FRAMING AROUND
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LIKE WE'RE JUST CREATING A CONVERSATION.
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I THINK IF THAT WAS TRUE WE WOULD BE HAVING A HEARING ON
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THE IMPACTS OF SMOKING OR THE STATE OF THE NIGHTLIFE INDUSTRY
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NOT AN ORDINANCE. I THINK THAT THAT IS THE WORK
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THAT WE ENTRUST OUR REPRESENTATIVES TO DO
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IN ADVANCE OF ANY LEGISLATION AND FRANKLY THE CITY HAS A LOT
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OF OPPORTUNITIES IN WHICH THEY CAN DIRECTLY ENFORCE AGAINST
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THINGS THAT CREATE HEALTH HAZARDS LIKE SMOKING.
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>> I WAS JUST ON THE NINE ON THE WAY HERE.
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THERE WAS PLENTY OF SMOKING OF ALL KINDS OF SUBSTANCES
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HAPPENING ON THAT BUS AND SO THAT IS A WAY IN WHICH THE CITY
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COULD BE ENFORCING DIRECTLY. SO I FEEL ALL DUE RESPECT THAT
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THE CITY HAS LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THEIR JOB
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HERE INSTEAD OF MAKING OURS MORE DIFFICULT.
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>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
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NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE. >> HI, MY NAME IS TATIANA
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AND I'M HERE SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF YOUTH LEADERSHIP INSTITUTE,
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A LOCAL YOUTH DEVELOPMENT NONPROFIT.
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>> PUT THE MIC CLOSER TO YOUR MOUTH JUST SO THAT WE CAN HEAR
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YOU. YEAH.
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THANK YOU. DOVE, A DEVELOPMENT NONPROFIT
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SERVING YOUTH RANGING FROM 14 TO 24.
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I WOULD LIKE TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT OF SMOKING FOR YOU BAR
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PARTIERS BECAUSE SECONDHAND SMOKE AND NEGATIVE FUMES ARE
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HARMFUL TO BOTH PUBLIC HEALTH AND THE ENVIRONMENT.
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THOUGH THE TWO PROGRAMS ELITE IS HIGH SCHOOL YOUTH IN SAN
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FRANCISCO WE WORK TO PROMOTE HEALTHIER COMMUNITIES
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AND EDUCATE YOUNG PEOPLE ABOUT THE HARMS OF TOBACCO
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AND NICOTINE. ALTHOUGH MANY OF MY YOUTH WE
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WORK WITH ARE NOT YET ENOUGH TO GO WORK AT BARS.
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WHEN THE DAY COMES I WANT THEM TO BE SAFE FROM SECOND HAND
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SMOKE AND NICOTINE VAPE FUMES ON THE BAR PATIOS BAR PATIOS
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SHOULD BE WELCOMING TO EVERYONE INCLUDING PEOPLE WITH ASTHMA
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AND OTHER DISEASES THAT MAKE THEM VULNERABLE TO SMOKE
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EXPOSURE. OUR YOUTH ARE WORKING HARD FOR
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THE WORLD WITHOUT NICOTINE ADDICTION.
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THEY KNOW THE SMOKE FREE BAR PATIOS CAN HELP INSPIRE YOUR
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FRIENDS IN THEIR SMOKE OR VAPE TOO.
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>> PLEASE VOTE YES TODAY TO MAKE THIS GO TO BECOME A LITTLE
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SAFER FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR YOUTH.
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THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
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NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE. >> HELLO, MY NAME IS JUSTICE
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AND ALSO I OWN TWO BARS IN SAN FRANCISCO.
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I I'M ALSO THE PRESIDENT OF SMALL BUSINESS FORWARD WHICH
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REPRESENTS A NUMBER OF OTHER BARS.
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I'M GLAD THAT WE ARE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION.
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I'VE HAD MANY CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THIS ISSUE SINCE IT CAME
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UP. THEY HAVE BEEN OVERWHELMINGLY
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OVERWHELMINGLY NEGATIVE BUSINESS AS PATRONS PEOPLE WHO
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BELIEVE THE CITY COULD BE DOING SO MUCH MORE TO HELP OUR SMALL
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BUSINESS COMMUNITY RATHER THAN FINDING A PROBLEM WE CAN ALL
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AGREE IS REAL AND TAKING THE STICK TO SMALL BUSINESSES TO
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ENFORCE AND SOLVE THAT PROBLEM. THIS WILL HAVE REAL SUBSTANTIAL
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EFFECTS ON SMALL BUSINESSES. BOTTOM LINE AS THEY'RE STILL
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STRUGGLING TO COME OUT OF THE PANDEMIC AS WE HAVE HEARD.
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THE BURDEN OF ENFORCEMENT WILL GO TO SMALL BUSINESS WORKERS
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WHO ALREADY HAVE SO SO MUCH TO DO AND FINES ASSOCIATED WILL GO
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TO THE SMALL BUSINESSES THEMSELVES.
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IT'S AN ISSUE THAT I THINK WE CAN AGREE THERE SHOULD BE SO
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MUCH MORE DONE ON ALL THE THINGS THAT WE FACE AS BUSINESS
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OWNERS IN SAN FRANCISCO RISING RENTS FOR EXAMPLE.
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SO I URGE YOU PLEASE VOTE NO ON THIS.
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>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
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NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE. >> HELLO, MY NAME IS JULIAN
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AINSWORTH. >> GOOD AFTERNOON SUPERVISORS.
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I RUN A SMALL BAR IN THE MISSION DISTRICT.
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I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT I'M AWARE THAT THERE HAS BEEN A
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CONTINUANCE PLACED ON THIS PROPOSAL BUT I'M HERE TO GIVE
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PUBLIC COMMENT AS IT STANDS. I'M HERE IN SOLIDARITY WITH THE
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OTHER SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS TO VOTE NO.
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VOTE NO ON THIS NUMBER. AS I SEE IT, WE HAVE MORE
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PRESSING THREATS TO PUBLIC HEALTH IN SAN FRANCISCO
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AND COMING AFTER THE FEW SMOKING PATIOS LEFT IN THE CITY
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WILL DAMAGE SMALL BUSINESS AND DO NOTHING TO DISSUADE
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SMOKING AT LARGE. SAN FRANCISCO NIGHTLIFE ALREADY
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FACES EXTRA OBSTACLES TO MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO COMPETE
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NATIONALLY AND INTERNATIONALLY AND BEING SUCH A COSMOPOLITAN
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CITY, OUR REPUTATION AS A TRAVEL DESTINATION NEEDS TO BE
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CONSIDERED AS A FACTOR IN PROMOTING TOURISM BRINGING
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MORE PEOPLE TO SAN FRANCISCO. I FEEL THIS BAN IS UNNECESSARY
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AND OUT OF TOUCH OUT OF LINE WITH PROMOTING SMALL BUSINESS
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WHICH IS THE BACKBONE OF OUR CITY TAX REVENUE.
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>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
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>> NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE. HELLO, MY NAME IS ZACK.
