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. >> GOOD MORNING.
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MEETING WILL COME TO ORDER. WELCOME TO THE SEPTEMBER 17TH
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2026 REGULAR MEETING OF THE GOVERNMENT AUDIT AND OVERSIGHT
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COMMITTEE OF THE SAN FRANCISCO BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
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I'M SUPERVISOR STEPHEN SHERYL CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE JOINED
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TODAY BY VICE CHAIR SUPERVISOR JACKIE FIELDER AND SUPERVISOR
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ALAN WONG. >> OUR COMMITTEE CLERK TODAY IS
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MONIQUE CREIGHTON AND THANK YOU TO JAMES CO-OWNERS OF S.F. GOV
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TV FOR STAFFING THIS MEETING TODAY.
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WE'RE GOING TO KEEP PUBLIC COMMENT AT ONE MINUTE MADAM
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CLERK DO YOU HAVE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS?
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>> YES PUBLIC COMMENT WILL BE TAKEN ON EACH ITEM ON THIS
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AGENDA WHEN YOUR ITEM OF INTEREST COMES UP IN PUBLIC
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COMMENT IS CALLED PLEASE LINE UP TO SPEAK ON YOUR RIGHT.
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ALTERNATIVELY YOU MAY SUBMIT PUBLIC COMMENT IN WRITING
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IN EITHER OF THE FOLLOWING WAYS EMAIL THEM TO THE GOVERNMENT OR
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AN OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE CLERK AT EM ALL IN IQ U E DOT C R H P T
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O N S F G OF FOR G IF YOU CAN SUBMIT PUBLIC COMMENT VIA EMAIL
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BE FORWARDED TO THE SUPERVISORS AND ALSO INCLUDED AS PART OF
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THE OFFICIAL WHILE NOW SOLICITING A WRITTEN COMMENTS
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VIA U.S. POSTAL SERVICE OR OFFICE IN CITY HALL NUMBER ONE
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DR. CARLETON PLACE ROOM 244 SAN FRANCISCO CALIFORNIA NINE FOR 1
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OR 2. >> IF YOU HAVE DOCUMENTS YOU
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WOULD LIKE TO BE INCLUDED AS PART OF THE FILE PLEASE SUBMIT
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THEM TO ME BEFORE THE END OF THE MEETING.
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PLEASE MAKE SURE TO SILENCE ALL CELL PHONES AND ELECTRONIC
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DEVICES TO PREVENT ANY INTERRUPTIONS TO TODAY'S
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PROCEEDINGS. FINALLY, ITEMS AFTER THE PUN
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TODAY ARE EXPECTED TO APPEAR ON THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AGENDA
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OF SEPTEMBER 29TH 2026 UNLESS OTHERWISE STATED.
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THANK YOU MADAM CLERK. CAN YOU PLEASE CALL ITEM NUMBER
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ONE? >> YES.
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ITEM NUMBER ONE IT IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE
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ADMINISTRATE OF CODE TO ELIMINATE STATEMENT OF
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INTENTION DISCLOSURE AND REPORTING REQUIREMENTS FOR
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CANDIDATES SEEKING ELECTION TO THE RETIREMENT BOARD HEALTH
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SERVICE BOARD AND RETIREE HEALTH CARE TRUST FUND BOARD
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ELIMINATE THIRD PARTY DISCLOSURE REQUIREMENTS FOR
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PERSONS OR ENTITIES. >> MAKE AN INDEPENDENT
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EXPENDITURES TO SUPPORT OR OPPOSE SUCH CANDIDATES
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AND DELETE CORRESPONDING TRAINING, AUDIT AND ENFORCEMENT
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PROVISIONS. >> THANK YOU.
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TODAY WE ARE JOINED I BELIEVE BY GRACE FONG FROM PRESIDENT
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RAFAEL MENEM. HIS OFFICE IS A PRIMARY
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CO-SPONSOR OF THIS LEGISLATION AND I BELIEVE MICHAEL CANNING
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FROM THE ETHICS COMMISSION IS ALSO HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
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>> THANK YOU BOTH. THIS ONE GO AHEAD.
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THANK YOU, CHAIR CHERYL GOOD MORNING CHAIR CHERYL VICE CHAIR
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FIELDER AND SUPERVISOR WANG MY NAME IS RUTH HONG AND I'M HERE
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TODAY ON BEHALF OF PRESIDENT MIDDLEMEN.
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THE ITEM BEFORE YOU CURRENTLY IS AN ORDINANCE DISCONTINUING
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CAMPAIGN REPORTING REQUIREMENTS CURRENTLY IMPOSED ON CANDIDATES
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FOR THE RETIREMENT BOARD, THE HEALTH SERVICE BOARD AND THE
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RETIREE HEALTH CARE TRUST FUND BOARD.
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BY WAY OF BACKGROUND, THESE THREE BOARDS HELP MANAGE
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RETIREMENT AND HEALTH CARE BENEFITS FOR CURRENT AND FORMER
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CITY EMPLOYEES AND EACH IS LED IN PART BY TRUSTEES THAT ARE
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ELECTED BY CURRENT AND FORMER CITY EMPLOYEES.
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THESE ARE NOT PUBLIC ELECTIONS IN THE TRADITIONAL SENSE
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ALTHOUGH THEY ARE ADMINISTERED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF ELECTIONS
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. THESE CANDIDATES ARE NOT
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TECHNICALLY CONSIDERED CANDIDATES UNDER THE POLITICAL
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REFORM ACT OR THE CITY'S CAMPAIGN AND GOVERNMENTAL
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CONDUCT CODE IN 2018 FOLLOWING A PARTICULARLY CONTENTIOUS
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RETIREE HEALTH CARE TRUST FUND BOARD ELECTION, THE
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ADMINISTRATIVE CODE WAS AMENDED TO IMPOSE REGISTRATION
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DISCLOSURE AND TERMINATION FILING REQUIREMENTS ON
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CANDIDATES AND THIRD PARTY SPENDERS IN THESE ELECTIONS.
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THESE REQUIREMENTS WERE ESSENTIALLY COPIED FROM THE
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LANGUAGE FROM THE CAMPAIGN AND GOVERNMENTAL CONDUCT CODE
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AGAINST ETHICS COMMISSIONS RECOMMENDATIONS AT THE TIME.
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>> THE PROPOSAL BEFORE YOU TODAY COMES FROM THE ETHICS
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COMMISSION'S OWN REVIEW OF HOW THE PROGRAM HAS FUNCTIONED
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SINCE 2018. >> PRESIDENT MAILMAN INTRODUCED
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THE LEGISLATION LAST SEPTEMBER AND THIS ITEM WAS PREVIOUSLY
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HEARD IN THIS COMMITTEE ALONGSIDE TWO OTHER PIECES OF
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LEGISLATION OUR OFFICE WORKED ON WITH THE ETHICS COMMITTEE
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EARLIER THIS YEAR. TODAY WE'RE JUST MOVING FORWARD
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WITH THIS ONE SINCE THESE REQUIREMENTS TOOK EFFECT, THE
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OTHER COMMISSION FOUND THAT ONLY SEVEN CANDIDATES HAVE EVER
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REGISTERED AND FILED DISCLOSURES.
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OF THOSE ONLY ONE HAS EVER REPORTED RAISING MONEY JUST
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$78.60 AND THERE HAS BEEN NO THIRD PARTY SPENDING REPORTED
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AT ALL. WE VERY LIMITED FINANCIAL
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ACTIVITIES SUGGEST THAT THESE REQUIREMENTS ARE MORE
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COMPLICATED AND BURDENSOME THAN NECESSARY.
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GIVEN THAT CANDIDATES FOR THESE RACES RARELY RAISE OR SPEND ANY
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MONEY, THE REQUIREMENTS ALSO PUT TRUSTEE CANDIDATES UNDER
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STRICTER RULES AND CANDIDATES FOR THE MAYOR OR BOARD OF
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SUPERVISORS. CITY CANDIDATES DON'T HAVE TO
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OPEN A BANK ACCOUNT OR FILE A STATEMENT OF ORGANIZATION
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UNLESS THEY EXPECT TO RAISE OR SPEND $2,000 OR MORE.
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TRUSTEE CANDIDATES ON THE OTHER END HAVE TO OPEN A BANK ACCOUNT
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EVEN IF THEY DON'T PLAN TO RAISE OR SPEND A SINGLE DOLLAR
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. THAT CAN MEAN CANDIDATES HAVING
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TO PAY BANK FEES OUT OF POCKET FOR AN ACCOUNT THAT NEVER GETS
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USED. >> THESE REQUIREMENTS ALSO
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CREATE A REAL ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN FOR ETHICS STAFF WHO
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SPEND TIME HELPING CANDIDATES NAVIGATE A COMPLIANCE PROCESS
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THAT RARELY INVOLVES ANY ACTUAL CAMPAIGN ACTIVITY AT A TIME
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WHEN CITY RESOURCES ARE INCREASINGLY STRETCHED, IT IS
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WORTH CONSIDERING WHETHER THE STAFF TIME AND RESOURCES
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REQUIRED BY THIS PROGRAM ARE JUSTIFIED.
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THE ETHICS COMMISSION DOES OTHER IMPORTANT WORK TO PROMOTE
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TRANSPARENCY, ACCOUNTABILITY AND INTEGRITY IN GOVERNMENT
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AND ITS RESOURCES ARE BETTER FOCUSED ON PROGRAMS
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AND REQUIREMENTS THAT HAVE A MEANINGFUL IMPACT ON BEHALF OF
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PRESIDENT MIDDLEMEN. >> I WANT TO THANK MICHAEL
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CANNON POLICY AND LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS MANAGER PATRICK FORD,
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EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE ETHICS COMMISSION AND THE
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ETHICS COMMISSION STAFF AS A WHOLE FOR THEIR WORK ON THIS
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LEGISLATION. >> AS TRICIA SAID, MICHAEL IS
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HERE TODAY AND WE ARE AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT
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YOU MAY HAVE. >> CHURCHILL VICE CHAIR FIELDER
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AND SUPERVISOR WANG I RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR
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SUPPORT IN RECOMMENDING THIS ORDINANCE.
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>> THANK YOU, MS. WONG. >> VICE CHAIR FIELDER THANKS,
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CHAIR. JUST A QUESTION DOES THIS
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LEGISLATION ELIMINATE THE FORM 700 THAT THAT THESE CANDIDATES
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SLASHED ON CANDIDATES WOULD HAVE TO FILE?
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>> THAT IS A GOOD QUESTION THAT I'M GOING TO THROW OVER TO
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MICHAEL. >> THANK YOU.
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>> FOR THE RECORD, MICHAEL CANNING POLICY AND LEGISLATIVE
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AFFAIRS MANAGER FOR THE ETHICS COMMISSION.
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YES IT WOULD. THE FORMS OF FILING FROM THAT
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SECTION AS WELL. >> OKAY.
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I DEFINITELY HAVE CONCERNS OVER THAT.
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SEEING THAT THIS RETIREMENT BOARD IS WHERE THEIR
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JURISDICTION IS OVER BILLIONS OF DOLLARS, I DO THINK IT MAKES
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SENSE TO HAVE THEM FILE FORM SEVEN HUNDREDS.
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I DON'T I DON'T THINK IT'S REASONABLE FOR THEM TO OPEN A
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BANK ACCOUNT. SO THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING OVER
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WITH RIGHT NOW. >> OKAY.
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>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THIS
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FORWARD TO THE BOARD WITH POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION.
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>> MADAM CLERK, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
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MR. SHAW, DO YOU WANT TO OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT?
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>> I'M SO SORRY. PLEASE OPEN UP FOR PUBLIC
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COMMENT. >> SURE.
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MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH CITED MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO
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WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM SHOULD LINE THEM NOW ON THE
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SIDE BY THE BY THE WINDOWS. >> ALL SPEAKERS WILL HAVE ONE
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MINUTE. HELLO SUPERVISOR.
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MY NAME IS FRED SANCHEZ. I'M RETIRED DEPUTY CHIEF OF THE
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SAN FRANCISCO FIRE DEPARTMENT. ALSO PRESIDENT OF PROTECT OUR
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BENEFITS. >> AS A RETIRED CITY WORKER
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AND A CURRENT PRESIDENT OF PROTECT THE BENEFITS AN
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ORGANIZATION IS, OUR MISSION IS TO PROTECT THE PENSIONS AND THE
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HEALTH BENEFITS FOR ALL SAN FRANCISCO RETIREES.
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>> TODAY I'M STRONGLY IN OPPOSITION TO THIS
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ORDINANCE. THE RETIREMENT SYSTEM
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AND HEALTH SERVICE BOARD OVERSEES BILLIONS OF DOLLARS
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IN PUBLIC ASSETS AND MASSIVE HEALTH CARE CONTRACTS.
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THOSE FUNDS REPRESENT A LITERAL LIFELINE FOR THOUSANDS OF
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FAMILIES WHO ARE DEDICATED THEIR CAREERS TO THE CITY
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BECAUSE OF THE AMOUNT OF MONEY INVOLVED.
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>> THESE BOARDS ARE PRIME TARGETS FOR MONEY INVOLVED.
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BOARD MEMBERS GET LOBBIED REALLY HARD BY DARK MONEY.
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>> IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE THE QUALIFICATIONS SET
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FORTH BY PEOPLE RUNNING FOR THESE BOARDS.
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THEY HAVE TO HAVE A FINANCIAL BACKGROUND SOME DEGREE
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IN ACCOUNTING OR SOMETHING. >> IT'S ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY,
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GERRI, THAT THESE ARE KEEP IT THE WAY IT IS.
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>> I MEAN YOU'VE NOT CONSULTED ANY OF THE PEOPLE FROM THE
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RETIREMENT BOARD AND THEY WILL TELL YOU THAT THIS IS AN
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ABSOLUTE TRAVESTY. >> YOU'RE DOING AWAY WITH
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TRANSPARENCY FROM YOUR COMMENTS .
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>> DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM?
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HI, MY NAME IS TERESA PALMER, M.D. I'M A RETIRED PHYSICIAN
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FROM LAGUNA HONDA AND VICE PRESIDENT OF PROTECT OUR
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BENEFITS. >> IF YOU NEED TO SIMPLIFY THE
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PAPERWORK, CREATE AN ORDINANCE TO DO SO BUT DO NOT OPEN THE
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SYSTEM TO THOSE WHO WILL NOT ETHICALLY AND ABLY ADVOCATE FOR
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THEIR FELLOW WORKERS. >> PLEASE VOTE.
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DO NOT APPROVE THIS ORDINANCE. IT REMOVES ALL THE GUARDRAILS
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ON THE BRIDGE FOR CORRUPTION AND CRONYISM.
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>> THESE PEOPLE ARE REPRESENTING BILLIONS OF
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DOLLARS AN IMPORTANT HEALTH INSURANCE IDEA OF YOU CANNOT
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JUST CRASH THROUGH ALL THE MONITORING AND OVERSIGHT.
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PLEASE DO NOT APPROVE THIS. THIS IS NOT IN THE BEST
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INTEREST OF CITY EMPLOYEES AND RETIRED CITY EMPLOYEES.
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THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS
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. >> NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE.
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AND MICHAEL CANNING POLICY LEGISLATIVE AFFAIRS MANAGER FOR
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THE ETHICS COMMISSION. I JUST WANTED TO ON BEHALF OF
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THE COMMISSION THANK THE COMMITTEE FOR TAKING THIS ITEM
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UP AND ALSO TO SUPERVISOR FIELDER'S POINT IF THERE'S A
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DESIRE TO HAVE THESE TRUSTEES FILE THE FORM 700 THEY COULD
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POTENTIALLY BE PUT INTO THE CAMPAIGN AND GOVERNMENTAL CODE
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SECTION OR OTHER FORMS OF 100 FILERS ARE LOCATED AND THAT WAY
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THOSE POSITIONS COULD BE PART OF THAT DISCLOSURE REGIME.
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THERE'S ALREADY LEGISLATION FROM THE BIENNIAL CODE REVIEW
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THAT HAPPENS EVERY TWO YEARS TO ADD POSITIONS TO THE FORM 700
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FILING LIST THAT THOSE PEOPLE COULD POTENTIALLY BE ADDED TO
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AS AN OPTION TO RETAIN THE FORM 700 ELEMENT OF DISCLOSURES.
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>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
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DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM?
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>> MR. CHAIR, THAT COMPLETES PUBLIC COMMENT.
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STIMULUS SPEAKER'S PUBLIC COMMENTS CLOSED.
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SUPERVISOR WONG I'VE GOT I GOT A FEW QUESTIONS MAYBE FOR THE
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ETHICS COMMISSION FOLKS. >> SO FOR THE FORM SEVEN
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HUNDREDS, ARE THE TRUSTEE STILL REQUIRED TO FILE FORM SEVEN
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HUNDREDS UNDER THE CONFLICT OF INTEREST CODE EVEN IF THEY
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DON'T FILE DURING THE CANDIDATE STAGE?
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>> I DO NOT BELIEVE THEY'RE IN THE CODE SECTION.
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>> RIGHT. AND TO DOUBLE CHECK ON THAT.
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OKAY. >> AND THEN AT THE DEPARTMENT'S
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LEVEL ARE THEY ABLE TO IF NEED DECIDE TO INCLUDE ANY SORT OF
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ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS CAN THE DEPARTMENT ON ITS OWN WITHOUT A
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FILE ORDINANCE HAVE SOME SORT OF CANDIDATE INTENTION
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STATEMENT? >> YEAH I BELIEVE THERE
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WOULDN'T BE ANY RESTRICTION ON THAT THAT I SO THE DEPARTMENT
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CAN MAKE SUCH A SUCH A SUGGESTION BECAUSE IT ON ONE
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HAND IT'S NICE TO HAVE LESS BURDENSOME RULES ON THE OTHER
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HAND IF PEOPLE ARE RUNNING FOR FOR SOMETHING I MEAN PEOPLE
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PROBABLY WANT TO BE ABLE TO READ A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE
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CANDIDACIES ELIMINATE ANY SORT OF ANY SORT OF SAY JUST EVEN A
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SO WE HAVE OUR VOTER PAMPHLET STATEMENT AS SOME SUPERVISORS
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IS THERE'S SOMETHING THAT IS STILL AVAILABLE FOR FOR PEOPLE
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THAT ARE WRITING TO SHARE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEMSELVES
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AND I BELIEVE THERE THERE'S STILL AS PART OF THAT THROUGH
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THE DEPARTMENT ELECTIONS PROCESSES MEAN I DON'T THINK
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THERE'S ANY RESTRICTION THAT I'M AWARE OF ON THE INDIVIDUAL
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ENTITIES REQUIRING ADDITIONAL DOCUMENTS FOR THOSE THAT ARE
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RUNNING BUT MAY DEFER TO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE ON IF
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THERE ARE RESTRICTIONS ON WHAT THOSE ENTITIES CAN DO.
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>> DO WE KNOW IF THERE'S AN INTENTION ON THE PART OF THE
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DEPARTMENT ELECTIONS TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S SOME SORT OF
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INFORMATION ABOUT THE THE CANDIDATES THAT TO BE POSTED
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WHEN THEY SEND OUT THE BALLOTS ?
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I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT BUT THE TO OF ELECTIONS REQUIRES ON
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THAT. >> GOT IT.
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AND THEN I GUESS THIS MIGHT BE A CITY ATTORNEY QUESTION FOR
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THE FORM 700 REQUIREMENTS WHAT'S THE UNDERSTANDING ON THE
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REQUIRED AND SO THIS WOULD ELIMINATE THE AT THE CANDIDATE
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STAGE FOR THEM TO DO FORM 700. WOULD THEY ALSO WOULD THEY
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STILL BE REQUIRED TO FILE IT BY VIRTUE OF LATER ON ASSUMING THE
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ASSUMING THE ROLE AS A TRUSTEE BECAUSE WE HAVE COMMISSIONERS
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AND OTHER PEOPLE IN THESE POSITIONS ARE ALREADY REQUIRED
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BY VIRTUE OF ASSUMPTION OF THE POSITION EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE
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NOT A CANDIDATE. SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS
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ELIMINATES THE CANDIDATE REQUIREMENT BUT IT DOESN'T
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NECESSARILY ELIMINATE THE THE ASSUMPTION OF OFFICE
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REQUIREMENT. >> DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY BRAD
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RUSTY YES, YOU'RE CORRECT SUPERVISOR THAT MEMBERS OF
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THESE BOARDS WOULD BE REQUIRED TO FILE ASSUMING OFFICE FORM
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SEVEN HUNDREDS AND ANNUAL FORM SEVEN HUNDREDS WHILE THEY ARE
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SERVING. >> OKAY.