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I OWN THE OCCIDENTAL CIGAR CLUB ON PINE STREET.
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WE ARE A 32 YEAR BUSINESS. WE ARE EMPLOYEE OPERATED.
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MOST OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO SAY HAVE ALREADY BEEN ECHOED.
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>> THE BEAUTY OF PATIOS IN THE CITY IS THAT THERE ARE MANY
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THAT DO NOT ALLOW SMOKING. AND NOT EVERYONE HAS TO GO TO A
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PATIO THAT ALLOWS SMOKING. WE HAVE CHOICES.
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I JUST PERSONALLY SIGNED A SIX YEAR LEASE.
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I'VE GOT ANOTHER ALMOST QUARTER OF $1 MILLION IN SBA LOAN.
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>> I JUST SIGNED A SIX YEAR LEASE.
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I HAVE ANOTHER QUARTER OF A MILLION AN SBA LOAN THAT I'M
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PAYING OFF FOR POST-PANDEMIC. THE REALITY IS IS THAT I DON'T
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THINK YOU CAN SAY THAT YOU SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESS.
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AND ON THE OTHER HAND HAVE THIS THING GO THROUGH.
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IT WILL KILL ME. IT WILL KILL THE CIGAR BAR
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AND IT WILL GUT SLOWLY EVERYONE ELSE WHO'S SPOKEN HERE AND I
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CAN THINK OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD 1011 BARS.
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I'M NOT EVEN REALLY TRYING TO THINK THAT WILL ABSOLUTELY LOSE
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THEIR MARKET SHARE. SO I'M ENCOURAGED THAT THERE'S
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BEEN A CONTINUANCE AND YOU'RE GOING BACK TO THE TABLE.
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BUT THE POINT IS IS THAT YOU YOU IF THIS THING DOES GO
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THROUGH WE'RE ALL SCREWED. YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE AN OWNER,
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IF YOU'RE AN OPERATOR, IF YOU'RE AN EMPLOYEE.
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SO I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUED CONVERSATION.
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>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
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NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON, SUPERVISOR.
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MY NAME IS MARY KEMP. I AM A RESIDENT OF SAN
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FRANCISCO AND I REPRESENT THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY CANCER
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ACTION NETWORK. FOR TEN YEARS I WORKED WITH
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STAFF IN RESTAURANTS. I HAVE ASTHMA.
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>> I KNOW WHAT IT FEELS LIKE TO SPEND AN EIGHT HOUR SHIFT
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BREATHING AIR. YOU DIDN'T CHOOSE.
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>> THIS IS FUNDAMENTALLY A WORKER PROTECTION ISSUE.
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BAR EMPLOYEES CANNOT OPT OUT. CUSTOMERS DECIDE WHETHER TO SIT
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ON THE PATIO. >> WORKERS DON'T GET THAT
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CHOICE. THEY GO WHERE THE TABLES ARE.
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>> RIGHT NOW 1 IN 3 YOUNG ADULTS IN THE SAN FRANCISCO
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AND ALAMEDA COUNTIES ARE EXPOSED TO SECONDHAND SMOKE AT
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WORK. THESE WORKERS ARE
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DISPROPORTIONATELY LOW INCOME AND LATINO.
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THEY ARE ALREADY DOING EVERYTHING RIGHT SHOWING UP,
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WORKING HARD AND WE ARE ALLOWING THEM TO BE HARMED FOR
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IT. THE CDC IS UNAMBIGUOUS.
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THERE IS NO SAFE LEVEL OF SECONDHAND SMOKE EXPOSURE, EVEN
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BRIEF DAMAGE BRIEF EXPOSURE DAMAGES BLOOD VESSELS FOR
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SOMEONE WITH ASTHMA OR A HEART CONDITION OR PREGNANCY.
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>> BRIEF IS IN BRIEF ENOUGH. >> AND UNLIKE CUSTOMERS,
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WORKERS ABSORB THAT EXPOSURE EVERY SINGLE SHIFT.
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IN A CITY AS DENSE AS SAN FRANCISCO, SMOKE DOESN'T STAY
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ON THE PATIO. IT DRIFTS INTO THE APARTMENTS
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AND HOMES NEXT DOOR. CHILDREN IN THOSE HOMES ARE
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BREATHING IT TOO. AND FOR CHILDREN SECONDHAND
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SMOKE MEANS RESPIRATORY INFECTIONS, EAR INFECTIONS
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AND ASTHMA ATTACKS. WHEN YOUR LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON
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YOUR EMPLOYER, YOU LEARN NOT TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THE CONDITIONS.
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THAT'S NOT CONSENT. THAT'S ECONOMICS.
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WE DON'T ASK OUR WORKERS TO ADVOCATE FOR VENTILATION
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STANDARDS OR SLIP RESISTANT FLOORS.
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WE SET A STANDARD BECAUSE INDIVIDUAL WORKERS ARE RARELY
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IN A POSITION TO ADVOCATE FOR THEIR OWN SAFETY.
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>> I ASK FOR THE CONTINUATION. THANK YOU.
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE.
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>> I'M BRIAN DAVIS DISTRICT FIVE VOTER CO-CHAIR SAN
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FRANCISCO TOBACCO FREE COALITION.
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THE SO CALLED CHOICE TO SMOKE IS HEAVILY INFLUENCED BY A
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POWERFUL ADDICTION TO A DEADLY DRUG THAT FOR NEARLY EVERYONE
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WHO SMOKES STARTED IN THEIR TEENS WHEN THEIR BRAINS WERE
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DEVELOPING. NICOTINE REWIRES THE BRAIN SO
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IT FEELS LIKE IT CAN'T FUNCTION NORMALLY WITHOUT IT MAKING IT
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EXTREMELY DIFFICULT TO MAKE ANY OTHER CHOICE BUT TO SMOKE.
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>> SO DO WE ACCOMMODATE THAT ADDICTION OR DO WE WORK TO END
00:17:22
IT TO HELP PEOPLE FREE THEMSELVES FROM THE CHAINS?
00:17:26
NICOTINE WRAPS AROUND THEIR MINDS AND THE DAMAGE SMOKE
00:17:29
AND VAPE PIMPLES DOES TO THEIR BODIES.
00:17:30
WE KNOW THAT INCREASING SMOKE FREE AREAS HELPS PEOPLE QUIT IF
00:17:34
SMOKE FREE PATIOS HELPS JUST ONE PERSON GET THE EXTRA
00:17:38
INCENTIVE THEY NEED. ISN'T THAT WORTH IT?
00:17:41
ARE WE REALLY TREATING HUMAN LIVES JUST TO CALM THE FEARS OF
00:17:45
FINANCIAL LOSSES THAT DECADES OF RESEARCH SHOW WON'T HAPPEN?
00:17:49
IF SMOKE IS NEARBY YOU'LL BREATHE IT AND THERE IS NO SAFE
00:17:53
LEVEL OF SECONDHAND SMOKE EXPOSURE.
00:17:54
>> IF IT'S ON THE SIDEWALK YOU MIGHT HAVE TO WALK THROUGH IT
00:17:57
BUT AT LEAST YOU CAN GET AWAY FROM IT ON A BAR PATIO.
00:18:01
THERE IS NO ESCAPING IT. PEOPLE SAY IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT
00:18:04
GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. BUT THERE ARE OTHER REASONS TO
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BE IN A BAR PATIO THAN SMOKING .
00:18:09
WHAT IF A BAND YOU LOVE IS PLAYING THERE?
00:18:10
WHAT IF THIS IS WHERE YOU FIND YOUR COMMUNITY BUT YOUR HEALTH
00:18:13
IS AT RISK? INTERSEX COMMUNITY LEADER DAVID
00:18:17
STRACHAN WHO COULDN'T BE HERE, WROTE IN HIS LETTER TO YOU
00:18:18
QUOTE I OFTEN GO TO MY NEIGHBORHOOD BAR TO SOCIALIZE
00:18:22
AND VISIT WITH FRIENDS AND NEIGHBORS.
00:18:24
WHILE THIS HAS BEEN QUITE PLEASURABLE AND BENEFICIAL TO
00:18:28
MY MENTAL HEALTH SITTING ON ITS OUTDOOR PATIO AND BEING EXPOSED
00:18:32
TO SECONDHAND SMOKE HAS NOT BEEN BENEFICIAL TO MY PHYSICAL
00:18:33
HEALTH AS I AM IMMUNOCOMPROMISED AND GET
00:18:37
BRONCHITIS EASILY. IF THE SMOKING FOLKS WHO I WANT
00:18:40
TO SOCIALIZE WITH ARE ON THE PATIO I HAVE TO ENDURE THE
00:18:44
SMOKE IN ORDER TO CONNECT WITH THEM UNQUOTE.
00:18:47
AND WE SUPPORT THE CONTINUANCE. THANK YOU.
00:18:51
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. >> NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE.
00:18:55
>> GOOD AFTERNOON SUPERVISORS. MY NAME IS LIZ WILLIAMS WITH
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AMERICANS FOR NONSMOKERS RIGHTS ARE A NONPROFIT BASED IN THE
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BAY AREA FOR THE LAST 50 YEARS. >> WE STRONGLY SUPPORT THE
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PROPOSAL TO END SMOKING AND VAPING ON BAR PATIOS
00:19:04
AND THIS WILL HELP EVERYONE INVOLVED BREATHE AIR THAT IS
00:19:07
FREE FROM THE HEALTH RISKS OF SECONDHAND SMOKE EXPOSURE.
00:19:10
>> THIS ORDINANCE AS CURRENTLY PROPOSED WOULD CREATE A LEVEL
00:19:14
PLAYING FIELDS THAT ALL BARS ARE ON THE SAME FOOTING.
00:19:15
NOT ONLY WILL IT PROVIDE EQUAL HEALTH PROTECTIONS BUT A SIMPLE
00:19:18
STRONG AND FAIR LAW MAKES IT EASIER FOR EVERYONE TO
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UNDERSTAND, FOLLOW AND COMPLY WITH THE LAW.
00:19:24
SAN FRANCISCO HAS BEEN A LEADER AND INNOVATOR IN TOBACCO
00:19:26
PREVENTION BUT THIS IS NOT A NEW IDEA.
00:19:29
MORE THAN 120 OTHER CITIES AND COUNTIES IN CALIFORNIA
00:19:32
INCLUDING SAN JOSE AND OAKLAND ALREADY IMPLEMENTED SMOKE FREE
00:19:36
BAR PATIO LAWS. THESE LAWS WORK WELL
00:19:37
IN PRACTICE AND CITIES HAVE NOT ROLLED THEIR LAWS BACK.
00:19:41
THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE SIMPLY FOLLOW THE LAW WHEN THERE'S
00:19:44
GOOD SIGNAGE AND AWARENESS. PEOPLE JUST STEP OUT TO THE
00:19:45
CURB, HAVE A SMOKE AND COME BACK INSIDE.
00:19:48
THAT'S PROVEN OVER AND OVER AGAIN IN CITIES AROUND THE
00:19:50
STATE AND AROUND THE COUNTRY. >> I ALSO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT
00:19:52
THAT AT AN HOUR WE OFTEN HEAR FROM WORKERS WHO DON'T LIKE
00:19:55
BREATHING SECONDHAND SMOKE BUT THEY FEEL LIKE THEY DON'T HAVE
00:19:56
A CHOICE IF THEY WANT TO KEEP THEIR JOB AND THEY DON'T FEEL
00:20:00
COMFORTABLE SPEAKING UP ABOUT IT.
00:20:01
THEY LOVE WHERE THEY WORK. THEY LOVE BEING PART OF THE
00:20:03
DYNAMIC HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY BUT BREATHING SMOKE NIGHT AFTER
00:20:07
NIGHT IT'S HARMING THEIR HEALTH.
00:20:08
IT'S HARMING THEIR ABILITY TO DO THEIR JOB AND WE THINK THAT
00:20:10
PEOPLE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO CHOOSE BETWEEN THEIR HEALTH
00:20:11
AND THEIR PAYCHECK. >> I ENCOURAGE YOU TO SUPPORT
00:20:15
THIS REASONABLE HEALTH AND SAFETY REGULATION AS
00:20:18
WRITTEN TO ALLOW MORE PEOPLE TO BREATHE AIR THAT'S FREE FROM
00:20:19
TOXICS SECONDHAND SMOKE EXPOSURE.
00:20:21
>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMMENTS.
00:20:23
NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON SUPERVISORS.
00:20:29
MY NAME'S LIZ HENDRICKS AND THE GOVERNMENT RELATIONS DIRECTOR
00:20:30
FOR THE AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY CANCER ACTION NETWORK OR YES,
00:20:34
CAN YOU SEE US CAN STANDS IN STRONG SUPPORT OF THE SMOKE
00:20:37
FREE BAR PATIOS ORDINANCE IN SAN FRANCISCO WE BELIEVE
00:20:40
THAT ALL SAN FRANCISCO RESIDENTS DESERVE TO BREATHE
00:20:42
CLEAN AIR IN ALL INDOOR AND OUTDOOR SPACES AND WE'RE
00:20:45
CONCERNED ABOUT THE HEALTH OF THE NEIGHBORS AND FAMILIES WHO
00:20:49
ARE EXPOSED TO THE DANGEROUS SECONDHAND SMOKE, THE GYPSUM
00:20:52
BAR PATIOS INTO THEIR HOUSES OR BAR GOERS DO HAVE THE ABILITY
00:20:56
TO CHOOSE WHICH BARS THEY WANT TO ATTEND.
00:20:57
MANY FAMILIES LIVING NEXT TO THESE BARS DO NOT.