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GOT IT. AND DO WE HAVE ANY
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REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF ELECTIONS TO
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SHARE? OKAY.
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IT LOOKS LIKE WE DON'T THOSE ARE MY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.
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>> THANK YOU. THANK YOU.
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SUPERVISOR WANG IN LIGHT OF THE QUESTIONS FROM MY COLLEAGUES I
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THINK I MIGHT WITHDRAW MY MOTION IF THAT'S OKAY TO
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FORWARD THIS WITH POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION.
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INSTEAD MAKE A MOTION TO FORWARD US TO THE FULL BOARD
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WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION FOUR IS THAT MORE COMFORTABLE FOR ALL
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OF YOU? >> RIGHT MADAM CHAIR, IF YOU
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PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> YES.
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AND ON A MOTION TO FORWARD THIS ITEM TO THE FULL BOARD WITHOUT
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RECOMMENDATION REMEMBER WONG REMEMBER WONG.
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I LIKE YOUR FIELDER. FISCHER.
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FIELDER. I CHAIR CHERYL.
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>> HI. SURE.
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CHERYL, I HAVE THREE EYES. >> THANK YOU.
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THE MOTION PASSES. >> CAN YOU PLEASE CALL ITEM
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NUMBER TWO? YES.
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ITEM NUMBER TWO IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE EXECUTIVE
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DIRECTOR COMMISSIONERS AND THE DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF THE FILM
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COMMISSION TO SOLICIT DONATIONS AND IN-KIND SUPPORT FROM THE
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SAN FRANCISCO TRAVEL ASSOCIATION AND HOTELS TO
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PROMOTE SAN FRANCISCO AS A FILM AND MEDIA PRODUCTION
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DESTINATION AND TO SUPPORT THE LOCAL FILM AND MEDIA COMMUNITY
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THROUGH MARKETING AND IN ADVANCE FOR SIX MONTHS
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NOTWITHSTANDING THE BEHEST AT PAYMENT ORDINANCE.
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THANK YOU. TODAY WE'RE JOINED BY MOVE
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SKELLY FROM BOARD PRESIDENT MANDELL MEANS OFFICE WAS A
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PRIMARY SPONSOR OF THIS LEGISLATION AND I APOLOGIZE
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AHEAD OF TIME I'M GOING TO TRY REALLY HARD HERE MANAGER FATA
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FROM PHIL MYSELF I'M SORRY IF I BUTCHERED YOUR NAME THERE IS
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AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AND I BELIEVE I CAN FOR MYSELF.
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TRAVEL MAY ALSO BE HERE AS WELL.
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>> MISKELLY TAKE IT AWAY. GREAT THANK YOU SO MUCH CHAIR
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CHERYL VICE CHAIR FIELDER AND SUPERVISOR WANG MY NAME IS
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MAGE SKELLY. I'M A LEGISLATIVE AIDE FOR
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PRESIDENT RAFAEL RANDLEMAN THE ITEM BEFORE YOU TODAY IS A
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HOSTED PAYMENT WAIVER RESOLUTION TO ALLOW PHIL MYSELF
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TO PARTNER MORE CLOSELY WITH THE SAN FRANCISCO TRAVEL
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ASSOCIATION AND AND OUR LOCAL HOTEL INDUSTRY.
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>> OUR FILM INDUSTRY DEPENDS ON PARTNERS ACROSS THE CITY WHO
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HELP US MARKET SAN FRANCISCO AS A PREMIERE DESTINATION FOR
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FILM, TELEVISION AND MEDIA PRODUCTION.
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SAN FRANCISCO TRAVEL IS ONE OF THOSE PARTNERS AND OUR HOTELS
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ARE TOO. THEY WANT TO INVEST
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IN PROMOTING SAN FRANCISCO AS A FILMING DESTINATION AND FILM
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ITSELF WANTS TO WORK WITH THEM .
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>> HOWEVER, SINCE SAN FRANCISCO TRAVEL OBTAINS FILM PERMITS
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THROUGH THE FILM COMMISSION IT IS CLASSIFIED AS A RESTRICTED
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SOURCE. SO FILM ITSELF IS LIMITED
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IN ITS ABILITY TO SOLICIT OR ACCEPT IN-KIND SUPPORT EVEN
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THOUGH PROMOTING SAN FRANCISCO AS A FILM DESTINATION IS A
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SHARED OBJECTIVE. THE SAME IS TRUE OF HOTELS A
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LOCAL HOTEL RECENTLY APPROACHED FILM STAFF WANTING TO HOST A
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FILM INDUSTRY MIXER BUT BECAUSE THAT HOTEL OBTAINED A PERMIT TO
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THE FILM S.F. OFFICE SO MYSELF IS UNABLE TO SOLICIT OR ACCEPT
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THAT KIND OF SUPPORT WITHOUT A WAIVER THIS WAIVER WOULD
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AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, COMMISSIONERS
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AND STAFF TO SOLICIT DONATIONS AND IN-KIND SUPPORT FROM SAN
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FRANCISCO TRAVEL AND HOTELS FOR A LIMITED SIX MONTH PERIOD TO
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SUPPORT FILM ASSETS, MARKETING AND INDUSTRY ENGAGEMENT
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EFFORTS. >> MARKETING SAN FRANCISCO AS A
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PREMIERE PRODUCTION DESTINATION IS CRUCIAL TO ATTRACTING FILM,
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TELEVISION AND MEDIA PROJECTS THAT CREATE JOBS, GENERATE
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LOCAL SPENDING AND SHOWCASE TO THE CITY AUDIENCES AROUND THE
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WORLD HOSTING INDUSTRY EVENTS, BUILDING RELATIONSHIPS WITH
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PRODUCTIONS AND GETTING THE WORD OUT THAT SAN FRANCISCO IS
00:16:56
OPEN FOR BUSINESS CAN HELP BRING FILM, TELEVISION
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AND MEDIA PROJECTS HERE AND WITH THEM THE JOBS
00:17:00
AND SPENDING THAT FOLLOW SPONSORSHIP AND IN-KIND
00:17:04
CONTRIBUTIONS LIKE THESE ALLOW THE FILM COMMISSION TO EXPAND
00:17:05
ITS MARKETING AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WORK WITHOUT RELYING
00:17:08
SOLELY ON CITY FUNDS. ON BEHALF OF PRESIDENT
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RANDLEMAN I WANT TO THANK MY PARTNER FROM THE FILM S.F.
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AND LAUREN CURRY FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE FOR THEIR
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WORK ON THIS LEGISLATION. MAHONEY IS HERE TODAY TO ANSWER
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FURTHER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE I
00:17:23
ASK THAT YOU FORWARD THIS ITEM TO THE FULL BOARD WITH POSITIVE
00:17:25
RECOMMENDATION. >> THANK YOU.
00:17:29
THANK YOU. I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS FROM
00:17:37
COLLEAGUES SO CAN WE PLEASE OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT?
00:17:41
>> YES. MEMBERS OF THE OF THE PUBLIC
00:17:42
WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM SHALL LINE UP NOW ALONG THE
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SIDE BY THE WINDOWS. >> ALL SPEAKERS WILL HAVE ONE
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MINUTE. ALL RIGHT.
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GOOD MORNING, CHAIR CHERYL SUPERVISOR FIELDER.
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>> SUPERVISOR WANG MY NAME IS IKHWAN WITH THE SAN FRANCISCO
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TRAVEL ASSOCIATION. FILM AND TELEVISION ARE
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POWERFUL FORMS OF DESTINATION MARKETING AS A SOMEONE NOT FROM
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SAN FRANCISCO I GREW UP WATCHING THE STREETS OF SAN
00:18:08
FRANCISCO IN OTHER MOVIES WHERE GOLDEN GATE BRIDGE WAS FEATURED
00:18:14
OR THE PAINTED LADIES. SO WHEN SAN FRANCISCO APPEARS
00:18:15
ON SCREEN, AUDIENCES AROUND THE WORLD SEE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS
00:18:20
LANDMARKS, HOTELS, RESTAURANTS AND CULTURAL ATTRACTIONS THAT
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VISIBILITY CAN COMPLEMENT THE WORK WE DO EVERY DAY TO PROMOTE
00:18:27
SAN FRANCISCO AS A DESTINATION. THE OPPORTUNITY CURRENTLY UNDER
00:18:30
DISCUSSION WITH US IS AN IN-KIND COLLABORATION
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PARTICULARLY MARKETING CONTENT AND OTHER DESTINATION
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PROMOTIONAL SUPPORT WHERE OUR MISSIONS CLEARLY INTERSECT.
00:18:39
WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THE WAIVER PROVIDES FLEXIBILITY FOR
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OTHER FORMS OF SUPPORT AND IN FUTURE REQUESTS FOR DIRECT
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FINANCIAL SUPPORT FROM S.F. TRAVEL WOULD BE CONSIDERED ALSO
00:18:49
ON THE BENEFIT FOR OUR VISITOR ECONOMY AND ORGANIZATIONAL
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PRIORITIES. >> THANK YOU.
00:18:54
THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL
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SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM? >> MR. CHAIR THAT COMPLETES
00:19:03
PUBLIC COMMENT. THANK YOU.
00:19:04
SEEING OTHER SPEAKERS PUBLIC COMMENTS NOW CLOSED BY CHAIR
00:19:07
FIELDER THANK YOU. I JUST REALLY QUICKLY WANTED TO
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NOTE THAT I APPRECIATE HOW SPECIFIC THIS WAIVER IS
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IDENTIFYING THE INTERESTED PARTY TO BE SOLICITED
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AND DESCRIBING A VERY SPECIFIC PURPOSE FOR THE WAIVER
00:19:26
AND IDENTIFYING EACH OF THE PERSONS WHO WOULD BE SUBJECT TO
00:19:31
THE WAIVER. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK.
00:19:34
>> MS.. SKELLY AND I'M HAPPY TO SUPPORT
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GREAT. I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO FOR THIS TO
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THE FULL BOARD WITH POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION.
00:19:46
>> MADAM CLERK CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
00:19:47
YES AND ON THE MOTION TO FORWARD THIS RESOLUTION TO THE
00:19:51
FULL BOARD WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION.
00:19:53
>> REMEMBER WONG REMEMBER REMEMBER WONG?
00:19:54
I LIKE YOUR FILTER LIKE YOUR FILTER.
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I SHOW CHERYL. >> I SAW CHERYL.
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I HAVE THREE EYES. THANK YOU.
00:20:03
THE MOTION PASSES. OKAY.
00:20:09
THE REASON WE'RE ALL HERE TODAY THAT'S NOT TRUE.
00:20:10
MANY OF US ARE HERE TODAY. CIVIL GRAND JURIES.
00:20:16
THIS IS A BIG DAY. CIVIL GRAND JURY PUT A LOT OF
00:20:20
WORK IN FIVE REPORTS COMING UP THAT THEY'VE WORKED ON OVER THE
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LAST YEAR. >> I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO
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RECOGNIZE THAT THE CIVIL GRAND JURY PUT IN AT LEAST 500 HOURS,
00:20:30
PROBABLY MORE ON THESE REPORTS URGING CREDIBLY HARD WERE
00:20:34
INCREDIBLY DILIGENT AND THESE ARE JUST SAN FRANCISCO
00:20:37
RESIDENTS WHO DEDICATE THEIR TIME TO CRITICAL ISSUES THAT
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MAY NOT OTHERWISE RECEIVE ATTENTION.
00:20:45
SO TODAY I JUST WANT TO THANK AHEAD OF TIME ALL THE MEMBERS
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OF THE CIVIL GRAND JURY WHO REALLY PUT A LOT OF I DON'T
00:20:52
LOVE BLOOD BUT AT LEAST SWEAT AND PROBABLY TEARS INTO THIS
00:20:56
AND THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
00:20:59
>> I ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF CITY
00:21:01
STAFFERS WHO WILL AND SHOULD REMAIN ANONYMOUS PUT TIME INTO
00:21:07
THIS AND INTERVIEWS. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR
00:21:11
DEDICATION AND WE ALSO HAVE TODAY IN ADDITION TO THE CIVIL
00:21:15
GRAND JURY MEMBERS, WE HAVE BUDGET DIRECTOR SOPHIA KETTLER.
00:21:19
>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE FOR PUTTING TOGETHER THE
00:21:22
PRESENTATIONS AND ESPECIALLY TO YOUR TEAM WHO NEVER GETS THE
00:21:24
CREDIT THEY DESERVE BUT THEY'RE GREAT TOO.
00:21:26
AND THEN ALSO NICHOLAS MAYNARD FROM BUDGET AND LEGISLATIVE
00:21:30
ANALYST'S OFFICE VERY SIMILAR. YOU DON'T GET ENOUGH ENOUGH
00:21:33
CREDIT. SO THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE
00:21:37
TODAY. BEFORE WE DIVE IN GET STARTED
00:21:38
I'D LOVE TO GIVE ED COOPER THE FOREPERSON OF THE JURY A MOMENT
00:21:44
TO INTRODUCE THE JURY GIVES SOME OPENING REMARKS AND ONE
00:21:47
THING I WOULD LIKE TO LET EVERYONE KNOW IS WE DO HAVE
00:21:51
FIVE OF THESE REPORTS TODAY. IT WILL BE VERY LONG.
00:21:56
AND SO I THINK TO THE EXTENT THAT WE ALL RECOGNIZE THAT
00:21:59
WE'RE ALL GRATEFUL TO EACH OTHER, LET'S TRY TO MOVE
00:22:01
AGGRESSIVELY HERE BECAUSE I KNOW ME AND MY COLLEAGUES HAVE
00:22:04
HAVE QUESTIONS. WE WANT TO GET TO THE ANSWERS
00:22:07
SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO DIVING IN AND GETTING RIGHT TO IT.
00:22:08
MR. COOPER THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
00:22:11
>> PLEASE GO AHEAD. MR. CHAIR.
00:22:14
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO CALL ITEMS THREE AND FOUR TOGETHER?
00:22:16
I'M GOING TO LET HIM MAKE SOME OPENING REMARKS.
00:22:19
OKAY. AND THEN I'D LIKE TO CALL ITEMS
00:22:20
THREE AND FOUR. I THINK HIS REMARKS PROBABLY
00:22:22
WILL TOUCH ON MORE THAN JUST THE FIRST TWO.
00:22:26
ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU.
00:22:26
CHAIR CHERYL VICE CHAIR FIELDER SUPERVISOR WANG, THANK YOU FOR
00:22:30
CONVENING THE GOVERNMENT AUDIT AND OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE HEARING
00:22:34
FOR THE 2025 TO 2026 SAN FRANCISCO CIVIL GRAND JURY
00:22:38
REPORTS. >> MY NAME IS ED COOPER AND IT
00:22:41
WAS MY HONOR TO SERVE AS THE SERVE THE JURY AS ITS
00:22:42
FOREPERSON. >> TODAY MY COLLEAGUES WILL
00:22:45
PRESENT FIVE REPORTS ROB CHANDLER WILL PRESENT THE
00:22:48
SOUNDS OF SILENCE AND FOG OF WARNING A PAIR OF REPORTS ON
00:22:53
THE CITY'S OUTER SIREN SYSTEM AND EMERGENCY ALERTING
00:22:56
PRACTICES. RICK HARRELL WILL PRESENT RED
00:22:59
FLAG WARNING ON WILDFIRE RISK IN GLEN CANYON.
00:23:03
GARY SWAY WILL PRESENT AT SCALE AT RISK ON DATA AND OVERSIGHT
00:23:07
IN THE CITY'S HOMELESSNESS SERVICES.
00:23:10
AND MARGARET KEEL WILL PRESENT WHEN MAKING DO DOESN'T WORK ON
00:23:12
CONDITIONS IN THE SAN FRANCISCO COUNTY JAILS.
00:23:18
CIVIL GRAND JURY SERVICE WORKS DIFFERENTLY THAN A TRIAL JURY.
00:23:22
NO ONE IS SUMMONED OUR 19 JURORS OR SAN FRANCISCO
00:23:25
RESIDENTS WHO CHOSE TO VOLUNTEER FOR THIS WORK
00:23:27
AND WERE THEN SELECTED AT RANDOM FROM THAT POOL OF
00:23:30
VOLUNTEERS. >> THEY'RE NOT EXPERTS.
00:23:34
THEY'RE ORDINARY RESIDENTS WHO GAVE UP A YEAR OF THEIR TIME
00:23:35
COMPENSATED ONLY WITH A MINIMAL PER DIEM SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY
00:23:38
CARE ABOUT THE CITY AND WERE WILLING TO DO THE WORK OF
00:23:42
FINDING OPPORTUNITIES TO MAKE IT MORE EFFICIENT
00:23:45
AND EFFECTIVE. THEY BRING A WIDE VARIETY OF
00:23:48
PERSPECTIVES AND LIFE AND WORK EXPERIENCE TO THIS WORK.
00:23:49
THIS YEAR'S JURY REPRESENTED NINE OF THE 11 SUPERVISORS
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TAURIEL DISTRICTS AND INCLUDED SEVEN WOMEN AND 12 MEN.
00:23:57
WE ESTIMATE THEIR COMBINED COMMITMENT TO THIS TERM AT THE
00:24:01
EQUIVALENT OF 8 TO 10 FULL TIME EMPLOYEES GIVEN EFFECTIVELY
00:24:04
WITHOUT PAY. >> IN THAT TIME THEY
00:24:07
INTERVIEWED SCORES OF CITY WORKERS ELECTED OFFICIALS
00:24:10
AND SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS ACROSS THE FIVE REPORTS BEFORE
00:24:12
YOU TODAY. >> BEFORE MY COLLEAGUES WALK
00:24:15
THROUGH EACH REPORT, THE SPECIFIC FINDINGS AND HOW THE
00:24:18
CITY RESPONDED TO THEM, I WANT TO SAY A WORD ABOUT WHAT THESE
00:24:22
FIVE REPORTS HAVE IN COMMON AND WHY WE THINK THEY MATTER.
00:24:26
THE SOUNDS OF SILENCE AND FOG OF WARNING BOTH ASK A BASIC
00:24:30
QUESTION IF SOMETHING GOES SERIOUSLY WRONG IN THE CITY,
00:24:33
WILL RESIDENTS ACTUALLY BE WARNED?
00:24:34
CLEARLY IN TIME AND IN A WAY THEY CAN ACT ON RED FLAG
00:24:40
WARNING LOOKS AT WILDFIRE RISK IN GLEN CANYON A NATURAL AREA
00:24:44
USED BY THOUSANDS OF SAN FRANCISCANS AND IT HOW THE CITY
00:24:48
MANAGES THAT RISK ACROSS SEVERAL DEPARTMENTS WITH
00:24:49
RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE SAME GROUND AT SCALE AT RISK ASKS
00:24:53
WHETHER THE CITY IS WATCHING CLOSELY ENOUGH OVER THE ROUGHLY
00:24:59
HALF $1 BILLION A YEAR HSA SPENDS ON NONPROFIT
00:25:03
HOMELESSNESS CONTRACTS TO ENSURE THAT MONEY TRANSLATES
00:25:07
INTO SAFETY AND RESULTS FOR THE PEOPLE.
00:25:08
THOSE SERVICES EXIST TO HELP AND WE'RE MAKING DO.
00:25:12
DOES IT WORK? LOOKS INSIDE SAN FRANCISCO
00:25:14
COUNTY JAILS FACILITIES MOST RESIDENTS WILL NEVER SEE
00:25:19
HOUSING A POPULATION WITH HEALTH AND SAFETY NEEDS.
00:25:22
THE SYSTEM WAS NOT ORIGINALLY BUILT TO HANDLE DIFFERENT
00:25:25
DEPARTMENTS, DIFFERENT BUDGETS, DIFFERENT POPULATIONS AFFECTED
00:25:29
THAT EACH REPORT STARTS FROM THE SAME PREMISE THAT SAN
00:25:33
FRANCISCANS ARE ENTITLED TO KNOW WHETHER THE CITY SYSTEMS
00:25:34
ARE DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO WARNING RESIDENTS WHEN
00:25:38
SOMETHING GOES WRONG MANAGING FIRE RISK IN A PLACE LIKE GLEN
00:25:41
CANYON ACCOUNTING FOR CLOSE TO HALF $1 BILLION A YEAR
00:25:45
IN CONTRACTED HOMELESSNESS SERVICES AND KEEPING EVERYONE
00:25:49
IN OR AROUND OUR JAIL SAFE WHETHER IN CUSTODY, WORKING
00:25:52
THERE OR VISITING AND IF THOSE SYSTEMS ARE NOT DOING WHAT
00:25:57
THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO, WHY NOT?