00:20:59
THIS INCLUDES MANY CHILDREN, SENIORS AND PEOPLE WHO ARE AT
00:21:03
INCREASED RISK OF RESPIRATORY ILLNESSES AND DECREASED LUNG
00:21:07
FUNCTION. THERE'S NO SAFE LEVEL OF
00:21:08
SECONDHAND SMOKE EXPOSURE AND EVEN A BRIEF EXPOSURE CAN
00:21:12
CAUSE IMMEDIATE HARM. SO SECONDHAND SMOKE EXPOSURE
00:21:15
HAS BEEN SHOWN TO CAUSE RESPIRATORY INFECTIONS, EAR
00:21:19
INFECTIONS AND ASTHMA ATTACKS IN CHILDREN AND IN BABIES
00:21:20
SECONDHAND SMOKE CAN CAUSE SUDDEN INFANT DEATH SYNDROME OR
00:21:23
SIDS WHILE ACES CAN UNDERSTAND THE ECONOMIC CONCERNS THAT MANY
00:21:27
OF THE BAR OWNERS AND EMPLOYEES HAVE SHARED TODAY AROUND THIS
00:21:30
ORDINANCE, EVIDENCE HAS CONSISTENTLY SHOWN THAT SMOKE
00:21:34
FREE AIR LAWS DO NOT RESULT IN THE LONG TERM LOSS OF
00:21:35
REVENUE FOR BUSINESSES OR BUSINESS ESTABLISHMENTS THAT
00:21:39
ADOPT THESE TYPES OF POLICIES. THERE'S A 25 STUDY IF
00:21:42
CALIFORNIA STATEWIDE 1995 SMOKE FREE RESTAURANT LAW THAT FOUND
00:21:46
THAT THE LAW WAS ASSOCIATED WITH AN INCREASE IN RESTAURANT
00:21:50
REVENUE WERE SIMILARLY IN THE 1998 SMOKE FREE BAR LAW WAS
00:21:54
ASSOCIATED WITH AN INCREASE IN BAR REVENUES AND ADDITIONAL
00:21:57
STUDIES HAVE FOUND SIMILAR RESULTS IN OTHER STATES.
00:22:01
>> WE URGE YOU TO SUPPORT THIS ORDINANCE.
00:22:02
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS TO
00:22:03
THE NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE. >> HI THERE.
00:22:07
MY NAME IS BRIAN SAWYER AND I LIVE IN SAN FRANCISCO'S 10TH
00:22:11
DISTRICT. I HAVE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF
00:22:14
SUPERVISOR MULGREW'S PROPOSED POLICY FOR 20 OF THE 30 YEARS
00:22:18
THAT I WAS A SERVICE WORKER I LIVED IN STATES THAT HAD NO
00:22:21
SECOND HAND SMOKE PROTECTIONS. I HAD TRIED UNSUCCESSFULLY TO
00:22:22
STOP SMOKING FOR MANY YEARS DUE TO THE CONSTANT EXPOSURE TO
00:22:26
SECONDHAND SMOKE IN THE WORKPLACE INDOORS AND OUT.
00:22:30
I COULDN'T. THEN I MOVED TO SAN FRANCISCO
00:22:33
AND WAS FINALLY ABLE TO QUIT SMOKING WHILE SERVING IN A
00:22:34
RESTAURANT BLOCKS AWAY FROM HERE 22 YEARS AGO.
00:22:37
>> I'D LIKE TO SHARE A QUOTE FROM A FORMER BAR WORKER
00:22:40
RECENTLY RECORDED AT A SAN FRANCISCO PRIDE EVENT.
00:22:43
I WORKED IN BARS FOR YEARS WHEN YOU COULD SMOKE IN BARS WHEN
00:22:47
THE LAW CHANGED AND YOU HAD TO SMOKE OUTSIDE, IT ACTUALLY
00:22:48
RESULTED IN MORE PEOPLE QUITTING AND REALLY RESULTED
00:22:51
IN A GOOD EFFECT A MORE HEALTHY EFFECT.
00:22:52
ALSO JUST AS A BAR WORKER YOU'RE REALLY ENTITLED TO HAVE
00:22:55
HEALTH AND SAFETY AS PART OF YOUR JOB AND HAVING TO BE IN AN
00:22:58
ENVIRONMENT THAT HAS SMOKE HARMFUL CHEMICALS
00:22:59
AND SECONDHAND SMOKE EVEN OUTSIDE HAS A HUGE DETRIMENTAL
00:23:02
EFFECT. >> I HAVE SUPPORT FORUMS TO
00:23:05
GIVE YOU SIGN BY 13 PATIO BAR WORKERS AND A PATIO BAR
00:23:10
CO-OWNER. TWO OF THEM WORK AT BARS ON THE
00:23:13
OPPOSITION'S PETITION LIST. THEY ALL SIGNED THIS STATEMENT
00:23:17
. I SUPPORT A CITYWIDE POLICY
00:23:18
IN SAN FRANCISCO THAT WOULD PROTECT THE HEALTH OF WORKERS
00:23:21
AND CUSTOMERS BY REQUIRING ALL PAID AREAS OF EVERY BAR TO BE
00:23:25
FREE OF TOBACCO AND VAPE SMOKE INCLUDING PATIOS AND SEMI
00:23:28
ENCLOSED ROOMS. SOME OF THE WORKERS SIGNED
00:23:29
ANONYMOUSLY OUT OF FEAR FOR THEIR JOBS INCLUDING ONE WHO
00:23:33
WORKS AT ONE OF THE BARS ON THE OPPOSITION'S LIST.
00:23:36
NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO FEAR FOR THEIR JOB BY SPEAKING OUT
00:23:39
IN FAVOR OF PROTECTING THEMSELVES AND OTHER WORKERS
00:23:41
FROM TOXIC SECONDHAND SMOKE. ALSO PLEASE NOTE ON THE
00:23:44
PETITION PAGE THAT THE PARK SITE IS MARKED AS BEING
00:23:47
IN DISTRICT 11 WHEN IT'S ACTUALLY IN DISTRICT TEN.
00:23:48
THANK YOU. CONTINUATION PLEASE AND THANK
00:23:51
YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. YOU CAN LEAVE THAT ON THE RAIL
00:23:52
OR RETRIEVE IT IN A MOMENT. I'LL KEEP THEM UNTIL I CAN HAND
00:23:56
THEM. OKAY.
00:23:56
NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, SUPERVISORS
00:24:01
. >> MY NAME IS JOSEPH HAYDEN
00:24:04
AND I'M ONE OF MANY WOULD BE PATRONS OF BARS WITH PATIOS IF
00:24:08
I FELT WELCOME TO INHALE AND POISONED AIR THERE SAN
00:24:12
FRANCISCO HAS LONG PRIDED ITSELF FOR BEING A PROGRESSIVE
00:24:13
TRAILBLAZER BLAZER WE WERE ONE OF THE FIRST CITIES TO PROTECT
00:24:17
WORKERS BY BANNING INDOOR SMOKING IN THE 1990.
00:24:20
YET TODAY WE HAVE A GLARING PUBLIC HEALTH BLINDSPOT.
00:24:25
PARKS, RESTAURANTS, PATIOS AND INDOOR SPACES ARE
00:24:28
RIGHTFULLY SMOKE FREE BY LAW. THE OUTDOOR PATIOS OF OUR BARS
00:24:29
AND TAVERNS ARE STILL CAUGHT IN A TOXIC BLUE GRAY HAZE.
00:24:33
>> IT'S TIME TO PASS AN ORDINANCE THAT FINALLY MAKES
00:24:37
BAR PATIOS SMOKE FREE. LIKE THE OTHER TWO LARGE CITIES
00:24:41
IN THE BAY AREA HAVE SEEN FIT TO DO.
00:24:44
>> AND YEAH, SO THIS ISN'T JUST ABOUT THE NUISANCE OF A BAD
00:24:48
SMELL. IT IS A MEASURABLE HEALTH
00:24:51
CRISIS. A RECENT UCSF STUDY TESTED THE
00:24:52
AIR ON SAN FRANCISCO BAR PATIOS WHERE SMOKING IS PERMITTED.
00:24:59
I WAS PROUD TO BE PART OF THAT STUDY ALTHOUGH IT LITERALLY
00:25:03
MADE ME IL SIX OUT OF THE NINE LOCATIONS REGISTERED IN THE
00:25:04
EPA'S UNHEALTHY AIR QUALITY RANGE WITH ONE HITTING THE
00:25:08
HAZARDOUS THRESHOLD AMONG FRIENDS PARTICULARLY AS WE AGE
00:25:14
THE HARMS OF CANCER, ASTHMA, HIV AND DIABETES ARE ALL
00:25:18
EXAMPLES OF IMMUNO COMPROMISED. THESE PEOPLE SHOULD NOT HAVE TO
00:25:22
PLEAD FOR CLEAN AIR. >> TO SUGGEST THAT WE STAY HOME
00:25:23
IF WE DON'T LIKE IT BECAUSE IT'S PART OF OUR CULTURE IT'S
00:25:27
COMPLETELY CONCOCTED AND ABHORRENT.
00:25:30
>> I FEEL THIS PARTICULARLY AS A GAY MAN MYSELF.
00:25:33
AND THAT'S TANTAMOUNT TO SAYING THAT METH IS AN INHERENT PART
00:25:34
OF GAY CULTURE. >> SO I FULLY SUPPORT THE
00:25:37
ORDINANCE. >> THANK YOU.
00:25:40
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. >> SO THE NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE.
00:25:45
>> HELLO, MY NAME IS NICOLE BURNETT AND I AM REPRESENTING
00:25:49
ZAI GEIST AND WE STAND IN SOLIDARITY WITH THE
00:25:52
FOLLOWING ESTABLISHMENTS AND BUSINESSES
00:25:56
AND ORGANIZATIONS IN OPPOSING THIS ORDINANCE.
00:26:00
EL RENO SMALL BUSINESS FORWARD THE STUD HORSES MARKET
00:26:04
AND SALOON. CASEMENT'S MOTHER SHIP BAR
00:26:08
MOTHER THE ALEMBIC POWERHOUSE BAR THE PARKSIDE.
00:26:15
THE LAUNDRY CORNER KILOWATT THE NAPPER TANDY 540 BAR FINNEGANS
00:26:20
WAKE S.F. MARCH AND THE NATIONAL HARM REDUCTION
00:26:24
COALITION. WHILE WE RESPECT THE BOARD'S
00:26:28
CONCERN FOR PUBLIC HEALTH, WE BELIEVE THE LEGISLATION IS
00:26:31
MISGUIDED IN ITS SCOPE, TIMING AND PRIORITIES.
00:26:35
>> AND WE URGE THE BOARD TO REJECT IT.
00:26:39
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE.
00:26:42
>> HI, MY NAME IS PEYTON DANIEL .
00:26:47
I'M HERE ALSO REPRESENTING DWIGHT GEIST AND WE ARE HERE TO
00:26:50
OPPOSE THE ORDINANCE FOR BANNING SMOKING IN PATIOS.
00:26:57
THE OUTDOOR PATIO SMOKING BANS STRIKES IN ESTABLISHMENTS THAT
00:27:01
HAVE IN MANY CASES BUILT THEIR ENTIRE BUSINESS MODEL AROUND
00:27:03
THE LEGAL USE OF THESE SPACES CIGAR BARS, LEGACY NEIGHBORHOOD
00:27:06
TAVERNS THAT SERVE A CLIENTELE WITH WELL-ESTABLISHED
00:27:10
PREFERENCES. THESE ARE PRIVATE BUSINESS
00:27:14
BUSINESSES. HOSTESS HOSTING CONSENTING
00:27:17
ADULTS THE EXCEPTION THAT ALLOWS SMOKING IN BARS WITH NO
00:27:22
EMPLOYEES AND IN HISTORICAL COMPLIANT SEMI-ENCLOSED SMOKING
00:27:27
ROOMS WAS NOT A LOOPHOLE. IT WAS A DELIBERATE
00:27:30
AND REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION OF REAL WORLD BUSINESS DIVERSITY
00:27:34
LIMITING ELIMINATING THESE EXCEPTIONS WILL FORCE SOME
00:27:38
ESTABLISHMENTS TO CLOSE ENTIRELY OR TO LOSE A CRITICAL
00:27:42
PORTION OF THEIR CUSTOMER BASE AT A TIME WHEN SAN FRANCISCO
00:27:46
HOSPITALITY INDUSTRY HAS NOT FULLY RECOVERED FROM THE
00:27:50
COMPOUNDING CRISIS OF THE PANDEMIC.
00:27:54
DOWNTOWN VACANCY RETAIL FLIGHT AND PUBLIC SAFETY CONCERNS.
00:27:58
THE CITY'S RESTAURANT AND BAR SECTOR LOST HUNDREDS OF
00:28:02
BUSINESSES BUSINESSES IN THE PAST FIVE YEARS.
00:28:05
>> THIS IS NOT THE MOMENT TO PILE.
00:28:09
>> IN ADDITION, ADDITIONAL RESTRICTION.
00:28:12
>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
00:28:13
NEXT PICK A PLACE. >> HELLO TO THE BOARD OF
00:28:20
SUPERVISORS. MY NAME IS JOHN ROCK.
00:28:23
I AM A CO-OWNER OF A SMALL BUSINESS LOCATED IN THE
00:28:27
MISSION. AND I'M HERE TODAY TO ASK THAT
00:28:28
THE BOARD VOTE NO ON THE PROPOSED SMOKING BAN FILE
00:28:30
NUMBER 260361. WHILE I RESPECT THE BOARD'S
00:28:34
CONCERN FOR PUBLIC HEALTH, THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION IS
00:28:35
MISGUIDED IN ITS AIM AND PRIORITIES.