00:25:57
MY COLLEAGUES WILL TAKE YOU THROUGH EACH AND THROUGH WHAT
00:26:01
EACH INVESTIGATION FOUND IN THE PRESENTERS OWN WORDS
00:26:04
AND THROUGH HOW THE RESPONSIBLE DEPARTMENTS RESPONDED POINT BY
00:26:06
POINT. A CIVIL GRAND JURY HAS NO
00:26:11
AUTHORITY TO COMPEL A CITY DEPARTMENT TO ACT ON A FINDING
00:26:15
A RECOMMENDATION UNDER PENAL CODE SECTIONS 933 AND 933 .05 >>
00:26:20
DEPARTMENTS ARE ONLY REQUIRED TO STATE WHETHER THEY AGREE OR
00:26:24
DISAGREE WITH EACH FINDING AND HOW THEY INTEND TO DO NOT
00:26:28
INTEND TO ACT ON EACH RECOMMENDATION.
00:26:29
>> EVALUATING WHETHER WHETHER THESE RESPONSES ARE ADEQUATE
00:26:33
THOUGH IS A MATTER FOR THIS COMMITTEE AND FOR THE PUBLIC.
00:26:36
>> WE PRESENT THESE REPORTS AND THE CITY'S WRITTEN
00:26:37
RESPONSES TO THEM FOR THAT PURPOSE.
00:26:40
THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TODAY AND FOR THESE HEARINGS.
00:26:44
>> I'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. CHASE.
00:26:48
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MR. COOPER.
00:26:54
MR. JACKSON. GOOD MORNING.
00:27:01
>> I'M ROB CHANCELLOR. IT'S BEEN MY SORRY, I
00:27:05
APOLOGIZE. LET ME ASK THE CLERK TO CALL
00:27:06
THESE ITEMS AND THEN YOU'LL ALL GO IN A SECOND.
00:27:09
>> SORRY ABOUT THAT. MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU PLEASE
00:27:12
CALL ITEM NUMBER THREE AND FOUR TOGETHER BEFORE MR. CHANCELLOR
00:27:15
DIVES IN? >> YES.
00:27:16
ITEM THREE IS A HEARING ON THE 2025 2026 CIVIL GRAND JURY
00:27:21
REPORT ENTITLED THE SOUNDS OF SILENCE SAN FRANCISCO'S NUMBER
00:27:29
FOUR IS A RESOLUTION RESPONDING TO THE PRESIDING JUDGE OF THE
00:27:31
SUPERIOR COURT ON THE FINDING AND RECOMMENDATIONS CONTAINED
00:27:34
IN A 20 2520 2026 CIVIL GRAND JURY REPORT OF NOT DECIDING
00:27:44
AND URGING THE MAYOR TO CALL THE IMPLEMENTATION OF ACCEPTED
00:27:48
FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS THROUGH HIS DEPARTMENT HEADS
00:27:49
AND THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET.
00:27:52
>> OKAY MR. CHANDLER OUTDOOR OWNING SYSTEMS OFFLINE SINCE
00:27:56
2019 TAKE US THROUGH THE REPORT PLEASE.
00:28:00
>> THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING.
00:28:04
AND IT'S BEEN MY PRIVILEGE TO SERVE AS A MEMBER OF THE GRAND
00:28:08
JURY AND I APPRECIATE THE BOARD'S INTEREST IN THE WORK OF
00:28:12
THE CIVIL GRAND JURY. LOOKING AT THE OTHER MONITORS,
00:28:19
IS THE PRESENTATION BEING SHARED AT THIS POINT?
00:28:20
>> YES. OKAY, GOOD.
00:28:25
>> BOTH OF THESE REPORTS ARE OF A PIECE OF THE FOLKS IN THE
00:28:30
JURY DECIDED TO PREPARE TWO REPORTS PRIMARILY BE FOR
00:28:35
EDITORIAL CONSIDERATIONS BUT THEY BELONG TOGETHER IN SOME
00:28:40
REAL SENSE. HOWEVER, FOR THIS MORNING
00:28:44
THEY'LL BE PRESENTED SEPARATELY SO THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY
00:28:49
FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS THE SHORT STORY
00:28:56
OF THE FIRST REPORT IS THAT BEGAN WHEN I BEGAN WORKING WITH
00:29:03
THE JURY ON ON THIS ISSUE. THE THING THAT WAS OBVIOUS TO
00:29:07
EVERYBODY IS THAT NOBODY WANTS TO BE LATE TO LUNCH ON TACO
00:29:11
TUESDAY THAT THE PUBLIC OUTDOOR PUBLIC WARNING SYSTEM THE
00:29:15
SIRENS WERE ALWAYS A WEEKLY REMINDER THAT SAN FRANCISCO WAS
00:29:21
A SPECIAL PLACE AND NOT LIKE ALL THOSE OTHER CITIES ARE BUT
00:29:26
THEY'VE BEEN OFF FOR A LONG TIME AND THE QUESTION BECOMES
00:29:33
IF SAN FRANCISCO NEVER HAD THIS KIND OF SYSTEM, WOULD THERE BE
00:29:38
A CLAMOR FOR ESTABLISHING ONE TODAY?
00:29:43
>> TODAY THERE ARE DIFFERENT THREATS TO THE CITY.
00:29:47
THERE'S A DIFFERENT POPULATION AND THE CITY BACK IN 1950 WHEN
00:29:52
THE SYSTEM WAS ESTABLISHED, THE IDEA THAT MESSAGES SHOULD BE
00:29:57
IN FIVE LANGUAGES WOULD BE HEAD SCRATCHING TO NEARLY EVERYBODY
00:30:04
AND THERE'S DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGY TODAY.
00:30:08
THERE ARE MANY TECHNOLOGIES THAT WE HAVE IMMEDIATELY
00:30:13
AVAILABLE TO OURSELVES TODAY THAT WERE NOT ANTICIPATED WHEN
00:30:16
THE SIRENS ARE ESTABLISHED OTHER THAN FOLKS LIKE TRACY,
00:30:24
HE ALREADY FIGURED OUT SOME OF THIS WHEN I WHEN THE COMMITTEE
00:30:31
THAT WAS WORKING ON THESE REPORTS FIRST ASSEMBLED THERE
00:30:35
WAS SEEMED TO BE A SENSE THAT THE JURY WAS GOING TO MAKE A
00:30:39
RECOMMENDATION TO EITHER REESTABLISH THE OUTDOOR PUBLIC
00:30:43
WARNING SYSTEM OR TO NOT DO IT STEP AWAY FROM THIS AS A
00:30:50
TECHNOLOGY AND I AND I THINK MY COLLEAGUES THOUGHT WE KNEW
00:30:55
IN ADVANCE WHAT THE ANSWER SHOULD BE.
00:31:01
HOWEVER, AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR THIS SUPERVISORS LONG
00:31:09
PROPER RESOLUTION TO DO A REESTABLISHMENT OF THE SIREN
00:31:14
SYSTEM PREEMPTED THE JURY OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A
00:31:21
RECOMMENDATION. THE JURY RULES PROHIBIT THE
00:31:22
JURY FROM GETTING INTO POLICY QUESTIONS AND ONCE THE
00:31:28
SUPERVISORS HAD TAKEN A VOTE THIS CLEARLY WAS A POLICY
00:31:32
ISSUE. >> HOWEVER, THE JURY'S REPORT
00:31:36
CONTINUED TO EXPLORE THE PURPOSE HISTORY AND THE
00:31:40
PREVIOUS INTENDS TO RESTORE THE SYSTEM AND THE REPORT CONSIDERS
00:31:45
WHAT ROLE SIRENS MIGHT HAVE IN A PUBLIC ALERTING SYSTEM.
00:31:51
GIVEN WHERE WE ARE TODAY WITH TODAY'S RISK, TODAY'S
00:31:55
POPULATION AND TODAY'S TECHNOLOGY.
00:31:59
SO IF THE JURY WAS NOT GOING TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION, ARE
00:32:06
THERE STILL REMAINS A NEED FOR A THOUGHTFUL, DETAILED
00:32:11
AND CONSOLIDATED ANALYSIS AND RECOMMEND ACTION TO ADVISE
00:32:14
THE CITY'S EXECUTIVE AND LEGISLATIVE FUNCTIONS?
00:32:21
>> FURTHERMORE, THE CITIZENS AND RESIDENTS OF SAN FRANCISCO
00:32:26
ALSO NEED TO HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF THESE ISSUES
00:32:30
SO THE JURY PARTICULARLY RECOMMENDS THAT THE DEPARTMENT
00:32:34
OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT MAKE AN AUTHORITATIVE ANALYSIS
00:32:39
AND RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY'S LEGISLATORS
00:32:43
AND EXECUTIVES. IF YOU REVIEWED THE RESPONSES
00:32:46
THIS IS MILDLY A CONTENTIOUS ISSUE.
00:32:52
FURTHER, THE JURY ASKED THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY
00:32:57
MANAGEMENT UPDATE AND EXPAND PUBLIC FACING EXPLANATIONS OF
00:33:01
THE CITY'S ALERTING FACILITIES AND STRATEGIES AND THIS IS
00:33:05
SOMETHING THAT'S NOT SO CONTENTIOUS.
00:33:11
THAT'S A BRIEF INTRODUCTION TO THE REPORT.
00:33:16
I CAN ANSWER QUESTIONS DIRECTLY AT THIS TIME OR HOWEVER THE
00:33:23
COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED .
00:33:27
THANK YOU, MR. CHANCELLOR. YOU KNOW BRIEFLY I WANT TO
00:33:32
THERE ARE TWO GROUPS OF PEOPLE THAT I ESPECIALLY WANT TO
00:33:36
RECOGNIZE FOR THEIR HARD WORK ON ON ALL OF THESE SUPERVISOR
00:33:37
FIELDER STAFF SUPERVISOR WONG STAFF AND A THIRD I GUESS MY
00:33:40
STAFF WORKED HARD ON THIS TOO. SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WATCHING, I
00:33:44
JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL AS WELL.
00:33:45
MR. CHANCELLOR. I APPRECIATE THAT.
00:33:50
>> I ACTUALLY HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS IF I CAN INVITE MARY
00:33:55
ELLEN CARROLL, THE DIRECTOR EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT FOR A
00:33:59
COUPLE. >> SHE WILL BE RIGHT DOWN.
00:34:03
BUT I CAN ANSWER. THAT'S FINE.
00:34:04
THAT'S PERFECTLY FINE. >> THANK YOU.
00:34:06
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE ON ON FINDING SIX ABOUT A SIREN BASED
00:34:13
APPROACH TO EMERGENCY WARNINGS YOU KNOW IT'S STILL REQUIRE
00:34:18
SERVICES TO MAINTAIN USE EXISTING DIGITAL MESSAGING
00:34:21
SYSTEMS ETC. SO AROUND SIREN BASED APPROACHES TO TO
00:34:28
EMERGENCIES WAS EARLIER MONOLINGUAL.
00:34:29
HOW DO WE CONSIDER NON-ENGLISH SPEAKERS IN THE COMMUNITY?
00:34:33
>> HOW SHOULD WE THINK ABOUT THIS?
00:34:34
WELL IN THE CONTEXT OF A SIREN BASED MESSAGE I MEAN WE WOULD
00:34:36
NEED TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE LOOPING IN MULTIPLE
00:34:40
LANGUAGES WOULD BE THE SIMPLEST WAY TO DO IT.
00:34:43
YEAH. AND THEN IN THE CONTEXT OF ALL
00:34:44
OF OUR OTHER ALERTING IT'S COMPLICATED AND IT DEPENDS ON
00:34:47
THE CHANNEL, RIGHT? >> SOME SOCIAL MEDIA PLATFORMS
00:34:51
HAVE DIFFERENT CHARACTER LIMITS THAT ALLOW US TO PUT DIFFERENT
00:34:52
LANGUAGES IN THE SAME POST VERSUS IN COMMENTS OR THREADED
00:34:55
POSTS ARE SMS BASED SYSTEM CAN ONLY DO ENGLISH AND SPANISH.
00:35:02
THAT'S A TECHNOLOGICAL LIMITATION WITH THE VENDOR THAT
00:35:04
WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO TRY TO EXPAND.
00:35:06
WE ALSO HAVE A WHATSAPP CHANNEL THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE
00:35:07
FLEXIBLE OR WE CAN PUT THINGS OUT IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGES SO IT
00:35:11
DOES VARY BY PLATFORM. GOT IT.
00:35:14
>> AND IF WE WERE TO GO THROUGH THE REMOVAL PROCESS KIND OF
00:35:16
JUMPING TO FINDING TEN HERE, DO WE HAVE AN ESTIMATED COST OF
00:35:20
REMOVING THE SIRENS? >> I DON'T I DON'T KNOW.
00:35:25
SHE'S DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB WITHOUT YOU.
00:35:28
>> SORRY. LUCKILY MY OFFICE IS JUST
00:35:30
UPSTAIRS A THE LAST ESTIMATE WE GOT FOR THE FULL REPLACEMENT
00:35:39
FOR THE SYSTEM WAS 20 ABOUT $20 MILLION AND THAT IS A YOU KNOW
00:35:45
THAT IS NOW A COUPLE OF YEARS OLD SO WE CAN PROBABLY ESTIMATE
00:35:49
THAT THAT WOULD BE MORE THAN THAT.
00:35:53
>> THAT YOU SAID REPLACEMENT. IS THERE AN ESTIMATE FOR JUST
00:35:56
PURE REMOVAL? >> OH, FOR REMOVAL.
00:35:57
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THAT. >> WE HAVE SOME IT WOULD BE
00:36:03
LESS THAN 20 MILLION AND MORE THAN ZERO JUST TRYING TO WORK.
00:36:04
>> I KNOW THAT'S NOT A I THINK WE CAN ASSUME THAT.
00:36:07
>> YES. OKAY, GREAT.
00:36:08
THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE IT.
00:36:09
OKAY COLLEAGUES, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS MATTER?
00:36:13
>> I KNOW FRANKLY I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS BECAUSE THE
00:36:18
REPORT WAS VERY SPECIFIC AND DETAILED WHICH I MEAN AS A
00:36:21
COMPLIMENT. >> OKAY.
00:36:25
SUPERVISOR WONG FINE. SO PRESS THE BUTTON FINDING
00:36:36
SEVEN AND SAYS THAT RESTORING THE SIGNS WOULD ADD ANOTHER
00:36:40
LAYER OF INFRASTRUCTURE BUT WOULD NOT PROVIDE THE SPECIFIC
00:36:44
INSTRUCTIONS PEOPLE NEED DURING AN EMERGENCY.
00:36:48
AT THE SAME TIME ONE BENEFIT OF MULTIPLE WARNING SYSTEMS IS
00:36:51
REDUNDANCY. A PHONE ALERT CAN PROVIDE A
00:36:52
DETAILED INFORMATION BUT DEPENDS ON SOMEONE HAVING A
00:36:56
WORKING PHONE AND RECEIVING THE MESSAGE.
00:36:59
A SIREN IS LESS INFORMATIVE BUT PROVIDES ANOTHER WAY TO GET
00:37:04
PEOPLE'S ATTENTION. FOR EXAMPLE I MYSELF I RUN
00:37:07
ALONG THE GREAT HIGHWAY TRAIL A LOT AND WHEN I'M USING THE
00:37:12
TRAIL I ACTUALLY NEVER BRING MY CELL PHONE OR ANY TECHNOLOGY
00:37:16
WITH ME AND MANY OTHER PEOPLE JUST DON'T HAVE CELL PHONES.
00:37:22
>> SO HOW WOULD THE HOW DID THE GRAND JURY WEIGH THE VALUE OF
00:37:26
THAT REDUNDANCY VERSUS THE LIMITATIONS OF THE SIREN SYSTEM
00:37:37
? >> THE GRAND JURY ACKNOWLEDGED
00:37:40
THAT AND THE REPORT THAT THE SIREN SYSTEM HAS SOME
00:37:45
PARTICULAR CHARACTERISTICS THAT POTENTIALLY ARE ADVANTAGE.
00:37:49
IT'S BUT IN REFLECTION ON WHAT THE TOTAL PICTURE IS, THE
00:38:00
IMPORTANCE OF THE WHAT ADDITIONAL BENEFIT COMES FROM
00:38:04
THAT AND IF YOU HAD $20 MILLION TO SPEND, IS THIS WHAT YOU
00:38:12
WOULD SPEND IT ON GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE FOR
00:38:16
OTHER TECHNOLOGIES AND THERE ARE OTHER THINGS COMING DOWN
00:38:22
THE PATH ARE DIFFERENT TECHNOLOGIES THAT THAT MAY
00:38:26
BECOME RELATIVELY MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE FUTURE
00:38:30
THOUGH MANY OF THESE NEW THINGS ALSO KIND OF SUPPOSE THAT
00:38:34
SOMEBODY HAS A THEIR PHONE IN THEIR POCKET.
00:38:37
YESTERDAY WHEN I WAS WALKING ALONG THE GREAT HIGHWAY AND SAW
00:38:44
A COUPLE SURFERS COME OUT OF THE OCEAN, MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS
00:38:49
WELL, YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE SURFING BY YOURSELF MAYBE MAYBE
00:38:53
A SIREN WOULD HELP. ON THE OTHER HAND, I SAW THAT
00:38:57
THEY WERE WEARING THEIR PIECES THAT COVERED THEIR EARS AND SO
00:39:01
MAYBE EVEN SURFERS DON'T HEAR THE MESSAGE OF THE OTHER THING
00:39:08
THAT THE REPORT ADDRESSES AND IS THAT THE THE QUESTION OF
00:39:16
HOW PEOPLE ARE TO RESPOND TO THE SIRENS ARE SOMETHING THAT'S
00:39:21
USED ONCE A GENERATION. >> HOW MUCH CONFIDENCE DO YOU
00:39:26
HAVE THAT PEOPLE WOULD DO ANYTHING BEYOND SAYING MAYBE I
00:39:32
SHOULD REACH INTO MY POCKET AND GET MY PHONE TO SEE WHETHER
00:39:34
THIS IS REAL OR A KIND OF FAULT THAT MIGHT HAVE OCCURRED?
00:39:43
SIMILARLY, I THINK PEOPLE EXPERIENCE FIRE ALARMS
00:39:48
IN PUBLIC SPACES ARE IF THE FIRE ALARM WENT OFF HERE WOULD
00:39:52
WE ALL GET UP AND IMMEDIATELY RUSH OUT OR WOULD WE CALL
00:39:56
AND SECURITY AND SEE WHETHER THIS IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT
00:39:59
REQUIRES THAT ACCUSATION? >> SO FOR SOMETHING LIKE THE
00:40:04
SIRENS, IF YOU WERE TO REASSESS ABOLISH THAT SYSTEM YOU WOULD
00:40:08
HAVE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT MESSAGE YOU CAN SUPPLY TO THE
00:40:12
PUBLIC AND WOULD THE PUBLIC UNDERSTAND AND TAKE THE
00:40:20
APPROPRIATE ACTION OR THE TERM THE ART USED WAS MILL ABOUT
00:40:25
BEING NOT HAVING ENOUGH INFORMATION TO RESPOND
00:40:31
EFFECTIVELY AND THEN ARE THERE AS OPPOSED TO A LOOPING MESSAGE
00:40:38
ARE THERE OPTIONS FOR SAY SOMETHING THAT'S A LITTLE BIT
00:40:42
MORE DYNAMIC SOME SOME OF THESE MAYBE THAT'S A QUESTION FOR
00:40:47
SOMEBODY SHARING SPECIFIC INFORMATION ABOUT SOMETHING
00:40:50
IN REAL TIME RATHER THAN A LOOPING MESSAGE LITERALLY JUST
00:40:54
A LOUDSPEAKER THAT GOES ACROSS THE ENTIRE AREA.
00:40:58
>> THANK YOU SUPERVISOR MARY ELLEN CAROLINE, THE EXECUTIVE
00:41:02
DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT.
00:41:06
SO THERE IS CAPABILITY FOR A VOICE.
00:41:10
THERE'S MESSAGES AND THERE IS THERE ARE CAPABILITIES TO SPEAK
00:41:14
INTO A SYSTEM. YES.
00:41:18
A SYSTEM THAT WOULD HAVE WHERE YOU COULD DO CUSTOM MESSAGES.
00:41:24
HOWEVER, WE KNOW THAT THAT IS NOT THERE.
00:41:29
IT'S THE QUALITY OF WHAT YOU HEAR BECAUSE OUR PREVIOUS US OR
00:41:36
SIRENS DID HAVE THAT CAPABILITY IS NOT CONSIST IN DEPENDING ON
00:41:41
WHERE YOU ARE IN THE CITY ONE OF THE CONSIDERATIONS THE NEW
00:41:45
SYSTEM WOULD REQUIRE A I'M NOT USING THE RIGHT WORD BUT A
00:41:49
SOUND ASSESSMENT BEFORE ANYTHING WENT THROUGH WAS
00:41:56
CREATED BECAUSE THE GEOGRAPHY OF THE CITY HAS CHANGED IN THE
00:41:59
LAST 50 YEARS CONSIDERABLY SO LARGE BUILDINGS AND THE BUILT
00:42:04
ENVIRONMENT IN GENERAL DOES IMPACT THAT.
00:42:07
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK THE CITY IF WE WERE TO
00:42:11
MOVE FORWARD WE WOULD WANT TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THOSE
00:42:15
CAPABILITIES ARE IN ANY NEW TECHNOLOGY WHICH ONE WOULD HOPE
00:42:18
WOULD BE IMPROVED BUT IT'S IT IS AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT
00:42:26
COMPONENT BECAUSE WE COULD HAVE ALERTS THAT ARE FOR PEOPLE TO
00:42:30
STAY IN PLACE AND NOT RUN OUT OF THEIR HOUSE.
00:42:35
WE COULD HAVE AN ALERT THAT WE WOULD WANT PEOPLE TO THAT WAS
00:42:39
AN INDICATION FOR EVACUATION. THERE'S SO MANY DIFFERENT
00:42:43
REALLY OPPOSITE IN INSTRUCTIONS THAT MIGHT BE GIVEN FOR ANY
00:42:46
TYPE OF INCIDENT THAT YOU KNOW THIS USING A OUTDOOR WARNING
00:42:53
WOULD HAVE TO BE IN MY OPINION A VERY EXTREME SITUATION THAT
00:43:00
THAT WE WOULD HAVE A CLEAR PLAN AND THAT WE WOULD NOT BE
00:43:05
PUTTING PEOPLE IN MORE DANGER BECAUSE OF THAT ALERT IF THAT
00:43:09
MAKES SENSE AND THEN FOR I'M NOT SURE WHO TO DIRECT
00:43:13
DISCUSSION TO RECOMMENDATION ONE DEEMED TO RECOMMEND WHETHER
00:43:20
WE RESTORE OR RETIRE THE SIRENS BUT THIS ISN'T NECESSARILY A
00:43:24
DECISION D CAN MAKE ALONE INVOLVES OTHER DEPARTMENTS
00:43:28
FUNDING ELECTED LEADERSHIP. >> SO HOW HOW DO WE ACTUALLY
00:43:31
GET TO A DECISION WHO TAKES THE LEAD?
00:43:32
IS THERE ANY SORT OF FINAL DECISION THAT IS LED BY ONE ONE
00:43:41
AGENCY OR OR ELECTED LEADERSHIP?
00:43:46
>> I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE BUREAUCRACY
00:43:47
BEHIND YEAH, IT WOULD NOT THERE REALLY ISN'T ONE ENTITY THAT
00:43:52
WOULD AND CAN MAKE THIS DECISION.
00:43:55
THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A CONSIDERABLE CAPITAL PROGRAM.
00:43:59
IT ALSO REQUIRES ONGOING OPERATIONAL RESOURCES
00:44:02
AND CLEARLY, YOU KNOW, A CLEAR PLAN FOR IMPLEMENTATION AND USE
00:44:10
SO SO THAT WOULD REQUIRE YOU KNOW, PROBABLY MULTIPLE AVENUES
00:44:17
OF RECOMMENDATIONS. IT HAS TO GO THROUGH CAPITAL
00:44:22
PLANNING AND BE ALLOCATED FUNDING IN THE END FOR THIS ALL
00:44:27
TO HAPPEN AND THEN ANOTHER QUESTION THE THE CIVIL GRAND
00:44:31
JURY REPORT FOUND THAT THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE FORMAL PROCEDURES
00:44:34
FOR SENDING FOLLOW UP OR CLOSURE MESSAGES AFTER AN
00:44:38
EMERGENCY ALERT. HOW DOES THE TEAM DECIDE TODAY
00:44:41
WHEN A FOLLOW UP MESSAGE SHOULD BE SENT AND WHAT NEEDS TO
00:44:43
CHANGE TO MAKE THAT PRACTICE MORE CONSISTENT?
00:44:49
>> I BELIEVE THAT WAS FROM THE SECOND REPORT BUT WE'RE GLAD TO
00:44:50
START ON IT NOW. >> AND SO WE THAT IS SOMETHING
00:44:53
THAT WE'RE WORKING TO IMPROVE TYPICALLY.
00:44:57
IS THERE AN ACTIVE HAZARD RIGHT?
00:44:58
IS THERE SOMETHING THAT THE HAZARD HAS ENDED AND PEOPLE
00:45:02
NEED TO KNOW THAT FROM US AND SOMETIMES SOMETHING
00:45:05
RESOLVES AND IT'S VERY OBVIOUS FOR EXAMPLE A POWER OUTAGE.
00:45:08
EVERYONE KNOWS THAT THE POWER CAME BACK ON.
00:45:10
WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO SEND A TEXT TO TELL THEM THAT
00:45:13
BUT THERE ARE OTHER SITUATIONS WHERE IT WOULD BE HELPFUL
00:45:16
AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE TOOK AS HELPFUL FEEDBACK
00:45:20
AND WE'RE WORKING TO DEVELOP AND STRENGTHEN THOSE PROTOCOLS
00:45:21
RIGHT NOW SO WE HAVE A CLEAR MATRIX FOR WHAT REQUIRES A
00:45:24
CLOSURE AND WHAT DOESN'T. >> OKAY.
00:45:25
THANK YOU. I SAVED YOU A QUESTION FOR
00:45:27
LATER. THANK YOU.
00:45:28
THAT'S MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
00:45:31
SUPERVISOR WONG OKAY. THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH FOR
00:45:42
YOUR WORK ON THIS. AS YOU ALL KNOW WE HAVE TO
00:45:49
PROVIDE A RESPONSE SO I AM GOING TO MAKE A MOTION AFTER
00:45:57
PUBLIC COMMENT DIRECTING THE CLERK TO PREPARE A RESPONSE TO
00:46:04
THE SPEAR COURT BEFORE WELL HOW ABOUT THIS?
00:46:08
I'M GOING TO READ THE PROPOSED RESPONSES BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT
00:46:09
TO GIVE COMMENTERS AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THOSE
00:46:12
TO THOSE FINDINGS BEFORE I MAKE THE MOTION REGARDING FINDING
00:46:15
SIX WITNESSES TREES ANY SIREN BASED APPROACH TO EMERGENCY
00:46:19
WARNING STILL REQUIRES SAN FRANCISCO TO MAINTAIN AND USE
00:46:20
ITS EXISTING DIGITAL MESSAGING SYSTEMS FOR EMERGENCIES
00:46:24
INCLUDING WPA ALERT S.F. AND SOCIAL MEDIA.
00:46:28
I'M PROPOSING TO BE DIRECT THE CLERK TO RESPOND WITH THE
00:46:31
FOLLOWING RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REPORTS TO
00:46:34
THE PRESIDING JUDGE AT THE SUPERIOR COURT THAT THEY
00:46:36
PARTIALLY DISAGREE WITH FINDING NUMBER SIX FOR THE FOLLOWING
00:46:39
REASON THIS REPORT OUTLINES THE WAYS EXISTING SIREN SYSTEMS
00:46:42
STRUGGLE. IT'S IN SAN FRANCISCO'S BEST
00:46:45
INTEREST TO INVESTIGATE A WAY TO ALERT ITS POPULACE IN AN
00:46:48
EFFECTIVE, ACCESSIBLE, TIMELY MANNER REGARDING FINDING SEVEN
00:46:52
WHICH READS RESTORING OPI WC WOULD ADD A LAYER OF
00:46:56
INFRASTRUCTURE AND OPERATIONAL COMPLEXITY TO EMERGENCY
00:46:58
WARNINGS WITHOUT PROVIDING THE SPECIFIC ACTIONABLE
00:47:00
INSTRUCTIONS THAT DISCOURAGE MILLING BEHAVIOR.
00:47:03
>> I'M PROPOSING WE DIRECT THE CLERK TO RESPOND WITH THE
00:47:05
FOLLOWING RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REPORTS TO
00:47:08
THE PRESIDING JUDGE OF THE SUPERIOR COURT THAT THEY AGREE
00:47:11
WITH FINDING NUMBER F SEVEN REGARDING FINDING NINE WHICH
00:47:16
READS THE STATUS QUO IN WHICH OPW AC IS INOPERABLE AND NO
00:47:18
INSTITUTIONAL ACTORS COMMITTED TO EITHER RESTORING OR RETIRING
00:47:21
THE OPW S PRODUCES ONGOING COSTS WITHOUT PROGRESS TO
00:47:25
RESTORE OPW AC OR TO CONFIRM ITS RETIREMENT.
00:47:29
I'M PROPOSING THAT WE DIRECT THE CLERK TO RESPOND WITH THE
00:47:30
FOLLOWING RESOLVED THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REPORTS TO THE
00:47:34
PRESIDING JUDGE OF THE SUPERIOR COURT THAT THEY PARTIALLY
00:47:36
DISAGREE WITH FINDING NUMBER F NINE FOR THE FOLLOWING REASON
00:47:39
WHILE FUNDING HAS BEEN REQUESTED OVER THE YEARS NO
00:47:43
ACTUAL EFFORTS OR EXPENDITURES WERE IMPLEMENTED PER THE
00:47:44
REPORTS FINDINGS REGARDING FINDING TEN WHICH READS THE
00:47:48
UNRESOLVED QUESTION OF WHETHER TO RESTORE RETIRE THE OPW AC
00:47:52
CONSUMES D M CAPACITY INCLUDING STAFF TIME LEADERSHIP ATTENTION
00:47:56
AND LEADERSHIP ATTENTION THAT COULD BE SPENT IMPROVING THE
00:48:00
CITY'S EMERGENCY WARNING SYSTEMS.
00:48:03
>> I'M PROPOSING THAT WE DIRECT THE CLERK TO RESPOND WITH THE
00:48:04
FOLLOWING RESOLVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REPORTS TO
00:48:08
THE PRESIDING JUDGE OF THE SUPERIOR COURT THAT THEY AGREE
00:48:11
WITH FINDING NUMBER TEN FOR THE FOLLOWING REASON THE ONGOING
00:48:12
LIMBO OF THE OPW CONSUMES ATTENTION THAT COULD BE SPENT
00:48:16
ELSEWHERE. WE SHOULD TRY TO COME UP WITH A
00:48:18
SOLUTION RESTORE OR RETIRE SO THE QUESTION CAN BE PUT TO REST
00:48:22
EITHER THROUGH THE END OF THE SYSTEM OR THROUGH ITS
00:48:24
RESTORATION REGARDING FINDING 11 WHICH READS THE PUBLIC HAS
00:48:26
NOT BEEN GIVEN A CLEAR EXPLANATION OF OPW S'S
00:48:30
HISTORICAL IMPORTANCE OR ITS CURRENT STATUS AND THE PUBLIC
00:48:34
INFORMATION THAT DOES EXIST IS OUTDATED ID AND CONTRADICTORY.
00:48:38
I'M PROPOSING THAT WE DIRECT THE CLERK TO RESPOND WITH THE
00:48:41
FOLLOWING RESOLVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REPORTS TO
00:48:43
THE PRESIDING JUDGE OF THE SUPERIOR COURT THAT THEY AGREE
00:48:46
WITH FINDING NUMBER F 11 FOR THE FOLLOWING REASON THE
00:48:49
CURRENT STATE OF OPW IS CONFUSING AND PUBLIC
00:48:52
INFORMATION IS UNCLEAR. WE SHOULD BE MORE TRANSPARENT
00:48:55
ABOUT ITS STANDING. ITS HISTORICAL IMPORTANCE WHILE
00:48:56
INTERESTING IS NOT RELEVANT TO ITS FUNCTION AS IT IS NOW
00:49:02
REGARDING FINDING 12 WHICH READS THE ABSENCE OF A CLEAR
00:49:03
EXPLANATION OF OPW STATUS HAS NEGATIVE IMPLICATIONS INCLUDING
00:49:06
NEGATIVE MEDIA COVERAGE AND PUBLIC UNCERTAINTY.
00:49:09
>> I'M PROPOSING WE DIRECT THE CLERK TO RESPOND WITH THE
00:49:11
FOLLOWING RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REPORTS TO
00:49:14
THE PRESIDING JUDGE OF THE SUPREME COURT THAT THEY AGREE
00:49:17
WITH FINDING NUMBER F 12 FOR THE FOLLOWING REASON IT IS
00:49:18
IMPORTANT FOR US TO ALWAYS REMAIN CLEAR AND TRANSPARENT
00:49:23
FOR THE PUBLIC AND IT IS IN OUR BEST INTEREST TO HAVE A CLEAR
00:49:26
EXPLANATION OF OPW AS A STATUS OC GETTING INTO THE
00:49:30
RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING RECOMMENDATION ONE WHICH READS
00:49:35
BY THE 1ST OF JULY 2027 THE DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY
00:49:37
MANAGEMENT SHOULD FORMALLY ADVISE THE MAYOR AND THE BOARD
00:49:39
OF SUPERVISORS WHETHER TO RESTORE OR PERMANENTLY RETIRE
00:49:43
THE OPW S I AM PROPOSING THAT WE DIRECT THE CLERK TO RESPOND
00:49:47
WITH THE FOLLOWING RESOLVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
00:49:51
REPORTS THAT RECOMMENDATION NUMBER R ONE SHOULD NOT BE
00:49:52
IMPLEMENTED BECAUSE IT IS NOT WARRANTED OR REASONABLE.
00:49:56
A REVIEW OF THIS NATURE REQUIRES CROSS-DEPARTMENTAL
00:50:00
COORDINATION AND CONTEXT OUTSIDE THE DEPARTMENT OF
00:50:01
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PURVIEW AND NEED WOULD NEED TO BE
00:50:04
WEIGHED AGAINST OTHER EMERGENCY RESPONSE NEEDS AND PROGRAMS.
00:50:07
A RECOMMENDED RECOMMENDATION OF THIS NATURE NEEDS TO BE MADE
00:50:11
IN CONJUNCTION WITH BOTH ELECTED AND DEPARTMENT
00:50:12
LEADERSHIP WRITING RECOMMENDATION NUMBER TWO WHICH
00:50:15
READS BY THE 1ST OF JANUARY 2028 THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC
00:50:19
WORKS IN COORDINATION WITH PROPERTY OWNERS WHERE
00:50:22
APPLICABLE SHOULD REMOVE OR SECURE REMNANT SIREN HARDWARE
00:50:23
IDENTIFY IT AS A PHYSICAL SAFETY HAZARD.
00:50:27
I AM PROPOSING THAT WE DIRECT THE CLERK TO RESPOND WITH THE
00:50:30
FOLLOWING RESOLVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REPORTS
00:50:32
THE RECOMMENDATION EXCUSE ME THE RECOMMENDATION NUMBER TWO
00:50:38
HAS ALREADY BEEN IMPLEMENTED. >> COLLEAGUES, DO YOU HAVE ANY
00:50:44
QUESTIONS? >> OKAY MADAM CLERK WE TAKE
00:50:47
PUBLIC COMMENT. YES, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO
00:50:51
WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM SHALL LINE UP NOW ALONG THE
00:50:52
SIDE BY THE WINDOWS ALL SPEAKERS WILL HAVE ONE MINUTE.
00:50:57
>> MR. CHAIR, WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENT.
00:51:01
>> OH, OKAY. >> PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOW CLOSED
00:51:11
. >> I'D LIKE TO MOVE NOW TO
00:51:13
AMEND ITEM NUMBER FOUR AS PRESENTED EARLIER.
00:51:18
>> MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
00:51:22
YES ON THE MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AMENDMENTS TO ITEM FOUR AS READ
00:51:25
INTO THE RECORD BY YOU CHAIR CHERYL REMEMBER LONG REMEMBER
00:51:29
LONG I LIKE YOUR FILTER FISCHER FILTER I SURE CHERYL ALL RIGHT.
00:51:33
SURE. CHERYL I HAVE THREE EYES.
00:51:36
>> THANK YOU. THE MOTION PASSES AND NOW I'D
00:51:40
LIKE TO MOVE TO SEND ITEM NUMBER FOUR TO THE FULL BOARD
00:51:43
WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION. MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU PLEASE
00:51:46
CALL THE ROLL? >> YES.
00:51:47
AND ON THE MOTION TO FORWARD ITEM FOUR TO THE FULL BOARD
00:51:50
WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION AS AMENDED.
00:51:54
>> REMEMBER WONG REMEMBER WONG I FISCHER FILTER FISCHER FILTER
00:51:58
I CHAIR CHERYL I CHERYL I HAVE THREE EYES THANK YOU.
00:52:03
>> THE MOTION PASSES AND NOW I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO FILE ITEM
00:52:08
NUMBER THREE. >> YES AND ON THE MOTION TO
00:52:09
FILE ITEM THREE. MEMBER WONG REMEMBER WONG I
00:52:16
LIKE YOUR FIELDER. FISCHER.
00:52:17
FIELDER I CHAIR CHERYL I CHAIR CHERYL I HAVE THREE EYES.
00:52:22
>> THANK YOU. THE MOTION PASSES.
00:52:23
MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL ITEMS NUMBER FIVE AND SIX
00:52:27
TOGETHER? YES.
00:52:30
ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS A HEARING ON THE 2025 2026 CIVIL GRAND
00:52:33
JURY REPORT ENTITLED FOG OF. AND MY ITEM NUMBER SIX IS A
00:52:41
RESOLUTION RESPONDING TO THE PRESIDING JUDGE OF THE SUPERIOR
00:52:45
COURT ON THE FINDING IN RECOMMENDATIONS CONTAINED
00:52:48
IN THE 2025 2026 CIVIL GRAND JURY REPORT ENTITLED AND URGING
00:52:56
THE MAYOR TO CAUSE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF ACCEPTED
00:52:59
FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS THROUGH HIS DEPARTMENT HEADS
00:53:00
AND THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET.
00:53:04
>> GREAT. THANK YOU.
00:53:07
SO NOW YOU HAVE THE SECOND GRAND JURY REPORTS AND MR.
00:53:09
CHANCELLOR WILL TURN TO YOU IN A SECOND HERE.
00:53:12
>> LOOK ALERT S.F. IS KIND OF DESCRIBED AS A FOUNDATIONAL
00:53:16
ELEMENT OF THE CITY'S OPT IN EMERGENCY ALERT SYSTEM.
00:53:21
>> WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE OVER 800,000 RESIDENTS, MILLIONS OF
00:53:24
VISITORS, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF COMMUTERS AND WE DO FACE
00:53:28
EMERGENCIES. >> THE PROBLEM HERE IS THAT
00:53:35
DIEM IS CITED THAT THERE ARE ONLY APPROXIMATELY 40,000 TEXTS
00:53:38
AND 34,000 ONLINE SUBSCRIBERS FOR ALERT S.F., WHICH IS A LOW
00:53:45
NUMBER AND IT'S GREAT TO SEE THAT DIEM IS A TO FOCUS ON
00:53:49
MULTILINGUAL DISSEMINATION. THIS IS HUGE BUT YOU KNOW,
00:53:53
FRANKLY WE NEED TO SEE MORE WORK HERE AND I THINK IT'S
00:53:56
REALLY CRITICAL FOR US TO DECIDE WHETHER WE SHOULD BE
00:54:00
INVESTING MORE IN ALERT. >> S.F. SO I'M EAGER TO HEAR
00:54:07
WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY, MR. CHANDLER.
00:54:08
>> PLEASE GO AHEAD. >> THANK YOU.
00:54:14
>> SO REGARDLESS WHAT THE CITY DECIDES TO DO WITH THE OUTDOOR
00:54:18
PUBLIC WARNING SYSTEM, THERE'S STILL ALERTS, THERE'S STILL
00:54:22
MECHANISMS TO DO IT AND THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY STILL NEED
00:54:29
TO BE INFORMED. >> TWO THEMES EMERGED FROM THE
00:54:33
JURY'S FURTHER INVESTIGATION OF THE ALERTING SYSTEMS IN THE
00:54:40
CITY. >> FIRST, THAT ALERT S.F. IS AN
00:54:45
IMPORTANT RESOURCE AND SHOULD BE FURTHER DEVELOPED.
00:54:49
>> AND THEN FOR ALL OF THE TECHNICAL MEANS WE HAVE FOR
00:54:54
DELIVERING ALERTS TO THE PUBLIC, THE MESSAGING SHOULD
00:54:58
FOLLOW SPECIFIC BEST PRACTICES THAT HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED BY
00:55:05
EXPERIENCE AND RESEARCH. THE JURY RECOMMENDS
00:55:12
AND RECOMMENDATIONS INCLUDING INCLUDES ESTABLISHING PROTOCOLS
00:55:17
FOR THE USE OF ALERT TESTS AND WIRELESS EMERGENCY ALERTS.