00:28:39
AN OUTDOOR SMOKING BAN CONTRIBUTES TO THE EXISTENCE OR
00:28:42
THREAT OF MANY OF SAN FRANCISCO'S MOST BELOVED
00:28:43
LOCALES. SOME EVEN LEGACY BUSINESSES
00:28:46
THAT SERVE AS LIGHTS IN THE CITY'S ALREADY FAINT NIGHTLIFE
00:28:49
BY PLACING YET ANOTHER BARRIER UPON SMALL BUSINESSES THAT
00:28:51
CURRENTLY FACE LEGISLATIVE DEMANDS FAR BEYOND STATE
00:28:54
AND FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS. >> IN ADDITION TO THE THREAT OF
00:28:58
LOSING BUSINESS, THE LEGISLATION AS IT IS CURRENTLY
00:29:01
WRITTEN PLACES ENFORCEMENT RESPONSIBILITIES ON BAR STAFF
00:29:03
AND MANAGEMENT MONITORING OUTDOOR SPACES AND NAVIGATING
00:29:06
POTENTIAL CONFLICT THAT MAY ARISE FROM ASKING PATRONS TO
00:29:09
PUT OUT THEIR CIGARETS OR TO MOVE TO THE STREETS BEARING
00:29:13
RISK OF CITATION IF PATRONS REFUSE TO COMPLY ARE THE LAST
00:29:14
THINGS THAT WE NEED TO BE WORRYING ABOUT ON TOP OF OUR
00:29:18
REGULAR OPERATIONAL DUTIES. ADDITIONALLY, WHILE THE
00:29:21
PROPOSED LEGISLATION IS WELL-INTENTIONED IN PRACTICE IT
00:29:25
WILL DO LITTLE TO MAKE PUBLIC HEALTH SAFER BECAUSE IT JUST
00:29:26
DISPLACES THE ISSUE. FIRST OUTDOOR SMOKE DISSIPATES
00:29:30
WITHIN SECONDS AFTER CIGARET SMOKE IS EXHALED AND EXPOSURE
00:29:34
FALLS SHARPLY WITH DISTANCE. AND SECOND ALLOWING OUTDOOR
00:29:37
PATIOS FOR SMOKING AREAS WHERE PEOPLE CAN CHOOSE NOT TO
00:29:41
INHABIT SHOULD THEY NOT WISH TO BE AROUND SMOKE CONTROLS WHERE
00:29:45
SMOKING IS ALLOWED. INSTEAD OF PUSHING PAID SMOKING
00:29:46
PATRON PATRONS ONTO THE STREETS WHERE OTHER BUSINESSES LIKE
00:29:49
RESTAURANTS AND RETAILERS MIGHT BE AFFECTED.
00:29:52
EVEN IN A COUNTRY LIKE JAPAN WHERE SMOKING IS NOT ALLOWED ON
00:29:54
CITY STREETS, SMOKING IS PERMITTED IN OUTDOOR BAR PATIOS
00:30:00
. IN A TIME WHEN THE CITY IS
00:30:01
STILL RECOVERING FROM THE ECONOMIC BLOW OF THE COVID
00:30:04
PANDEMIC, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS NEEDS TO BE
00:30:05
FOCUSING FOCUSING ITS PRIORITIES ON LEGISLATION THAT
00:30:08
ACTUALLY SERVES THE CITY AND ITS ECONOMY BY CREATING
00:30:11
AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND ADDRESSING STOREFRONT
00:30:13
VACANCIES. OUR BARS ARE SMALL BUSINESSES
00:30:16
THAT ARE THE EMPLOYERS TAX BASE AND FABRIC OF THE CITY'S
00:30:19
CULTURE. IF WE WANT TO KEEP SAN
00:30:20
FRANCISCO A CITY WORTH LIVING IN, PLEASE VOTE NO ON THE
00:30:23
PROPOSITION. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
00:30:25
NEXT SPEAKER POLICE FELLOW SUPERVISORS.
00:30:30
>> MY NAME'S GLENN MCLAUGHLIN AND I'M HERE TODAY AS AN
00:30:34
ENTHUSIASTIC BAR PATRON AND ALSO AN ORGANIZER WITH
00:30:37
SMALL BUSINESS FORWARD. AND I'M HERE TO ASK THAT YOU
00:30:41
WITHDRAW THIS BAN ON SMOKING ON OUR BAR PATIOS.
00:30:44
>> WHILE I APPRECIATE THE INTENTION BEHIND THE ORDINANCE,
00:30:47
I JUST CAN'T REALLY WRAP MY HEAD AROUND WHY THIS
00:30:49
LEGISLATURE IS A PRIORITY IN THE CITY.
00:30:52
I HEAR POLITICIANS PAY A LOT OF LIP SERVICE TO THEIR COMMITMENT
00:30:57
TO SUPPORTING SMALL BUSINESSES IN SAN FRANCISCO BUT THIS IS
00:31:00
SOMETHING THAT WILL UNEQUIVOCALLY HURT OUR SMALL
00:31:03
BUSINESSES AND THEIR STAFF WHO WORK THERE BOTH OF WHOM WILL
00:31:07
BEAR THE BRUNT OF BOTH THE ENFORCEMENT AND THE
00:31:11
PENALIZATION FROM THIS LEGISLATION WHICH SEEMS
00:31:12
PARTICULARLY UNFAIR. >> I THINK ALSO PEOPLE HAVE
00:31:16
ALREADY ADDRESSED THE FACT AROUND THAT LIKE IF YOU ARE
00:31:20
SOMEONE WHO LIKES SMOKING ON BAR PATIOS IF THAT'S NOT
00:31:24
ALLOWED YOU WILL CERTAINLY BE SMOKING ON THE STREETS IN FRONT
00:31:25
OF THOSE BARS WHICH ARE NEIGHBORS TO PARKLETS WHERE
00:31:29
PEOPLE ARE EATING THEIR DINNERS OUTSIDE.
00:31:32
AS OF RIGHT NOW THERE'S NO BAN ON SMOKING ON THE STREETS AND I
00:31:36
THINK THAT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT PIECE OF THIS PUZZLE AND I
00:31:40
THINK THAT'S A GOOD POINT. >> I ALSO WANT TO ADD THAT
00:31:41
THERE ARE OVER 20 BARS SIGNED ON TO THE PETITION RIGHT NOW
00:31:47
ALONG WITH THIS PETITION HAS BEEN CIRCULATING FOR ABOUT A
00:31:51
LITTLE OVER TWO WEEKS NOW AND THERE ARE 2000 496
00:31:54
SIGNATURES ON THAT PETITION. SO THIS IS CLEARLY SOMETHING
00:31:58
THAT SAN FRANCISCANS ARE FOLLOWING, THEY'RE PAYING
00:31:59
ATTENTION TO AND THEY'RE NOT IN SUPPORT OF.
00:32:03
>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
00:32:04
NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON SUPERVISORS.