00:55:21
WIRELESS EMERGENCY ALERTS ARE EXACTLY LIKE TO YOUR CELL PHONE
00:55:29
AND DON'T REQUIRE AND HAVE THE PARTICULAR ADVANTAGE THAT THEY
00:55:33
DON'T REQUIRE ANY PRE REGISTRATION OR ACTION ON THE
00:55:37
PART OF USERS BUT THEY ARE SOMETHING THAT'S POTENTIALLY
00:55:47
OBNOXIOUS AND OVERUSED WOULD DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM PAYING
00:55:55
ATTENTION AND SO THE JURY FOUND THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR
00:56:02
SPECIFIC PROTOCOLS FOR HOW TO USE THESE TWO RESOURCES.
00:56:10
THE JURY THOUGHT THERE IS A NEED TO DISCOVER WHAT RESOURCES
00:56:14
ARE NEEDED TO BETTER SUPPORT ALERT S.F. AND TO SECURE
00:56:21
EXECUTIVE AND LEGISLATIVE SUPPORT FOR ALERT S.F.
00:56:25
AND THEIR NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED PUBLIC ACCESS TO CRITICAL
00:56:33
INFORMATION AND THIS IS THE QUESTION OF PROMOTING ALERT SO
00:56:38
GETTING PEOPLE TO SIGN UP, PAYING ATTENTION TO THE
00:56:42
QUESTION WHAT DO VISITORS DO? >> >> AND THEN THE SECOND
00:56:49
COMPONENT OF THAT WAS TO IMPROVE THE CONTENT OF ALERT
00:56:54
MESSAGES. JURY FOUND RECOMMENDS THAT
00:56:57
THERE BE CITYWIDE STANDARDS EVEN THOUGH WE THINK
00:57:03
AND DISCUSSION THIS MORNING HAS BEEN FOCUSED ON WHAT THE
00:57:07
DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT DOES BUT OTHER
00:57:12
DEPARTMENTS ALSO HAVE WAYS OF EN SERVE ON THEIR OWN
00:57:19
INITIATIVE TO JUST ALERT PEOPLE OF PROBLEMS.
00:57:23
AND SO THERE SHOULD BE A CITYWIDE STANDARD FOR BEST
00:57:27
PRACTICES. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT ALERTS HAVE
00:57:34
A CONFIRMED RESOLUTION OR CLOSURE AND ALL ALERT MESSAGES
00:57:42
SHOULD CONTAIN THE KEY CONTENT WHAT IS THE AUTHORITY OF ORIGIN
00:57:50
OF THE ALERT? WHAT HAZARDS WHAT RISK ARE
00:57:51
INVOLVED? WHERE ARE THE HAZARDS AND WHO
00:57:55
IS AT RISK FOR WHAT ACTION IS SUGGESTED AND HOW URGENT IS IT
00:58:02
AND WHAT IS THE DURATION OF THE RISK AND HOW TO OBTAIN UPDATES
00:58:06
ABOUT THE RISK AND THE ALERT AND DOING THE WORK OF THE JURY.
00:58:17
THERE IS A LITTLE SOFTWARE WEBSITE THAT REVIEWS THE
00:58:24
MESSAGES FORM ALERTS US ON I PREPARED THIS YESTERDAY THESE
00:58:31
ARE THE CURRENT STATISTICS FROM FROM THAT APPLICATION AND SO
00:58:38
THIS POTENTIALLY IS A CONTINUING RESOURCE FOR
00:58:42
IMPROVING THE WORK TO CONCLUDE THIS PRESENTATION I'D LIKE TO
00:58:50
MAKE SEVERAL ACKNOWLEDGMENTS OF THE JURY OR AT LEAST THE
00:58:57
COMMITTEE FOLKS I WORKED WITH FOR THESE TO REPORTS HAD FULL
00:59:01
COOPERATION OF THE CITY DEPARTMENTS.
00:59:04
WE CONTACTED THE DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT RESPONDED
00:59:08
TO MULTIPLE REQUESTS FOR INTERVIEWS AND DOCUMENTS
00:59:12
AND ALWAYS RESPONDED PROMPTLY AND WITH DETAIL.
00:59:16
>> I THANK YOU THE DEPARTMENT OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT POLICE
00:59:23
,FIRE AND MAYOR HAVE RESPONDED TO THE FOG AND SILENCE REPORT.
00:59:28
>> THE JURY WAS ALSO ABLE TO INTERVIEW TWO OUTSIDE EXPERTS
00:59:32
THAT INFORMED THE JURY AND MS. .
00:59:40
MELENDEZ FROM ABC7 NEWS HAS ENOUGH INTEREST IN THE WORK OF
00:59:43
THE JURY THAT ABC7 NEWS DID A COUPLE OF REPORTS ON THE WORK
00:59:51
OF THE JURY. THAT CONCLUDES WHAT I HAVE
00:59:55
PREPARED TO INTRODUCE THE SECOND REPORT.
00:59:59
>> GREAT. THANK YOU MR. CHANDLER.
01:00:00
APPRECIATE THAT. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR
01:00:04
DIRECTOR CARROLL HERE AND THEN I'M SURE MY COLLEAGUES HAVE A
01:00:08
COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AS WELL. >> LOOKING AT FINDING 14, WE
01:00:17
WHAT'S THE CURRENT PROMOTIONAL PLAN TO DRIVE MORE PEOPLE TO
01:00:21
OPT IN TO ALERT S.F. WELL, I'M GOING TO HAVE A CHAT WITH YOU
01:00:25
WHO LEADS THIS RESPONSE. THANK YOU.
01:00:28
>> THANK YOU. GOOD QUESTION.
01:00:29
SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THINGS UNDERWAY.
01:00:32
ONE IS THAT YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE A DEDICATED PAID MEDIA
01:00:36
BUDGET SO WE DO TRY TO ACQUIRE GRANT FUNDING OR SET ASIDE
01:00:40
LIMITED NON PERSONNEL GENERAL FUNDING WHICH HAS OBVIOUSLY
01:00:43
BEEN SHRINKING DUE TO THE OVERALL DEFICIT.
01:00:44
WE DID SET ASIDE ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF AGO $10,000 OUT OF
01:00:50
OUR NON PERSONNEL FUND FOR DIGITAL ADS THAT WE'VE BEEN
01:00:54
RUNNING OCCASIONALLY ON INSTAGRAM AND FACEBOOK AS KIND
01:00:58
OF A PILOT TO SEE WHAT GETS PEOPLE TO SIGN UP, WHAT GETS
01:00:59
PEOPLE TO ENGAGE. WE HAVE A REALLY ROBUST
01:01:02
IN-PERSON CAMPAIGN. WE DID OVER 60 IN-PERSON
01:01:05
COMMUNITY EVENTS IN EVERY SINGLE SUPERVISORY DISTRICT
01:01:09
OVER THE LAST FISCAL YEAR AND WE'RE OUT EVERY MONTH AT
01:01:10
DIFFERENT EVENTS TELLING PEOPLE TO SIGN UP FOR ALERTS
01:01:13
IN PERSON, TALKING TO THEM ABOUT WHY IT'S IMPORTANT TO
01:01:16
SIGN UP FOR ALERTS AND HANDING OUT WRITTEN MATERIALS
01:01:20
AND LITTLE BRANDED FIRST AID KITS THAT TAKE PEOPLE BACK TO
01:01:21
OUR WEBSITE AND TRY TO GET THEM TO SIGN UP.
01:01:24
SO WE HAVE NOTICED I THINK AS OF THE REPORT IT WAS 20 OR 74
01:01:28
ISH THOUSAND SIGNED UP. I THINK AS OF YESTERDAY WE WERE
01:01:33
JUST UNDER 76,000. SO WE HAVE KIND OF STABILIZED
01:01:36
THAT LONG TERM DECLINE THAT WE'D SEEN IN SUBSCRIBER GROWTH
01:01:39
AND WE HAVE SEEN A STEADY INCREASE IN RECENT MONTHS.
01:01:43
AND ALSO WE WANT TO EXPAND BEYOND ALERT S.F. HAVING AN OPT
01:01:47
IN TEXT SYSTEM IS ONE TOOL IN OUR SYSTEM BUT WE WANT TO
01:01:50
COMBINE THAT OBVIOUSLY WITH SOCIAL MEDIA AND WITH OTHER
01:01:52
SYSTEMS WE'VE LEARNED RECENTLY WITH GETTING READY FOR A WORLD
01:01:55
CUP THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE USE WHATSAPP TO COMMUNICATE INSTEAD
01:01:58
OF TEXTING AND SO WE SET UP WE WORKED WITH WHATSAPP TO SET UP
01:02:02
A ONE WAY ALERTING SYSTEM WHERE PEOPLE CAN EASILY SIGN UP
01:02:06
ONLINE AND WE NOW HAVE 62,000 PEOPLE SUBSCRIBE TO THAT.
01:02:09
SO THAT HAS ALMOST KIND OF DOUBLED THE SIZE OF OUR ALERT
01:02:13
S.F. REACH AND THAT GOES TO PEOPLE IN A VERY SIMILAR WAY.
01:02:16
IT'S A TEXT BASED MESSAGE THAT WE CAN SEND OUT.
01:02:20
>> GREAT. YOU TALKED ABOUT WORLD CUP.
01:02:21
THAT MEANS VISITORS DO WE HAVE A SENSE OF HOW MANY OF THE
01:02:25
SUBSCRIBERS ARE RESIDENTS VERSUS RESIDENTS OR LIKE
01:02:28
REGULAR COMMUTERS VERSUS VISITORS?
01:02:31
WE DON'T WE'VE ASKED METRO TO TRY TO GET SOME MORE DETAILS ON
01:02:32
ON THOSE SUBSCRIBERS AND WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY.
01:02:35
WE KNOW THAT IT DOES FLUCTUATE AND WE DO PROMOTE THE WHATSAPP
01:02:39
PARTICULARLY FOR INTERNATIONAL VISITORS.
01:02:42
I THINK WE SAW IT PEAK AT 65,000.
01:02:44
IT DIPPED DOWN TO 60 THEN BACK UP TO 62.
01:02:47
SO THERE IS SOME TURNOVER IN THAT GROUP BUT I THINK
01:02:50
THAT'S A GOOD THING BECAUSE THAT MEANS THAT YOU HAVE A
01:02:51
RELATIVELY ACTIVE LIST OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ACTUALLY
01:02:54
RECEIVING THOSE AND AND VIEWING THEM.
01:02:57
AND THEN THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S READY TO REPORT YET.
01:02:58
BUT WE'VE APPLIED FOR DIFFERENT GRANTS THAT COULD ALSO ALLOW US
01:03:01
TO OBTAIN AND OBTAIN ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO PROMOTE ALERT S.F.
01:03:05
AND EXPAND OUR REACH THERE. >> GREAT.
01:03:07
>> THANK YOU. >> VICE CHAIR FIELDER HAS SOME
01:03:12
QUESTIONS. THANK YOU.
01:03:15
>> THANK YOU. DEPARTMENT EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT
01:03:16
FOR BEING HERE. I HAVE A QUESTION IN TERMS OF
01:03:19
CITY ORIGINATED MESSAGING. ARE THOSE ADS COMPLIANT FOR US
01:03:22
OF RESIDENTS AND VISITORS WITH DISABILITIES SUCH AS SENSORY
01:03:26
IMPAIRMENTS? >> IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
01:03:27
WE DO TO SOME EXTENT RELY ON OUR VENDOR TO MAKE SURE THAT
01:03:31
WE'RE COMPLIANT WITH THAT BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE AN
01:03:34
IN-HOUSE SOFTWARE THAT PUSHES OUT TEXT MESSAGING BUT WE DO
01:03:38
USE A VENDOR EVERBRIDGE THAT IS STANDARDIZED NATIONALLY
01:03:41
AND THAT DOES HAVE VARIOUS ACCESSIBILITY FEATURES.
01:03:43
SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY MEET THOSE REQUIREMENTS
01:03:46
AND THEN I KNOW THAT CONTRACT IS COMING UP AND THAT THAT WILL
01:03:50
BE PART OF THAT RENEWAL AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY DO.
01:03:52
>> THANK YOU. >> AND THEN MY SECOND QUESTION
01:03:54
WHAT EXAMPLES OF WRITTEN CRITERIA WOULD THE WIRELESS
01:03:57
EMERGENCY ALERTS USE TO ELIMINATE CASE BY CASE DECISION
01:04:02
MAKING AT THE DISCRETION OF THE WATCH CENTER ON DUTY MANAGER?
01:04:06
>> SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE ACTIVELY WORKING ON.
01:04:07
WE AGREE THAT WE NEED A MORE CLEAR CRITERIA FOR WHAT MEETS
01:04:11
THE THRESHOLD FOR A WIRELESS EMERGENCY ALERT.
01:04:14
AND SO THERE'S DIFFERENT BUCKETS THERE AND IT'S
01:04:17
IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE NOT THE ONLY SENDER OF
01:04:18
THOSE WIRELESS EMERGENCY ALERTS.
01:04:21
MOST OF THEM ACTUALLY COME FROM CHP FOR THE MISSING PERSONS
01:04:24
ALERTS. AND THEN ALSO THE NATIONAL
01:04:25
WEATHER SERVICE CAN SEND THEM FOR EXTREME WEATHER.
01:04:29
THEY'VE SENT THEM FOR FLASH FLOOD WARNINGS FOR A TORNADO
01:04:30
WARNING AND THEN FOR HIGH WIND WARNINGS.
01:04:33
AND SO WE ARE WORKING TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE CRITERIA
01:04:38
FOR THE THINGS WE WOULD SEND WHICH INCLUDE, FOR EXAMPLE, LAW
01:04:40
ENFORCEMENT SCENARIOS. WE'RE WORKING WITH S.F. PD
01:04:45
RIGHT NOW TO ESTABLISH A CLEAR, CLEAR CRITERIA FOR IF THERE WAS
01:04:46
AN ACTIVE THREAT OR AN ACTIVE HAZARD.
01:04:49
>> AT WHAT POINT WOULD WE SEND A WIRELESS EMERGENCY ALERT TO A
01:04:52
GIVEN AREA? AND THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE BUT
01:04:55
THAT'S AN ONGOING PROJECT THAT WAS ALREADY UNDERWAY AND WE
01:04:59
JUST REALLY HELPED HIGHLIGHT FOR US THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE
01:05:01
DOING THAT WORK AS DAN INVOLVED WITH AS WELL WITH THESE ALERTS
01:05:07
ALSO COMPRISE MISSING PERSONS ALERTS.
01:05:11
THOSE ARE ALL DONE BY CHP. UNDERSTOOD.
01:05:12
THANK YOU SO MUCH. YEAH, I THINK YOU'VE ASKED YOUR
01:05:18
FIELDER SUPERVISOR WONG ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS TOPIC?
01:05:22
NO. OKAY, GREAT.
01:05:24
THANK YOU ALL VERY MUCH. >> BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC
01:05:26
COMMENT, I'M GOING TO READ THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS AND THEN
01:05:33
AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT I'LL MAKE A MOTION LIKE DIRECTING THE
01:05:35
CLERK TO PREPARE A RESPONSE TO THE SUPERIOR COURT.
01:05:38
BEFORE I DO THAT I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU, MR. CHANDLER FOR
01:05:41
LEADING ON THESE TWO VERY DETAILED REPORTS.
01:05:47
THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT.
01:05:48
REGARDING FINDING 14 WHICH READS THE RESOURCES DEDICATED
01:05:51
TO GROWING AND MAINTAINING ALERT S.F. DO NOT REFLECT THE
01:05:55
SYSTEM'S STATED OPERATIONAL ROLE AS THE FOUNDATION OF THE
01:05:58
CITY'S OPT IN ALERTING AND PROPOSING REDIRECT THE
01:05:59
CLERK TO RESPOND WITH THE FOLLOWING.
01:06:03
RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REPORTS TO THE
01:06:04
PRESIDING JUDGE OF THE SUPERIOR COURT THAT THEY AGREE WITH
01:06:07
FINDING NUMBER OF 14 FOR THE FOLLOWING REASON THE FUNDS
01:06:10
DEDICATED TO GROWING AS ALERT AS AUDIENCE DO NOT REFLECT THE
01:06:14
SYSTEM'S IMPORTANCE. HOWEVER, THIS IS NOT THE ENTIRE
01:06:18
STORY. DM'S LEADERSHIP ITSELF HAS ALSO
01:06:21
NOT PRIORITIZED AUDIENCE GROWTH PUTTING EXPANDED WATCH CENTER
01:06:23
COVERAGE AHEAD IN PRIORITY. REGARDING FINDING 15 WHICH
01:06:25
READS NO STANDING STRATEGY EXISTS FOR REACHING VISITORS OR
01:06:29
COMMUTERS BEYOND EVENT SPECIFIC CAMPAIGNS.
01:06:32
>> I'M PROPOSING THAT WE DIRECT THE CLERK TO RESPOND WITH THE
01:06:34
FOLLOWING. RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF
01:06:36
SUPERVISORS REPORTS TO THE PRESIDING JUDGE OF THE SUPERIOR
01:06:37
COURT THAT THEY AGREE WITH FINDING NUMBER 15 FOR THE
01:06:40
FOLLOWING REASON THE NAME IS NOT LAID OUT ANY STANDING
01:06:43
STRATEGY FOR REACHING VISITORS OR COMMUTERS BEYOND EVENT
01:06:47
SPECIFIC CAMPAIGNS REGARDING FINDING NUMBER 16 WHICH READS
01:06:48
NO UNIFIED MOBILE FIRST MULTI-LANGUAGE PUBLIC
01:06:51
DESIGNATION EXISTS FOR FOR EMERGENCY INFORMATION.
01:06:55
>> I'M PROPOSING WE DIRECT THE CLERK TO RESPOND WITH THE
01:06:56
FOLLOWING RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REPORTS TO
01:07:00
THE PRESIDING JUDGE OF THE SUPERIOR COURT THAT THEY AGREE
01:07:02
WITH FINDING NUMBER 15 FOR THE FOLLOWING REASON NO UNIFIED
01:07:04
MOBILE FIRST MULTI-LANGUAGE PUBLIC DESTINATION EXISTS FOR
01:07:08
EMERGENCY INFORMATION. AND REGARDING RECOMMENDATION
01:07:11
SIX WHICH READS BY THE 1ST OF JULY 2028 THE MAYOR AND THE
01:07:14
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS SHOULD DETERMINE EXCUSE ME SHOULD
01:07:18
DETERMINE WHETHER TO RESOURCE ALERT S F TO THE EXTENT SET
01:07:25
FORTH IN DEEM STUDY AND IF NOT DETERMINE WHAT STEPS WOULD BE
01:07:29
NECESSARY FOR AN ALERT S.F. GROWTH STRATEGY.
01:07:33
I'M PROPOSING WE DIRECT THE CLERK TO RESPOND WITH THE
01:07:36
FOLLOWING RESOLVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REPORTS
01:07:38
THE RECOMMENDATION NUMBER SIX WILL NOT BE IMPLEMENTED BECAUSE
01:07:41
IT IS NOT WARRANTED OR REASONABLE.
01:07:42
DISRUPT RECOMMENDATION WILL BE ADDRESSED IN THE CITY'S ANNUAL
01:07:48
BUDGET PROCESS. >> COLLEAGUES, ANY QUESTIONS
01:07:52
BEFORE WE GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT? >> OKAY MADAM CLERK, WE DO
01:07:56
PUBLIC COMMENT PLEASE. YES.
01:07:57
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THE ON THESE ITEMS
01:08:00
SHALL LINE THEM DOWN ON THE SIDE BY THE WINDOWS ALL
01:08:02
SPEAKERS WILL HAVE ONE MINUTE. >> MR. CHAIR, WE HAVE NO PUBLIC
01:08:07
COMMENT FOR ITEMS FIVE AND SIX. >> THANK YOU SUE AND I'LL SPEAK
01:08:11
SPEAKING PUBLIC COMMENT PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOW CLOSED.
01:08:14
>> I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO AMEND ITEM NUMBER SIX AS PRESENTED
01:08:18
EARLIER MADAM CLERK. >> CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE
01:08:23
ROLL? YES AND ON THE MOTION TO AMEND
01:08:26
ITEM SIX AS PRESENTED NUMBER WANG REMEMBER WANG I BY SHEER
01:08:30
FILTER BY SHEER FILTER I CHAIR CHERYL HI CHAIR CHERYL I HAVE
01:08:37
THREE EYES. >> THANK YOU.
01:08:38
THE MOTION PASSES. I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO SEND ITEM
01:08:42
NUMBER SIX TO THE FULL BOARD WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION
01:08:45
. >> MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU PLEASE
01:08:46
CALL THE ROLL? YES AND ON THE MOTION TO
01:08:48
FORWARD ITEM SIX THE FULL BOARD WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION
01:08:52
AS AMENDED. >> REMEMBER WONG REMEMBER WONG
01:08:56
I FISCHER FILTER SO I SURE FILTER I CHAIR CHERYL I SURE
01:09:00
CHERYL I HAVE THREE EYES THANK YOU.
01:09:01
>> THE MOTION PASSES AND I'D LIKE TO MOVE TO FILE ITEM
01:09:04
NUMBER FIVE. >> YES I'M ON THE MOTION TO
01:09:08
FILE ITEM FIVE REMEMBER WONG REMEMBER WONG I BUY SURE FILTER
01:09:12
RIGHT? SURE FILTER I CHAIR CHERYL HI.
01:09:16
>> SURE. CHERYL I HAVE THREE EYES.
01:09:17
THANK YOU. THE MOTION PASSES.
01:09:19
MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL ITEMS NUMBER SEVEN
01:09:23
AND EIGHT TOGETHER? >> YES.
01:09:26
ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS A HEARING ON THE 2025 2026 CIVIL GRAND
01:09:29
JURY REPORT ENTITLED RED FLAG AND ITEM NUMBER EIGHT IS A
01:09:36
RESOLUTION RESPONDING TO THE PRESIDING JUDGE OF THE SUPERIOR
01:09:41
COURT ON THE FINDINGS ARE RECOMMENDATIONS CONTAINED
01:09:44
IN THE 2025 2026 CIVIL GRAND JURY REPORT ENTITLED AND URGING
01:09:52
THE MAYOR TO CAUSE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF ACCEPTED
01:09:53
FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS THROUGH HIS DEPARTMENT HEADS
01:09:57
AND THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET.
01:10:00
>> THANK YOU FOR THIS REPORT. WE HAVE RICK CARROLL FROM THE
01:10:01
CIVIL GRAND JURY. WELCOME AS WELL AS SOPHIA
01:10:05
KETTLER FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE I BELIEVE OTHER RIO.
01:10:11
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO NOW TURN IT OVER TO MY COLLEAGUE SUPERVISOR
01:10:14
WONG WHO'S GOING TO BE LEADING US THROUGH THE NEXT TWO GRAND
01:10:18
JURY REPORTS. >> SUPERVISOR WONG OKAY.
01:10:19
THANK YOU, CHAIR CHERYL AND I WANT TO BEGIN BY THANKING THE
01:10:22
MEMBERS OF THE CIVIL GRAND JURY FOR THE TIME AND WORK THAT WENT
01:10:26
INTO THIS REPORT. WILDFIRE MAY NOT BE THE FIRST
01:10:29
HAZARD THAT COMES TO MIND WHEN PEOPLE THINK ABOUT SAN
01:10:33
FRANCISCO BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO CONSIDER WE ARE A DENSE COASTAL
01:10:36
CITY BUT WE ARE ALSO A CITY WITH SIGNIFICANT PARKS, NATURAL
01:10:41
AREAS AND NEIGHBORHOODS THAT SIT ALONGSIDE THEM.
01:10:44
AND THE FIRES THAT WE HAVE SEEN ACROSS CALIFORNIA ARE A
01:10:45
REMINDER THAT CITIES NEED TO UNDERSTAND THEIR
01:10:48
VULNERABILITIES BEFORE AN EMERGENCY OCCURS.
01:10:52
THIS IS A PERSONAL TO ME AS A NATIONAL GUARDSMAN I'VE BEEN
01:10:54
DEPLOYED TO THE CAMP FIRE, THE TUBBS FIRE AND NUMEROUS OTHER
01:10:57
ONES THAT I CAN'T EVEN REMEMBER .
01:11:00
GLEN CANYON IS ONE OF THOSE PLACES WHERE NATURAL AREAS
01:11:04
HOMES, SCHOOLS, ROADS AND PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE COME
01:11:08
TOGETHER. >> THE CANYON ALSO CONTAINS
01:11:09
AGING EUCALYPTUS GROVES AND ACCUMULATED VEGETATION
01:11:13
WHICH RAISES IMPORTANT QUESTIONS ABOUT HOW THOSE AREAS
01:11:16
ARE MAINTAINED AND HOW WE MANAGE POTENTIAL FIRE FUELS.
01:11:20
ALONGSIDE THE OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL AND RECREATIONAL
01:11:21
PRIORITIES OF OUR OPEN SPACES AND MORE BROADLY THIS IS ALSO
01:11:24
ABOUT PREPAREDNESS AND MITIGATION UNDERSTANDING
01:11:27
POTENTIAL RISKS REDUCING THE MURRAY CAN AND BEING PREPARED
01:11:31
TO RESPOND WHEN NEEDED. SO I APPRECIATE THE CIVIL GRAND
01:11:33
JURY TAKING THE TIME TO EXAMINE THIS ISSUE CLOSELY AND GIVING
01:11:36
US THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION PUBLICLY.
01:11:40
>> WE'RE JOINED TODAY BY RICK CARROLL FROM THE CIVIL GRAND
01:11:43
JURY. MR. CARROLL, THANK YOU FOR
01:11:47
BEING HERE. I'LL TURN OVER TO YOU TO
01:11:48
PRESENT THE JURY'S REPORT. >> WELL, THANK YOU FOR YOUR
01:11:51
TIME. SUPERVISORS WE JOKED THAT
01:11:53
EUCALYPTUS IS SAN FRANCISCO'S MOST POLITICAL TREE.
01:11:58
>> THE NATIVE PLANT SOCIETY PEOPLE HATE IT AND A.K.A TREE
01:12:02
HUGGERS LOVE IT. IF YOU ATTEND ANY OF THESE
01:12:06
FIRES OR PUBLIC HEARINGS THEY GENERATE MAYBE 400 500 COMMENTS
01:12:12
FROM PEOPLE WHICH KIND OF PARALYZES THE BUREAUCRACY
01:12:16
IN ACTION. >> EUCALYPTUS IS AN INVASIVE
01:12:20
SPECIES. THIS IS NOT OUR OPINION.
01:12:21
THIS IS DOCUMENTED IN THE SIGNIFICANT NATIONAL RESOURCE
01:12:24
MANAGEMENT PLAN WHICH IS THE POLICY DOCUMENT THAT GOVERNS.
01:12:29
OTHERWISE KNOWN AS SIN RAMP WHICH GOVERNS GLEN CANYON.
01:12:32
SO EUCALYPTUS WHICH WERE PLANTED AS PART OF THESE GET
01:12:35
RICH QUICK SCHEMES IN THE 1850S BY SPECULATORS.
01:12:39
PEOPLE THINK OF THEM AS FORESTS ACTUALLY THEY'RE PLANTATIONS SO
01:12:42
PEOPLE LIKE SUTRO AND JACK LONDON.
01:12:46
I BELIEVE JACK WHEN LINDA WENT BROKE SPECULATING ON
01:12:47
EUCALYPTUS. IT'S HIGHLY FLAMMABLE.
01:12:50
ON A SCALE OF 1 TO 10 ONE BEING MOST FLAMMABLE TO TEN BEING
01:12:54
LEAST FLAMMABLE IT IS ONE THE SAME AS DRY GRASS HAS VERY OILY
01:12:58
LEAVES THAT CAN BURST INTO FLAMES.
01:13:02
THE 1991 OAKLAND HILLS FIRE THEY ESTIMATED THAT 70% OF THE
01:13:06
ENERGY FROM THAT FIRE WAS GENERATED BY EUCALYPTUS.
01:13:11
THERE'S NO NATURAL ENEMIES. WE JOKED IN THE GRAND JURY
01:13:13
ABOUT MAYBE IMPORTING KOALAS OR SOMETHING ELSE LIKE THAT TO
01:13:16
HELP WITH THE MANAGEMENT OF THE EUCALYPTUS.
01:13:19
THE EAST BAY COMMUNITIES ARE VERY ACTIVE WITH FUEL REDUCTION
01:13:21
PROGRAMS UCSF, CALIFORNIA, BERKELEY, LAWRENCE LIVERMORE
01:13:28
LABS HAVE ACTIVE REMOVAL PROGRAMS.
01:13:29
BERKELEY HAS A VERY INNOVATIVE PROGRAM WHERE THEY HAVE A ONE
01:13:33
TIME FREE CLEANUP OF EUCALYPTUS LITTER.
01:13:37
YOU COULD SEE THE PHOTO ON THE SIDE THAT'S LITTERED THAT'S
01:13:41
BUILT UP IN THE BASE OF THE TREES IN GLEN CANYON.
01:13:44
THE STUDIES HAVE SHOWN THAT THE TREES IN CALIFORNIA GENERATE
01:13:48
TWICE OR THREE TIMES AS MUCH DEBRIS AS IN THEIR NATIVE
01:13:52
ENVIRONMENT IN TASMANIA THE SYN RAMP DOCUMENT AS WE DISCUSSED
01:13:59
GOVERNS MANAGEMENT OF OF THE GLEN CANYON VEGETATION.
01:14:03
THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A SUPPRESSION PROGRAM IN WHAT
01:14:04
THEY CALL MANAGEMENT AREA ONE MANAGEMENT AREA TO WHERE THEY
01:14:08
REMOVE OR OR PUT PESTICIDES ON IT.
01:14:12
THEY ARE ACTIVE REMOVAL FROM THE REPAIRING WATERSHED
01:14:15
IN PLACE CREEK EUCALYPTUS CONSUME MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF
01:14:20
WATER. MUSSOLINI PLANTED THEM IN THE
01:14:24
PONTINE MARSHES TO DRAIN THE PONTINE MARSHES IN THE IN THE
01:14:27
FASCIST THEORY OF THE TREES. WILDFIRE RISK IN SAN FRANCISCO.
01:14:35
THE AGENCIES DEFERRED TO CAL FIRE THE MAP ON THE SIDE THE
01:14:39
INFAMOUS FIRE HAZARD SEVERITY ZONE MAP IF HSC MAP YOU SEE
01:14:46
IT'S RATED IN TO 2025 THE RATING IS DESIGNATED AS LOW.
01:14:50
THE ONLY HIGH FIRE DANGER IS IN ANGEL ISLAND.
01:14:53
COINCIDENTALLY THERE'S A LOT OF EUCALYPTUS IN ANGEL ISLAND
01:14:57
AND THERE'S IT WAS PLANTED BY THE ARMY AND IN THE 1900S
01:15:00
AND IT'S BEING MANAGED RIGHT NOW.
01:15:04
SO PRIOR TO TO 20 2025 THERE WAS A 2007 MAP WHICH SHOWED
01:15:07
MANY MODERATE FIRE RISK AREAS IN MOUNT DAVIDSON GLEN CANYON
01:15:11
PLACES LIKE THAT. SO THE JURY ASKED WELL WHAT'S
01:15:16
CHANGED IN THE INTERIM? >> AND SO AS A CONSEQUENCE OF
01:15:22
THIS THAT THESE AGENCIES THEY DON'T INVEST IN WILDFIRE
01:15:23
ABATEMENT. THEY THINK THAT THE FOG IS
01:15:27
GOING TO SAVE US. FORTUNATELY WE MET WITH SAN
01:15:30
FRANCISCO FIRE DEPARTMENT OFFICIALS AND THEY CONCLUDED
01:15:32
THAT WILDFIRE RISK IS REAL. EACH YEAR WE HAVE MULTIPLE
01:15:35
DIABLO WIND EVENTS WHAT THEY CALL RED FLAG WARNINGS.
01:15:40
IN 2019 THERE WERE EIGHT OF THEM FOUR IN OCTOBER ALONE
01:15:44
AND WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, HILLY TOPOGRAPHY AND ZERO LOT LINES
01:15:47
DENSE WOOD CONSTRUCTION THAT ONCE THE FIRE STARTS IT WOULD
01:15:51
SPREAD VERY, VERY RAPIDLY. WE ALSO REVIEWED SAN FRANCISCO
01:15:54
FIRE DEPARTMENT REPORTS. >> THEY HAD 2 OR 3 ARSON
01:15:58
INCIDENTS IN GLEN CANYON WHERE THEY FOUND GAS CANS ALSO
01:16:02
HOMELESS ENCAMPMENT FIRES. THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT SAN
01:16:06
FRANCISCO FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS PREPARED FOR WILDFIRE EVENTS.
01:16:10
>> THEY HAVE WE'VE REVIEWED PRE FIRE PLANS WHERE THEY THEY
01:16:13
IDENTIFY ALL THE SOURCES OF WATER HYDRANTS WHO WHO THEY
01:16:18
WOULD CONTACT YOU KNOW, VARIOUS EVENTS SHOULD A WILDFIRE TAKE
01:16:21
PLACE. THEY PURCHASED SPECIALIZED
01:16:24
VEHICLES OR A PICKUP TRUCK TYPE VEHICLES.
01:16:29
THEY HAVE SPECIAL WILDLAND HOSE THAT'S VERY LIGHT THAT THEY CAN
01:16:30
BRING IN THERE. AND THEN THEY ALSO HAVE ALL
01:16:33
THEIR TRAINEES TAKE WILDFIRE TRAINING SO THEY'RE ALL
01:16:37
CERTIFIED FOR WILDFIRE EVENTS. >> THE ONE THING THAT WE FOUND
01:16:43
IT'S DIFFICULT TO SEE ON THE MAP AT THE UPPER RIGHT HAND
01:16:46
SIDE BUT GLEN CANYON THE VEGETATION MANAGEMENT IS SPLIT
01:16:49
BETWEEN FOUR DIFFERENT SECTORS. THE REC AND PARK DEPARTMENT,
01:16:54
THE PWP YOU SEE AND THE SCHOOL DISTRICT.
01:16:57
>> ONE THING THAT JUMPED OUT TO US IN READING THE AFTER OUR THE
01:17:02
AFTER ACTION REPORT FROM THE PALISADES FIRE IS THAT THEY
01:17:06
CONCLUDED THAT BRUSH MANAGEMENT RESPONSIBILITIES WERE SPLIT
01:17:09
BETWEEN LOCAL, COUNTY AND STATE DEPARTMENTS AND THAT THESE THAT
01:17:13
THESE DIFFERENT JURISDICTIONS DID NOT COMMUNICATE AND CREATED
01:17:17
WILDFIRE DANGER. >> SO EACH OF THESE DIFFERENT
01:17:21
SECTORS HAVE DIFFERENT MANAGEMENT APPROACHES.
01:17:24
OUR PD PURSUES WHAT'S CALLED THE DEFENSIBLE SPACE STRATEGY
01:17:28
OTHERWISE KNOWN AS MOWING THE GRASS.
01:17:31
SO THEY DON'T ACTIVELY CUT DOWN TREES OR DO THINGS LIKE THAT.
01:17:33
THEY JUST THEY CLEAR THE GRASS 30FT FROM FROM STRUCTURES.
01:17:39
P YOU SEE YOU CAN SEE THEY'RE VERY AGGRESSIVE.
01:17:40
THERE'S A PICTURE OF THE CLEAR CUT IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR
01:17:44
AND THEY'RE IN THERE REPLANTING NATIVE SPECIES AND SPENDING A
01:17:48
LOT OF TIME AND ENERGY. DPW HAS WHAT'S CALLED A WORSE
01:17:54
FIRST POLICY WHICH BASICALLY LEADS TO DELAYED MAINTENANCE.
01:17:58
SO THE THE THE BROWN SECTION IN THE MAP THERE THAT'S THE DPW
01:18:02
ZONE BEHIND THE SILVER HILLS DAYCARE CENTER.
01:18:06
IT'S EXTREMELY STEEP, VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TERRAIN
01:18:09
AND BASICALLY VERY LITTLE HAS BEEN DONE IN THERE FOR SEVERAL
01:18:13
YEARS. THE SCHOOL DISTRICT IS VERY
01:18:16
INNOVATIVE. THEY ACTIVELY COMMUNICATE WITH
01:18:17
CAL FIRE AND THEY BRING IN GOATS TO GRAZE THE AREA SO
01:18:21
THEY HAVE THE GOAT HERDS IN THERE.
01:18:24
THE ONE THING THAT WE DID UNCOVER YOU KNOW, DURING OUR
01:18:26
INVESTIGATION IS THAT THE DPW AS A RESULT OF OF CITIZEN
01:18:32
COMPLAINTS AND ONE OF THESE THINGS THEY DID A TOUR AND THEY
01:18:36
CONNECTED WITH CAL FIRE AND I BELIEVE THEY'VE COMPLETED A
01:18:40
MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING WHERE THE CAL FIRE PEOPLE WILL
01:18:41
COME IN AND DO VEGETATION MANAGEMENT WORK THE CAL FIRE
01:18:45
PEOPLE. IT'S LIKE THE ARMY THEY NEED TO
01:18:48
TRAIN WITH THE EQUIPMENT. THEY NEED TO USE THE TRACK THE
01:18:49
CHAINSAWS AND THIS SORT OF STUFF AND THEY THEY NEED TO
01:18:52
FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS. SO THEY GO IN THERE AND THEY
01:18:55
THEY RAISE THE CANOPY, CUT DOWN LOW HANGING LIMBS AND THEY
01:18:59
REMOVE THE DEBRIS. SO HOPEFULLY THIS WILL BE DONE
01:19:01
AT SOMETIME IN THE FUTURE IN THE GLEN CANYON AREA.
01:19:06
AND THE JURY FEELS THAT THIS IS A TEMPLATE FOR OTHER AREAS,
01:19:08
OTHER NATURAL AREAS IN SAN FRANCISCO TO GET CAL FIRE
01:19:12
INVOLVED. SO THE JURY CAME UP WITH SEVEN
01:19:18
FINDINGS AND 17 RECOMMENDATIONS.
01:19:19
I'LL GO THROUGH THEM BRIEFLY. BASICALLY WE CONCLUDED THAT
01:19:22
EUCALYPTUS ON IRRIGATED UNMANAGED EUCALYPTUS GROVES
01:19:26
PRESENT THE WILDFIRE RISK RISK AND THE CITY SHOULD MAKE PLANS
01:19:30
FOR IT. WE ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT THE
01:19:33
CITY UNIFY VEGETATION MANAGEMENT IN GLEN CANYON UNDER
01:19:37
ONE ENTITY SPECIFICALLY MAYBE REC AND PARK BECAUSE THEY RUN
01:19:40
THE PARK AND THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE ARE NAMED
01:19:44
RESPONSIBLE UNDER THE THE SIN RAMP PLAN.
01:19:48
WE ALSO CONCLUDED THAT THE DPW NEEDS TO MANAGE THEIR SECTOR
01:19:49
MORE AGGRESSIVELY AND ACTIVELY PURSUE THE THE MOU WITH CAL
01:19:53
FIRE. WE ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT THE
01:19:56
CITY DEVELOP FIRE MITIGATION PLANS FOR WILD WILD LAND
01:20:00
PROPERTIES SUCH AS MACLAREN PARK AND OTHER AREAS SUCH SUCH
01:20:04
A FOREST. THERE THERE CURRENTLY WAS THERE
01:20:11
IS A URBAN FOREST PLAN PHASE ONE WHICH TALKS ABOUT TREES ON
01:20:14
STREET TREES. THERE IS A PHASE TWO WHICH
01:20:18
HASN'T BEEN STARTED THAT TALKS ABOUT TREES IN OPEN SPACES
01:20:21
AND THEN WE ALSO RECOMMENDED THAT THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS
01:20:24
SHARE THEIR MANAGEMENT PRACTICES AND TECHNOLOGY.
01:20:25
WE ALSO CONCLUDED THAT S.F. F.D. HAS PREPARED FOR WILDFIRE
01:20:29
EVENTS. SO YOU KNOW WE PRESENTED A
01:20:33
MATRIX, A SPREADSHEET WITH ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS AND THE
01:20:40
SCORECARD IS IS SHOWS BASICALLY WE HAD TO AGREES TO OR
01:20:44
IMPLEMENTED FREEZE WILL BE IMPLEMENTED.
01:20:45
THAT'S THE GOOD NEWS. WE GOT SIX KNOWS WILL NOT BE
01:20:51
IMPLEMENTED. THIS IS TYPICALLY BECAUSE OF
01:20:54
THE URBAN FORESTRY COUNCIL HAS BEEN DISSOLVED AND SO WE HAD A
01:20:58
COUPLE OF RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE URBAN FORESTRY COUNCIL.