00:32:07
MY NAME IS BOB GORDON. I'M SPEAKING AS A GAY MAN AS A
00:32:11
RESIDENT OF DISTRICT EIGHT IN THE CASTRO AND AS A
00:32:15
VOLUNTEER WITH AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY CANCER ACTION NETWORK
00:32:18
URGING YOU TO SUPPORT THIS ORDINANCE, THIS CLEAN AIR
00:32:21
ORDINANCE. SO I MOVED TO SAN FRANCISCO
00:32:24
IN 1993 AND IN 1993 RESTAURANTS WERE STILL SMOKE FILLED BUT IT
00:32:28
WASN'T LONG BEFORE ALL THE RESTAURANTS HAD TO CLEAN UP
00:32:32
THEIR AIR. I REMEMBER IT WELL SOME
00:32:33
RESTAURANTS REALLY PANICKED SAYING THAT CLEAN AIR WOULD
00:32:37
SOMEHOW PUT THEM OUT OF BUSINESS.
00:32:39
DIDN'T HAPPEN. IN 1998 SMOKEY BAR BARS HAD TO
00:32:42
CLEAN UP THEIR AIR. >> IT WASN'T EASY BUT AGAIN
00:32:46
SOME BAR OWNERS PANICKED SAYING THAT CLEAN AIR WOULD SOMEHOW
00:32:50
PUT THEM OUT OF BUSINESS AGAIN DIDN'T HAPPEN.
00:32:53
>> TODAY WE HEAR SOME BARS PANICKING.
00:32:57
SOME SAYING THAT THEY TRIED TO RESTRICT SMOKING IN THEIR
00:32:58
PATIOS THAT CLEAN AIR ON THEIR PATIOS WOULD SOMEHOW
00:33:01
UNEQUIVOCALLY HURT OUR BARS AS WAS HEARD TODAY.
00:33:06
>> IT'S ACTUALLY THE OPPOSITE AND WE KNOW THIS FROM DECADES
00:33:09
OF SMOKE FREE RESTAURANTS AND BARS.
00:33:12
CLEAN AIR ATTRACTS MORE BUSINESS.
00:33:13
A POLICY LIKE THIS ONE CREATES A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD.
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NO MORE DISCRIMINATION. SMOKE FREE BAR PATIOS MEAN THAT
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EVERYONE CAN ENJOY THE VIBE, THE MUSIC, THEIR FRIENDS.
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AND IF SOMEONE WANTS TO SMOKE THEY HEAD TO THE CURB TO SMOKE.
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EAGER TO COME BACK TO ENJOY THE VIBE THE MUSIC AND THEIR
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FRIENDS. HARMFUL CHEMICALS HAVE NO PLACE
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IN OUR CITY. DISCRIMINATION HAS NO PLACE
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IN OUR CITY. THERE SHOULD NO LONGER BE TOXIC
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EXPOSURE ON PATIOS PERIOD. CLEAN AIR CAN BE GOOD FOR
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BUSINESS. THANK YOU.
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THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. >> NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE.
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>> GOOD AFTERNOON. MEMBERS OF THE LAND USE
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COMMITTEE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP
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AND YOUR TIME TO DISCUSS SUPERVISOR MELGAR ORDINANCE.
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MY NAME IS JOHN MA. I'M A 32 YEAR RESIDENT OF SAN
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FRANCISCO. I'M A GENERAL SURGEON AT
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CHINESE HOSPITAL. I WAS THE 2018 PRESIDENT OF THE
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SAN FRANCISCO MARIN MEDICAL SOCIETY AND A PREVIOUS
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PRESIDENT OF THE AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION WHO BOTH SUPPORTED
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THIS LEGISLATION. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF
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THE MEDICAL SOCIETY WHO ARE ONE OF THE SPONSORS.
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I AGREE WITH THE DECISION TO CONTINUE BECAUSE I BELIEVE
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FURTHER EDUCATION AND FURTHER CONVERSATION WILL BE REALLY
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HELPFUL TO IDENTIFY WAYS TO HELP THE SMOKERS WHO ARE
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VISITING THESE BARS TO HELP THEM QUIT.
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>> I'M A SURGEON. I'VE SEEN THE HIDDEN COSTS TO
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SOCIETY FROM SMOKING THAT WE OFTEN DON'T DISCUSS WOUND
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INFECTIONS, FAILED OPERATIONS AS READMISSIONS TO THE HOSPITAL
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PROLONGED ICU STAY. THESE COST OUR NATIONS AND OUR
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NATION HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS ANNUALLY.
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IT'S BEEN ESTIMATED BY UCSF RESEARCHERS THAT THE COSTS OF
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SMOKING BURDEN OUR STATE BURDEN OUR CITY $500 PER RESIDENT
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AND NEARLY $5,000 PER SMOKER. OUR CITY HAS A VERY LONG
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HISTORY OF LEADING THE WAY IN TOBACCO CONTROL.
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WE LED THE EFFORTS TO END THE USE OF CHEWING TOBACCO AT
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ORACLE PARK AND MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL STADIUMS ALL ACROSS
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AMERICA TO SUPPORT THE TOBACCO TAX AND TO STOP THE SALES OF
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FLAVORED TOBACCO PRODUCTS AND TO REIN IN THE E-CIGARETTE
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INDUSTRY. WE'RE HERE NOW BECAUSE IN 2014
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SUPERVISOR ERIC MARTIN LED EFFORTS TO END SMOKING ON
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RESTAURANT PATIOS. >> THERE WAS AN EXEMPTION
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CREATED FOR BAR PATIOS BUT AFTERWARDS CITIES ALL AROUND US
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SURROUNDING US IN THE BAY AREA ADOPTED HIS MODEL ORDINANCE BUT
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ELIMINATED THIS LOOPHOLE AND EXEMPTION.
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I FULLY SUPPORT CLOSING THIS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR
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CONSIDERATION AND I HOPE THAT WE HAVE A VERY THOUGHTFUL
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CONVERSATION MOVING FORWARD ABOUT THE WAYS THAT WE CAN HELP
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SAN FRANCISCO QUIT SMOKING. >> THANK YOU.
00:35:46
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. NEXT PICK A PLACE.
00:35:49
>> KRISTEN EVANS FROM SMALL BUSINESS WORD.
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I WANT TO THANK DR. MEYER FOR ALSO THINKING ABOUT A DIFFERENT
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APPROACH TO HOW WE MIGHT APPROACH THE CHALLENGE OF
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SMOKING ON PATIOS AT THE SMALL BUSINESS COMMISSION LAST MONTH.
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>> THE SMALL BUSINESS COMMISSIONERS ALL VOICED A
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CONCERN ABOUT HOW THIS LEGISLATION CAME ABOUT AND HOW
00:36:08
THERE HAD BEEN A LACK OF OUTREACH AND AN OUTPOURING AN
00:36:12
OUTCRY FROM BAR OWNERS THAT HAD JUST RECENTLY BECOME AWARE OF
00:36:16
IT OF THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION. A LOT OF BARS HAVE BEEN REALLY
00:36:20
INNOVATIVE AND THINGS RELATED TO PUBLIC HEALTH PROVIDING
00:36:23
CONDOMS FOR HIV PREVENTION, LIDS FOR CUPS TO AVOID ROOFIES
00:36:31
,NARCAN DISTRIBUTION TO HELP PREVENT OVERDOSES.