01:20:59
SO THAT'S GONE BY THE WAYSIDE. WE HAD 15 REQUIRES MORE
01:21:03
INFORMATION, MORE STUDY AND WE HAD 17 PARTIAL PARTIAL
01:21:07
DISAGREEMENTS. SO THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT WE GOT
01:21:11
NO ACTUAL DISAGREEMENTS AND THE PARTIAL DISAGREEMENTS THEY'RE
01:21:15
KIND OF DIFFICULT TO DECIPHER. I THINK THE TERMINOLOGY TO
01:21:19
DESCRIBE THEM WOULD BE WORD SALAD.
01:21:24
>> SO WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS
01:21:27
PRIMARILY INVOLVED WITH BUDGETARY ISSUES.
01:21:28
SO I'D LIKE TO THROW AROUND SOME NUMBERS HERE.
01:21:32
>> SO OUR RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT THEY UPDATE THE URBAN
01:21:36
FOREST PLAN FOR TREES AND OPEN SPACES PHASE TWO.
01:21:40
THERE'S NO FUNDING OR SCHEDULE TO DO THIS AT THIS POINT
01:21:44
IN TIME. AND AS I MENTIONED, THE URBAN
01:21:45
FORESTRY COUNCIL HAS BEEN DISSOLVED AND THEY PLAYED A KEY
01:21:48
ROLE ALONG WITH THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT IN DEVELOPING THIS
01:21:50
URBAN FOREST PLAN. AND SO THIS CREATES A MISSING
01:21:55
COORDINATION FUNCTION BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT PUC, DPW, ALL
01:21:59
THESE AGENCIES THAT HAVE URBAN FOREST AREAS.
01:22:02
SO IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE BUDGETS DPI W SPENDS 24.3
01:22:09
MILLION ON URBAN FORESTRY WHICH IS FANTASTIC.
01:22:10
THIS WAS THE RESULT OF PROPERTY I BELIEVE IN 2017 WHICH CREATED
01:22:16
PERMANENT FUNDING FOR STREET TREE MANAGEMENT.
01:22:19
PUC HAS A VERY BIG BUDGET 14 AT LEAST 15 MILLION POSSIBLY MORE
01:22:26
REC AND PARK 6.1 MILLION FOR FOR MANAGEMENT OUT OF 131,000
01:22:33
TREES 3200 ACRES. POTENTIALLY 80% OF THE CANOPY
01:22:37
IN SAN FRANCISCO. AND THEY HAVE THE SMALLEST
01:22:41
BUDGET. SO WE DEAL WITH PROCESS NOT
01:22:44
POLICY BUT THE NUMBERS ARE CLEAR FOR YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER.
01:22:48
ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THIS THE NECESSITY FOR THE PHASE TWO
01:22:55
OF THE URBAN FORESTRY PLAN IS THAT THE FORCE INDUSTRY IS OUT
01:22:58
OF DATE. SO SINCE RAMP WAS DEVELOPED
01:23:01
IN 2007 AND SO THE TREE MANAGEMENT INVENTORY WORK THAT
01:23:05
WAS DEVELOPED BY SAN FRANCISCO STATE PROBABLY TEN YEARS
01:23:08
EARLIER THE LAST INVENTORY IN GLEN GLEN CANYON WAS THE
01:23:12
HORT SCIENCE REPORT IN 2012 AND THAT REPORT CONCLUDED THAT
01:23:18
80% OF THE EUCALYPTUS THAT THEY SURVEYED AT THE TIME WERE
01:23:20
IN BAD SHAPE. SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE DO
01:23:23
SOME ANALYSIS OF THIS. >> SO THEN IN TERMS OF WHAT WE
01:23:27
CONSIDER A DEPARTMENTAL COORDINATION, THERE SHOULD BE
01:23:30
SOME TECHNOLOGY SHARING ON THE UPPER RIGHT HAND SIDE.
01:23:35
I DON'T KNOW IT'S DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO SEE BUT I'VE IDENTIFIED
01:23:38
A SPECIFIC TREE ON VAN NESS AVENUE OVER THERE ACROSS FROM
01:23:42
CITY HALL SO IT'S IN THAT DIRECTION.
01:23:43
SO THE DPW HAS A SYSTEM WHERE YOU COULD IDENTIFY SPECIFIC
01:23:47
TREES AND WHEN THEY WERE LAST SERVICED AND THAT SORT OF
01:23:51
THING. REC AND PARK HAS NOTHING LIKE
01:23:54
THIS. THEY'RE THE TECHNOLOGY
01:23:55
STEPCHILD FOR THIS TYPE OF GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION SYSTEMS.
01:23:59
AND AT THE BOTTOM YOU SEE THAT DPW HAS AN ACTIVE LIGHT HOUR.
01:24:05
THIS IS AUTOMATIC SCANNING THING WHERE THEY CAN GET OUT
01:24:08
IN PICKUP TRUCKS AND SCAN THE STREET AND AUTOMATICALLY
01:24:10
CAPTURE THE THE TREES AND THAT SORT OF DATA AND PUT IT INTO
01:24:13
THE INTO THE THE DATABASE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.
01:24:17
THEY ALSO HAVE WILDFIRE PREDICTIVE MODELING TOOLS.
01:24:20
AND THERE'S NO SHARING OF KNOW HOW OR LICENSING EFFICIENCY.
01:24:25
SO REC AND PARK IS USING TREE PLOTTER VERY LIMITED TREE
01:24:32
PLOTTER IMPLEMENTATION VERSUS DPW HAS SPENT MILLIONS WITH
01:24:36
ESRI WHICH IS A LONG STANDING GIS VENDOR.
01:24:42
AND SO WE RECOMMENDED THAT BASIC WILDFIRE MITIGATION PLANS
01:24:47
BE BE PUT TOGETHER. IF YOU LOOK AT THE THE REC
01:24:51
AND PARK WEBSITE THEY HAVE WILDFIRE PLANNING COMING SOON.
01:24:54
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WILL BE IMPLEMENTED.
01:24:56
THEY SAID THAT THEY WILL PUT THEIR WILDFIRE PLANNING STUFF
01:24:58
UP ON THE ON THE WEBSITE. AND SO THE FIRE DEPARTMENT DOES
01:25:02
WILDFIRE DRILLS. AND SO THE FEEDBACK THAT THEY
01:25:05
GET LIKE WELL THE GATE WAS LOCKED OR YOU KNOW, THIS IS
01:25:09
VERY, VERY DIFFICULT OR YOU SHOULD CUT DOWN THESE TREES.
01:25:11
WE FELT THAT THEY SHOULD SHARE THIS TYPE OF AFTER ACTION
01:25:13
REPORT WITH THEIR RESPECTIVE AGENCIES LIKE REC AND PARK OR
01:25:17
DPW. >> AND SO LAST IN CONCLUSION WE
01:25:21
JUST WANT TO SAY WILDFIRE RISK IS LOW BUT IT IS NOT ZERO.
01:25:24
AND SO WE HAVE THESE DIABLO WIND EVENTS EVERY OCTOBER.
01:25:28
THEY OCCUR THEY'RE OCCURRING WITH MORE FREQUENCY EACH YEAR
01:25:32
WITH CLIMATE CHANGE AND THAT SORT OF THING.
01:25:35
WE BELIEVE THIS CAL FIRE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING IS
01:25:39
A TEMPLATE FOR WORK WITH OTHER NATURAL AREAS.
01:25:42
I THINK THE MORE WE HAVE CAL FIRE IN SAN FRANCISCO WORKING
01:25:45
WITH OUR TEAM THE BETTER. THEY'RE THE EXPERTS IN WILDFIRE
01:25:50
ACTIVITIES AND THEIR SOURCE STUFF.
01:25:51
AND SO WE WE CAN'T REMOVE ALL THE EUCALYPTUS MAGICALLY THEY
01:25:57
STABILIZE HILLSIDES. IT'S COSTLY.
01:25:58
THEY'RE WIDELY DISPERSED BUT GRADUALLY, YOU KNOW, THIN THEM,
01:26:02
REPLACE THEM WITH NATIVE SPECIES LIKE COASTLINE,
01:26:06
LIVESTOCK. AND WE FEEL THAT CITY AGENCIES
01:26:09
MUST INVEST MORE IN WILDFIRE PREVENTION.
01:26:10
>> SO THE THE JURY OPERATES IN TOP SECRET FORMAT.
01:26:14
WE CAN'T TELL YOU WHO WE TALK TO OR WHO ADVISES AND STUFF
01:26:17
LIKE THAT. BUT I DID WANT TO PUT OUT A
01:26:19
MEMORIAM TO JAKE SIGG WHO WAS ONE OF THE LEADING GUYS
01:26:24
IN DEVELOPING THE NATURAL AREAS.
01:26:25
HE DIED THIS YEAR. HE'S ONE OF THE KEY NATIVE
01:26:29
PLANT RESTORATION EXPERTS. >> AND WITH THAT, THANK YOU
01:26:33
VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT
01:26:36
PRESENTATION. COLLEAGUES, ANY QUESTIONS?
01:26:40
>> I HAVE 1 OR 2 QUESTIONS. >> SO YOU PRODUCE THREE
01:26:51
PREVIOUS ITERATIONS OF THE PHAGE AS ZMAPP SHOWED MODERATE
01:26:54
FIRE RISK IN LAKE MERCED, SOME GROVE, THE PRESIDIO MOUNTAIN,
01:26:59
DAVIDSON GLEN CANYON PARK, SUTRO HEIGHTS BAYVIEW PARK,
01:27:02
YOUR ONE ISLAND AND OTHER WOODED NEIGHBORHOODS.
01:27:04
THESE ARE NO LONGER ON THE MAP. >> NO THEY'RE NOT.
01:27:07
AND THE MAP THEY'VE CHANGED THE THERE'S ACTUALLY QUITE A LOT OF
01:27:11
CONTROVERSY ABOUT THE NEW MAP. IF YOU LOOK THE PALISADES
01:27:15
RESIDENTS RESIDENTS ARE UP IN ARMS BECAUSE THE FIRE DANGER
01:27:18
WAS WAS LOWER AND THEN THEY UPDATED THE MAP AND THIS SORT
01:27:23
OF THING. AND THERE'S ALSO CONTROVERSY
01:27:24
IN BERKELEY WHERE THEY'VE CHANGED THE RATINGS.
01:27:27
SO WHAT'S REALLY INTERESTING IS THAT YOU CAN'T FIND THE 2007
01:27:32
MAP ON THE INTERNET ANYMORE. YOU KNOW IT'S DISAPPEARED
01:27:36
AND WE SPECIFICALLY ASKED SEVERAL PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, LIKE
01:27:37
IN THE FIRE DEPARTMENT AND OTHER PLACES IS THERE A
01:27:41
CORRELATION BETWEEN THIS MODERATE DANGER
01:27:43
AND HYPERTENSIVE EUCALYPTUS IN THIS AREA?
01:27:44
AND THE ANSWER IN ALL CASES WAS YES.
01:27:48
>> AND WILL THE FIRE HAZARD ZONES MAP BE UPDATED?
01:27:51
>> THE FIRE HAZARD MAP WAS SUPPOSED TO BE UPDATED EVERY
01:27:55
TWO YEARS I BELIEVE, BUT THE 2007 MAP WAS IN EFFECT UNTIL
01:27:59
ALL OF A SUDDEN 2025. SO THEY GOT IN GEAR AFTER THE
01:28:03
PALISADES FIRE AND I BELIEVE THIS MAP WAS GENERATED
01:28:06
IN FEBRUARY. SO THE PALISADES MAP THE
01:28:10
PALISADES FIRE WAS IN JANUARY. SO YOU KNOW, NOT TO SPREAD
01:28:14
CONSPIRACY THEORIES BUT THERE'S SOMETHING UNIQUE ABOUT THAT.
01:28:15
YEAH. THANK YOU.
01:28:18
AND I GUESS THIS IS A QUESTION FOR ANY DEPARTMENT WHO'S HERE
01:28:22
AND SO I'LL RESERVE MY QUESTION FOR LATER.
01:28:25
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH. BACK TO CHAIR SHERYL I THINK
01:28:29
YOU GOT YOUR FIELD DEVICE WRONG.
01:28:30
>> YES. >> THE REPORT FOCUSES HEAVILY
01:28:33
ON CONDITIONS IN GLEN CANYON BUT FINDING ONE SPEAKS MORE
01:28:37
BROADLY ABOUT THE EUCALYPTUS CANOPY ACROSS SAN FRANCISCO.
01:28:41
HOW DID THE JURY DETERMINE THAT WHAT IT OBSERVED IN GLEN CANYON
01:28:44
COULD APPROPRIATELY BE APPLIED CITYWIDE?
01:28:48
>> WELL, SO THE SECRET ABOUT THE GRAND JURY IS THAT TO TWO
01:28:52
PEOPLE CAN'T DECIDE WHAT WHICH TV SHOW TO WATCH AND THEY HAVE
01:28:57
19 PEOPLE TRYING TO DECIDE WHAT TO INVESTIGATE AND THAT SORT OF
01:29:00
THING. SO THE BIGGEST THING WE HAVE TO
01:29:01
DO IS KIND OF HARNESS OUR RESOURCES.
01:29:05
>> SO WE FOCUSED ON GLEN CANYON BECAUSE WE DIDN'T WANT TO GET
01:29:06
CARRIED AWAY AND EXPAND THE SCOPE TO YOU KNOW, CITYWIDE BUT
01:29:12
THE EUCALYPTUS CONDITIONS ARE BASICALLY THE SAME IN IN ALL
01:29:16
AREAS, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT YOU SEE IS THAT SUTRO HEIGHTS, THE
01:29:22
UCSF MANAGEMENT AREA THEY'VE BEEN VERY, VERY AGGRESSIVE ON
01:29:27
REMOVING THE EUCALYPTUS AS WELL AS THE PRESIDIO VERY, VERY
01:29:30
AGGRESSIVE WHERE THEY CAN BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO MAINTAIN
01:29:31
THE HISTORICAL CHARACTERISTIC OF THE FOREST THERE YOU GOT
01:29:34
THIS FOREST THAT WAS PLANTED BY THE ARMY AND SO THEY'RE
01:29:38
ACTUALLY TRYING TO REPLACE THE BLUE GUM TASMANIAN BLUE GUM
01:29:41
WITH WITH LESS FLAMMABLE EUCALYPTUS IN THEIR AREAS WHICH
01:29:43
IS PRETTY INTERESTING. >> AND THEN FINDING TWO SAYS
01:29:47
FOR DIFFERENT AGENCIES MANAGE VEGETATION GLEN CANYON WITHOUT
01:29:51
ENOUGH COORDINATION OR CLEAR ACCOUNTABILITY FOR FIRE
01:29:54
PREVENTION. WHAT DID THE GRAND JURY SEE
01:29:55
DURING ITS INVESTIGATION THAT CONVINCED YOU THE DIVISION OF
01:29:59
RESPONSIBILITY ITSELF WAS CREATING THE PROBLEM?
01:30:02
>> WELL THE DPW ZONE JUST SAYS HAD NO MAINTENANCE IN IT AT ALL
01:30:06
AND SO IF A EUCALYPTUS FALLS IN THAT AREA THEN RICK AND PARK
01:30:10
HAS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO CLEAN IT UP BEHIND THE LIKE THE
01:30:13
PUBLIC DAYCARE CENTER AND THAT SORT OF THING.
01:30:17
>> SO AS I SAID, THEY HAVE A WORSE FIRST POLICY.
01:30:20
THEY HAVE PEOPLE SCREAMING AT THEM TO TO MANAGE TREES, STREET
01:30:24
TREES ON THEIR YOU KNOW, ON THEIR BLOCK.
01:30:25
ALL RIGHT. AND SO THEY'RE NOT GETTING
01:30:27
SCREAMED AT TO MANAGE THAT THAT AREA THAT BROWN AREA IN GLEN
01:30:31
CANYON. >> OKAY THANK YOU.
01:30:35
>> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO, THANK YOU.
01:30:39
SUPERVISOR WONG, WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ YOUR MOTIONS INTO THE
01:30:43
RECORD BEFORE PUBLIC COMMENT OR AFTER I CAN READ THEM BEFORE
01:30:47
LET'S SEE. >> THANK YOU, MR. CARROLL.
01:30:54
OKAY. THANK YOU.
01:30:57
I'LL BE MAKING A MOTION SSION RIGHT NOW AND REGARDING FINDING
01:31:04
ONE WHICH READS THE HIGHLY FLAMMABLE AGING EUCALYPTUS
01:31:08
CANOPY IN SAN FRANCISCO POSES A MATERIAL WILDFIRE DANGER
01:31:11
AND THE RISK OF COLLAPSE DURING STORMS.
01:31:13
I'M PROPOSING THAT WE DIRECT THE CLERK TO RESPOND WITH THE
01:31:16
FOLLOWING RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REPORTS TO
01:31:20
THE PRESIDING JUDGE OF THE SUPERIOR COURT THAT THEY
01:31:23
PARTIALLY DISAGREE WITH FINDING F ONE THE BOARD AGREES THAT THE
01:31:27
AGING EUCALYPTUS CANOPY POSES A RISK OF COLLAPSE DURING STORMS
01:31:31
AND THAT THE ACCUMULATION OF BARK AND LEAF LITTER AND THE
01:31:34
LATTER FUELS DOCUMENTED IN THE REPORT PRESENT A HAZARD
01:31:38
WARRANTING ONGOING ATTENTION. THE BOARD DISAGREES THAT THIS
01:31:42
CONDITION RISES TO A MATERIAL WILDFIRE DANGER
01:31:46
CITYWIDE. >> THE REPORT'S ASSESSMENT OF
01:31:50
VEGETATION CONDITIONS IS DRAWN FROM GLEN CANYON AND CAL FIRES
01:31:53
FIRE HAZARD SEVERITY ZONE MAP WHICH CLASSIFIES LAND BASED ON
01:31:57
FUEL TERRAIN AND FIRE WEATHER DOES NOT PLACE THE CITY'S
01:32:01
WILDLAND AREAS IN A HIGH OR VERY HIGH FIRE FIRE HAZARD
01:32:06
SEVERITY ZONE. >> REGARDING FINDING FIVE WHICH
01:32:10
READS THE UFC HAS NOT PROVIDED GUIDANCE AND PRACTICE STANDARDS
01:32:14
TO ITS MEMBERS ABOUT WILDFIRE RISK MITIGATION AND MANAGEMENT
01:32:18
OF INVASIVE SPECIES SUCH AS EUCALYPTUS.
01:32:22
>> I'M PROPOSING I AM PROPOSING THAT WE DIRECT THE CLERK TO
01:32:26
RESPOND WITH THE FOLLOWING RESOLVE THAT THE BOARD OF
01:32:29
SUPERVISORS REPORTS TO THE PRESIDING JUDGE OF THE SUPERIOR
01:32:33
COURT THAT THEY AGREE WITH FINDING FIVE.
01:32:35
THE BOARD NOTES THAT THE COUNCIL ENGAGED WITH WILDFIRE
01:32:39
RISK IN GLEN CANYON THROUGH SITE TOURS, EXPERT
01:32:43
PRESENTATIONS AND A SURVEY OF MEMBERS AGENCIES PRACTICES BUT
01:32:47
WAS UNABLE TO ADVANCE THAT WORK INTO GUIDANCE FOR PRACTICE
01:32:52
STANDARDS BECAUSE ITS URBAN FOREST PLANNING WORK WAS PAUSED
01:32:55
FOR LACK OF FUNDING DATA AND STAFF CAPACITY REGARDING
01:33:01
RECOMMENDATION 5.2 WHICH READS BY JUNE 30TH 2027 THE UFC
01:33:08
SHOULD DEVELOP AN AGENDA AND SCHEDULE KICKOFF MEETINGS
01:33:13
BETWEEN KEY AGENCIES TO BEGIN WORK ON PHASE TWO TREES
01:33:17
IN PARKS AND OPEN SPACES OF THE URBAN FOREST PLAN WHICH WITH
01:33:21
SPECIFIC FOCUS ON INVASIVE SPECIES MANAGEMENT AND WILDFIRE
01:33:25
ABATEMENT. >> I'M PROPOSING THAT WE DIRECT
01:33:29
CLERK THE CLERK TO RESPOND WITH THE FOLLOWING RESOLVED THAT THE
01:33:32
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REPORTS THAT RECOMMENDATION R 5.2 WILL
01:33:36
NOT SPEAR IMPLEMENTED BECAUSE IT IS NOT WARRANTED OR
01:33:41
REASONABLE. THE RECOMMENDATIONS IS DIRECTED
01:33:44
TO THE URBAN FORESTRY COUNCIL WHICH CEASED TO EXIST ON JUNE
01:33:49
30TH 2026. >> THANK YOU.
01:33:52
COLLEAGUES, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS?