00:36:35
WE CARE ABOUT OUR PATRONS AND WE WANT TO SEE HEALTH
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SOLUTIONS. BUT I DO THINK THIS ALSO NEEDS
00:36:43
TO BE BALANCED WITH VERY REAL BUSINESS PLANS.
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I DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR TO TO DISCOUNT WHAT THESE BAR OWNERS
00:36:50
ARE TELLING YOU THAT THERE'S A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF CLIENTELE
00:36:51
THAT COME TO THEIR BUSINESS TO USE THEIR PATIO FOR SMOKING.
00:36:57
THERE'S A ALSO ON THE SAME DOCKET OF THE SMALL BUSINESS
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COMMISSION. THERE WAS THE PROPOSAL TO ADD
00:37:05
CANNABIS CAFE LICENSES. AND SO ON ONE HAND THE CITY IS
00:37:09
SAYING LET'S JUST TO DISCOURAGE SMOKING.
00:37:12
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND IS ALSO PERMITTING AND LICENSING
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SMOKING IN CAFES AND INDOOR SPACES.
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SO I DO THINK THAT THERE'S A BALANCE TO BE STRUCK AND I
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APPRECIATE THAT WE MIGHT FIND A PATH FORWARD THAT BRINGS THE
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BUSINESSES ALONG AND ALSO DOES IT IN A WAY THAT WON'T HURT
00:37:30
THEM FINANCIALLY SO THAT THEY'LL BE FORCED TO CLOSE.
00:37:33
>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
00:37:35
NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE. GOOD AFTERNOON SUPERVISORS.
00:37:39
MY NAME IS AMANDA WEBB. I WANT TO EXPRESS MY SUPPORT
00:37:43
FOR THIS BAN. I'M A VOLUNTEER FOR AMERICAN
00:37:46
CANCER SOCIETY CANCER ACTION NETWORK AND A RESIDENT OF
00:37:49
DISTRICT FIVE AND I WANT TO REITERATE THAT THE CDC STATES
00:37:51
THAT THERE IS NO SAFE LEVEL OF EXPOSURE TO SECONDHAND SMOKE AS
00:37:57
A STAGE FOUR COLORECTAL CANCER SURVIVOR AND ONCE HAVING BEEN
00:38:01
IMMUNOCOMPROMISED IT TAKES LOGISTICS WHEN DETERMINING WHAT
00:38:06
IS A SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR SOMEONE IN THAT SITUATION AND I
00:38:09
SUPPORT THIS BAN TO ELIMINATE THAT BARRIER AND MAKE IT AN
00:38:13
EQUAL PLAYING FIELD FOR ALL. THANK YOU.
00:38:16
>> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. DO WE HAVE ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS
00:38:17
PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS AGENDA ITEM?
00:38:20
>> MADAM CHAIR. OKAY.
00:38:21
WITHOUT PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS ITEM IS NOW CLOSED.
00:38:24
COLLEAGUES, AS YOU COULD HEAR FOR PUBLIC COMMENT PEOPLE FEEL
00:38:28
VERY DIFFERENTLY ON THIS ISSUE. I DO THINK THAT THERE CAN BE A
00:38:35
PATH FORWARD THAT NEGOTIATES TIMING, DEFINITIONS,
00:38:40
ENFORCEMENT, ALL OF THESE THINGS.
00:38:43
I DON'T WANT TO WITHDRAW THIS LEGISLATION BECAUSE I THINK IT
00:38:48
IS A LEGITIMATE PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUE.
00:38:51
I UNDERSTAND THAT IT WILL AFFECT THE BUSINESS PLANS OF
00:38:56
BUSINESSES AND I DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO HARM BUSINESSES.
00:39:03
I ALSO THINK THAT WE LIVE IN A SEVEN BY SEVEN SQUARE MILE CITY
00:39:07
THAT IS VERY DENSE WITH RENT CONTROLLED UNITS ABOVE MANY OF
00:39:14
THESE PATIOS WHERE PEOPLE REALLY DON'T HAVE A CHOICE
00:39:17
WHETHER TO MOVE BECAUSE WE ARE IN ONE OF THE MOST EXPENSIVE
00:39:19
CITIES IN THE COUNTRY WHERE GIVING UP YOUR RENT CONTROL
00:39:25
DEPARTMENT IS ACTUALLY A BIG DEAL.
00:39:25
SO I THINK THAT THERE'S MULTIPLE POINTS AT WHICH PEOPLE
00:39:30
CAN HAVE DIFFERENT INTERESTS, DESIRES, DREAMS, HOPES.
00:39:34
I TOTALLY GET THAT AND FOR US IN THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH
00:39:38
THAT'S OUR JOB IS TO COME UP WITH A PATH FORWARD THAT WEIGHS
00:39:42
THE DIFFERENT DREAMS, HOPES AND DESIRES OF CONSTITUENTS
00:39:49
IN OUR CITY. AND I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE
00:39:52
WHO CAME FROM THE COMMUNITY FOR HER THE BUSINESS OWNERS WHO ARE
00:39:57
WORRIED ABOUT YOUR BUSINESSES. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
00:40:02
SUPPORT YOU BUT ALSO THAT WE SUPPORT THE PUBLIC HEALTH
00:40:06
AND THE FOLKS WHO HAVE NOT GIVEN THEIR CONSENT TO
00:40:09
BREATHING SMOKE WHEN THEY CAN'T GET AWAY FROM IT.
00:40:13
SO I THINK BOTH THINGS MAY BE POSSIBLE AND WE WILL CONTINUE
00:40:17
WORKING ON IT. SO THEREFORE, COLLEAGUES, I ASK
00:40:20
THAT YOU SUPPORT ME IN MAKING THIS MOTION TO CONTINUE THIS
00:40:25
ITEM TO THE JUNE 8TH MEETING AND WE AND I YOU KNOW, GLADLY
00:40:32
WELCOME THE HELP FROM MY COLLEAGUES WHO HAVE OFFERED
00:40:36
HELP TO TRY TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER AND COME UP WITH SOME
00:40:39
AMENDMENTS. >> MR. CLERK.
00:40:43
>> A MOTION OFFERED BY THE CHAIR THAT THE ORDINANCE BE
00:40:44
CONTINUED TO THE JUNE 8TH, 2026 MEETING OF THIS COMMITTEE.
00:40:47
ON THAT MOTION, VICE CHAIR CHEN CHEN I REMEMBER MAHMOOD MAHMOOD
00:40:51
I CHAIR MELGAR I MELGAR I AND I'M SURE THERE ARE THREE
00:40:55
EYES THAT MOTION PASSES MR. CLERK IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE ON
00:40:59
OUR AGENDA? >> THERE IS NO FURTHER
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BUSINESS. WE'RE ADJOURNED.
00:41:01
THANK YOU