01:33:56
>> NO THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR WONG.
01:33:57
COULD THIS OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT?
01:34:00
>> YES. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO LIKE
01:34:01
TO SPEAK ON ITEMS SEVEN AND EIGHT SHALL LINE UP ALONG
01:34:04
THE SIDE BY THE WINDOWS. ALL SPEAKERS WILL HAVE ONE
01:34:06
MINUTE. >> MR. CHAIR, WE HAVE NO PUBLIC
01:34:11
COMMENT FOR THESE ITEMS. THANK YOU.
01:34:14
SENIOR SPEAKERS. PUBLIC COMMENT IS CLOSED.
01:34:21
>> SUPERVISOR WONG ANYTHING ELSE BEFORE WE GO FORWARD?
01:34:23
NO THANK YOU CHAIR CHERYL I MOVE TO AMEND ITEM EIGHT AS
01:34:26
PRESENTED EARLIER. >> THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE
01:34:29
ROLL. YES AND ON THE MOTION TO AMEND
01:34:34
ITEM EIGHT AS PRESENTED. >> MEMBER WONG I REMEMBER WONG
01:34:40
I VICE-CHAIR FIELDER VICE-CHAIR FIELDER I CHAIR CHERYL I.
01:34:44
>> SURE CHERYL I HAVE THREE EYES.
01:34:45
THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES.
01:34:48
>> OKAY. I MOVE TO SEND ITEM EIGHT TO
01:34:51
THE FULL BOARD OF THE POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION.
01:34:52
>> THANK YOU MADAM CLERK YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
01:34:54
YES AND ON THE MOTION TO FORWARD ITEM EIGHT TO THE
01:34:57
FORWARD WITH POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION AS AMENDED.
01:35:00
MEMBER WONG HAI REMEMBER WONG I FISCHER FILTER BY SHERFIELD ARE
01:35:05
I CHAIR CHERYL. ALL RIGHT.
01:35:06
SURE CHERYL I HAVE THREE EYES. >> THANK YOU.
01:35:09
THE MOTION PASSES. OKAY I MOVE TO FILE ITEM SEVEN.
01:35:12
>> YES. CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
01:35:16
YES IN ON THE MOTION TO FILE ITEM SEVEN REMEMBER WONG
01:35:20
REMEMBER WONG I'VE I SURE FILTER BY SURE FILTER I CHAIR
01:35:24
CHERYL I SURE CHERYL I HAVE THREE EYES.
01:35:28
>> THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES.
01:35:31
>> OKAY. MOVING FORWARD WE'RE GOING TO
01:35:35
STICK HERE WITH SUPERVISOR WONG BUT BEFORE THAT MADAM CLERK CAN
01:35:40
YOU PLEASE CALL ITEMS NUMBER NINE AND TEN TOGETHER?
01:35:42
>> YES. ITEM NUMBER NINE AS A HEARING
01:35:46
ON THE 2025 2026 CIVIL GRAND JURY REPORT ENTITLED AT SKILL
01:35:49
AT RISK UPGRADING DATA AND OVERSIGHT TO IMPROVE
01:35:52
HOMELESSNESS SERVICES. AND NUMBER TEN IS A RESOLUTION
01:35:56
RESPONDING TO THE PRESIDING JUDGE OF THE SUPERIOR COURT ON
01:35:59
THE FINDING AND RECOMMENDATIONS CONTAINED IN THE 2025 2026
01:36:02
CIVIL GRAND JURY REPORT ENTITLED AT SKILL AT RISK OF
01:36:06
UPGRADING DATA AND OVERSIGHT TO IMPROVE HOMELESSNESS SERVICES
01:36:09
AND URGING THE MAYOR TO CALL THE IMPLEMENTATION OF ACCEPTED
01:36:14
FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS THROUGH THE HIS DEPARTMENT
01:36:15
HEADS AND THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ANNUAL
01:36:18
BUDGET. >> OKAY.
01:36:21
THANK YOU CHAIR CHERYL. >> AND AGAIN I WANT TO THANK
01:36:25
THE MEMBERS OF THE CIVIL GRAND JURY FOR THE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT
01:36:29
OF TIME AND WORK THAT WENT INTO THIS REPORT.
01:36:30
>> HOMELESSNESS IS ONE OF THE MOST DIFFICULT
01:36:33
AND CONSEQUENTIAL CHALLENGES FACING SAN FRANCISCO.
01:36:34
THE CITY HAS BUILT A LARGE SYSTEM TO RESPOND TO THAT
01:36:37
CHALLENGE ONE THAT RELIES HEAVILY ON NONPROFIT PARTNERS
01:36:40
TO PROVIDE HOUSING, SHELTER, OUTREACH AND SUPPORTIVE
01:36:43
SERVICES TO THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE EVERY YEAR WITH THAT SCALE
01:36:44
COMES IN RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE NOT ONLY ARE
01:36:50
SPENDING OUR PUBLIC DOLLARS APPROPRIATELY BUT THAT WE ARE
01:36:52
MEASURING WHETHER PROGRAMS ARE WORKING, IDENTIFYING PROBLEMS
01:36:55
EARLY AND KEEPING THE PEOPLE WE SERVE SAFE.
01:36:58
H. S H ADMINISTERS NEARLY $500
01:37:02
MILLION ANNUALLY THROUGH NONPROFIT CONTRACTS ACROSS
01:37:03
HUNDREDS OF INDIVIDUAL AGREEMENTS THAT MAKES GOOD DATA
01:37:06
MEANINGFUL PERFORMANCE MEASURES AND EFFECTIVE OVERSIGHT
01:37:09
ESPECIALLY IMPORTANT AND WHEN PROBLEMS DO OCCUR WE SHOULD BE
01:37:13
ASKING WHETHER OUR SYSTEMS ARE GIVING US THE INFORMATION WE
01:37:16
NEED TO RECOGNIZE PATTERNS, INTERVENE EARLY AND MAKE BETTER
01:37:18
DECISIONS GOING FORWARD. SO I APPRECIATE THE CIVIL GRAND
01:37:22
JURY TAKING A CLOSE LOOK AT THIS QUESTIONS AND GIVING US AN
01:37:25
OPPORTUNITY TO EXAMINE HOW OUR OVERSIGHT AND ACCOUNTABILITY
01:37:29
SYSTEMS ARE WORKING. TODAY WE'RE JOINED BY GARY
01:37:32
SHADER PRONOUNCED AUSTIN WRIGHT INVESTIGATION COMMITTEE CHAIR
01:37:36
FOR THE CIVIL GRAND JURY. MR. SHAY, THANK YOU FOR BEING
01:37:40
HERE. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO YOU TO
01:37:41
PRESENT THE JURY'S REPORT. >> THANK YOU SUPERVISOR JUAN
01:37:44
FOR THAT INTRODUCTION AND THANK YOU COMMITTEE FOR YOUR READING
01:37:48
OF THE REPORT AND CAREFUL CONSIDERATION.
01:37:51
BEFORE I START I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK CITY WORKERS IN H FOR THE
01:37:58
TIRELESS WORK THAT THEY DO AND OFTEN IN UNREWARDING
01:38:02
UNRECOGNIZED ROLES THAT ULTIMATELY HAS BUILT OUR
01:38:06
CAPACITY TO RESPOND TO HOMELESSNESS TO 5000 SHELTER
01:38:10
BEDS ROUGHLY 9000 PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING SITES.
01:38:16
>> SO I'D LIKE TO START BY REALLY SORT OF EMPHASIZING WHY
01:38:23
THIS HEARING MATTERS. HOMELESSNESS IS A CRITICAL
01:38:26
ISSUE. IT'S NOT HIDDEN.
01:38:27
BUT I THINK WE'RE COMING AT A TIME NOW WHERE PUBLIC TRUST IS
01:38:31
AT A LOW. >> THERE ARE A CONTINUING LOOP
01:38:35
OF EVENTS THAT REALLY REINFORCE PUBLIC TRUST BEING AT THIS
01:38:42
LEVEL MORE RECENTLY THIS IS BEEN MANIFESTED AS ERIC
01:38:46
MCCAIN'S UNDERCOVER DEATH IN NOVEMBER OF 2025 AT THE
01:38:51
JAZZY COLLINS APARTMENTS, WHICH IS A PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE
01:38:54
HOUSING SITE AND THE DECISION TO SHUTTER OUR CLOSED 7-ELEVEN
01:38:57
POST STREET DUE TO A NEIGHBOR PUBLIC OUTCRIES AROUND SAFETY
01:39:07
THE OVERALL PERCEPTION FROM A PUBLIC STANDPOINT IS THAT THIS
01:39:11
IS A SYSTEM THAT HAS BEEN SCALED AND BUILT BUT REALLY
01:39:13
CURRENTLY LACKS ACCOUNTABILITY. >> I THINK THE GOOD NEWS IS
01:39:19
THAT THE HEARING MATTERS NOW BECAUSE THAT CHANGE IS AFOOT.
01:39:23
WE HAVE A NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF HHS, MIKE LEVINE
01:39:27
WHO BRINGS A MEDICAID AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH
01:39:30
BACKGROUND AND I THINK A MANDATE FROM MAYOR LURIE TO
01:39:34
IMPLEMENT BETTER OR BEST PRACTICES.
01:39:38
AND MAYOR LURIE'S JUST ANNOUNCED HIS SWEEPING REFORM
01:39:41
OF RE PROCURING HCA CONTRACTS. >> I THINK BOTH FROM A BOARD A
01:39:45
SUPERVISOR STANDPOINT VIEW ARE GREAT OR IMPORTANT INSERTION
01:39:49
POINTS FOR SOME OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS HERE AND I
01:39:53
THINK ULTIMATELY YOU KNOW THIS ISN'T ABOUT MONEY.
01:39:56
THIS IS ABOUT APPROPRIATING A LARGER BUDGET BUDGET.
01:40:00
IT'S ABOUT IMPROVING WHAT'S ACTUALLY ALREADY THERE AND IT
01:40:03
REALLY RESTS ON A STRONG DATA ANALYTICS FOUNDATION.
01:40:07
WE'VE LOOKED AT PEOPLE PROCESS AND TECHNOLOGY NOT MORE FUNDING
01:40:14
AND OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TOUCH ON ALL THREE.
01:40:17
>> SO INSTEAD OF STEPPING THROUGH THE MINUTIA OF ALL OF
01:40:23
OUR FIVE RECOMMENDATIONS FIVE FINDINGS AND 14 RECOMMENDATION
01:40:29
WINS, I THOUGHT I KIND OF CLEAVE IT UP INTO BROAD THEMES
01:40:32
HERE FOR YOU. ONE IS SIMPLY JUST BETTER USE
01:40:34
OF DATA. HCA COLLECTS A COMPELLING
01:40:40
AMOUNT OF COMPREHENSIVE DATA BUT REALLY ISN'T USING IT AS
01:40:44
EFFECTIVELY AS IT COULD. SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TWEAKS
01:40:49
HERE TO IMPROVE OVERSIGHT AND MANAGEMENT OF THE
01:40:53
NONPROFITS THROUGH DATA THAT ALREADY EXISTS.
01:40:56
>> SO IF YOU'RE MANAGING YOU KNOW, 5000 SHELTER BEDS, 9000
01:41:03
PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING BEDS, YOU'RE REALLY MANAGING A
01:41:06
PORTFOLIO. AND WHEN YOU MANAGE ANY
01:41:07
PORTFOLIO I THINK BENCHMARKING BECOMES EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
01:41:11
SO BENCHMARKING NOT ONLY TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THERE ARE
01:41:15
LAGGARDS OR WHERE THERE ARE ISSUES BUT BENCHMARKING TO
01:41:19
FIGURE OUT WHERE IMPROVEMENTS CAN BE MADE AND WHERE THERE
01:41:22
HIGHLIGHTS THAT CAN BE LEARNED AND TRANSLATED THROUGH THE REST
01:41:24
OF THE PORTFOLIO. THE SECOND PART IS JUST MAKING
01:41:27
BETTER USE OF THE DATA TO AUTOMATE PROCESSES USING DATA
01:41:31
TRIGGERS SO BETTER USE THE DATA IS ONE IMPORTANT THEME.
01:41:35
THE SECOND IMPORTANT THEME IS AROUND SAFETY.
01:41:38
SAFETY SHOULD BE CONSIDERED THIRD IN THE HOMELESSNESS
01:41:43
RESPONSE SYSTEM IN OUTCOME HOMELESSNESS WHAT LISA HOMELESS
01:41:46
IS MANY FACTORS BUT I THINK AT A PERSONAL LEVEL WHAT REALLY
01:41:51
LEADS TO HOMELESSNESS IS A LACK OF SUPPORT TRAUMA AND A LACK OF
01:41:57
STABILITY AND AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I THINK WE REALLY
01:42:02
NEED TO ENSURE THAT ARE THERE IN THE HOMELESSNESS RESPONSE
01:42:05
SYSTEM. SO WE'RE SAYING HERE THAT THE
01:42:09
CRITICAL INCIDENT REPORTS THESE ARE CRITICAL INCIDENT REPORTS
01:42:12
THAT BASICALLY LOG ARE LOGGED BY THE NONPROFIT AND IS A
01:42:17
RESPONSE FROM HCA. IT'S TO MAKE SURE THAT THOSE
01:42:24
SINGLE ISOLATED INCIDENTS ARE TAKEN CARE OF.
01:42:28
>> WE BELIEVE THERE NEEDS TO BE BETTER WORK IN AGGREGATING THAT
01:42:31
DATA TO DETERMINE TRENDS AND REALLY TO PREVENT FUTURE
01:42:35
SAFETY ISSUES FROM OCCURRING RATHER THAN JUST RESPONDING.
01:42:42
>> AND SO IF SAFETY IF YOU BUY THE PREMISE THAT SAFETY SHOULD
01:42:47
BE AN OUTCOME THAT OUTCOME NEEDS TO BE MEASURED
01:42:50
IN CONTRACTS. NONPROFITS NEED TO BE HELD
01:42:54
ACCOUNTABLE THE WAY THEY'RE HELD ACCOUNTABLE IS THROUGH
01:42:57
THEIR CONTRACTS AND SAFETY NEEDS TO BE AN EXPLICIT
01:43:01
MEASUREMENT IN THOSE CONTRACTS. AND THE LAST POINT IS ON
01:43:05
OVERSIGHT. THERE NEEDS TO BE INDEPENDENT
01:43:09
OVERSIGHT I THINK PARTICULARLY WHEN PUBLIC TRUST IS AT A LOW I
01:43:14
THINK OVERSIGHT BECOMES A PRIORITY AND BECOMES PARAMOUNT.
01:43:18
SO I THINK THERE IS A NEED HERE TO REALLY STRENGTHEN OVERSIGHT
01:43:22
AND TO REALLY HELP EMPOWER THOSE COMMISSIONERS ON THE
01:43:25
HOMELESSNESS OVERSIGHT COMMISSION TO EXIST TO SUCCEED
01:43:32
. >> SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO
01:43:37
THROUGH THE NITTY GRITTY HERE OF EVERY FINDING OR
01:43:38
RECOMMENDATION BUT REALLY TO KIND OF GIVE YOU A SENSE THE
01:43:43
FIRST RECOMMENDED ACTION BATCH IS JUST AROUND BETTER USE OF
01:43:47
DATA AND I THINK THERE'S A PRETTY GOOD RESIDENTS HERE WITH
01:43:51
BETTER USE OF DATA. I THINK THE RESPONSE FROM THE
01:43:54
MAYOR'S OFFICE AND FROM SAGE ARE POSITIVE IN THAT THEY
01:43:59
ACCEPT IMPLEMENTING IN THE FUTURE PORTFOLIO BENCHMARKING
01:44:06
AND DATA TRIGGERS AS AN ANIMATION DEVICE.
01:44:10
>> THE SECOND PIECE AROUND INCLUDING CARS AS A SAFETY
01:44:17
METRIC IN CONTRACT I THINK IS A LITTLE BIT MIXED HERE.
01:44:21
I THINK THE GOOD NEWS IS THAT INCLUDING SEIZURES AND SAFETY
01:44:28
METRICS AS AN OUTCOME IN NONPROFIT CONTRACTS IS BEING
01:44:32
CONSIDERED FOR IMPLEMENTATION FOR FURTHER STUDY.
01:44:36
BUT THAT SEIZURES WILL NOT BE MADE A PUBLIC DISCLOSURE
01:44:43
AND SEIZURES WILL CONTINUE AND BASED ON THE MAYOR'S AN HHS
01:44:48
RECOMMENDATION WILL BE AVAILABLE ONLY BEHIND A PUBLIC
01:44:54
RECORDS REQUEST. WE BELIEVE THAT OBVIOUSLY IF
01:44:58
SAFETY IS AN OUTCOME THAT SHOULD BE PUBLICLY TRANSPARENT
01:45:02
THROUGH MORE THAN JUST A PUBLIC RECORDS REQUEST, I THINK I
01:45:16
MIGHT HAVE SKIPPED OVER ONE BUT LET'S FORGE FORWARD.
01:45:19
>> AND THE LAST ONE IS AROUND OVERSIGHT.
01:45:22
I THINK THERE'S FOR A LARGE PART HERE A LOT OF PUSHBACK ON
01:45:26
OVERSIGHT. >> AGAIN, OUR FUNDAMENTAL
01:45:32
PREMISE WITHOUT GOING AND TALKING THROUGH EVERY
01:45:34
RECOMMENDATION IS THAT IF PUBLIC TRUST AS AT A LOW THERE
01:45:37
NEEDS TO BE A HEAVIER FOCUS ON OVERSIGHT SO YOU CAN KIND OF
01:45:48
SEE THE COMPOSITE HERE OF RESPONDENTS AGREEMENT OR
01:45:52
DISAGREEMENT WITH OUR FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
01:45:56
>> SO LET ME JUST KIND OF STEP BACK AND GIVE YOU A HIGHLIGHT
01:46:00
HERE OF WHERE THERE IS STRONG OVERLAP AND WHERE THERE IS
01:46:04
RESONANCE. IT'S AGAIN AROUND A SAFETY
01:46:07
STANDARDS CLAUSE IN NONPROFIT CONTRACTS.
01:46:11
>> I BELIEVE I THINK THE CIVIL GRAND JURY BELIEVES THIS IS A
01:46:12
STRONGEST VALUE ADD OF THE REPORT AND THE RECOMMENDATION
01:46:16
SET AND I THINK THIS LANDS AT A NATURAL INSERTION POINT FOR THE
01:46:22
COMMITTEE'S ASK RIGHT AS THE LAYER IS IN THE PROCESS OF
01:46:27
REFORMING LETTING HOW WE PROCURE ALL HSA CONTRACTS.
01:46:34
>> THE SECOND AGREEMENT POINT IS ON BENCHMARKING AND THE USE
01:46:38
OF DATA TRIGGERS IN THE MAYORS FORMAL COVER LETTER WE BOTH
01:46:42
REITERATED AND DOUBLE DOWN ON THESE TWO POINTS AND THOSE
01:46:47
DATES AND I THINK A LITTLE BIT OF A WEEK OR AGREEMENT IS
01:46:53
AROUND REVISING THE DIRECTORS MONTHLY REPORT TO SEE I THINK I
01:47:01
THINK WITH THE NEW DIRECTOR I THINK REVISING THIS
01:47:05
AND RESETTING WHAT'S PUBLICLY DISCLOSED, WHAT'S IMPORTANT AS
01:47:09
AN OUTCOME METRIC FOR HHC TO FOCUS ON I THINK THAT'S
01:47:14
IMPORTANT WHERE THE RESPONSES REALLY FALL SHORT IN OUR VIEW
01:47:24
IS AROUND CIGARS. >> SO OUR PREMISE IS AGAIN
01:47:31
SAFETY SHOULD BE AN IMPORTANT OUTCOME.
01:47:32
THEREFORE CI HAS BEING THE PRINCIPAL MEASUREMENT OF SAFETY
01:47:36
SHOULD BE PUBLICLY AVAILABLE AND NOT JUST BEHIND A PUBLIC
01:47:39
RECORDS REQUEST. THE RESPONSE HAS BEEN THAT
01:47:43
CIGARS EXIST. I AGGREGATE IT ANONYMIZED AS A
01:47:46
DASHBOARD FOR TREND SPOTTING BUT THAT THIS SHOULD ONLY BE
01:47:50
SHARED INTERNALLY AND CURRENTLY IS BEING SHARED EFFECTIVELY
01:47:55
INTERNALLY AND I THINK WE WOULD DISPUTE THE YOU KNOW HOW
01:47:59
EFFECTIVE THAT IS. THE SECOND POINT IS AROUND THE
01:48:03
CITY ATTORNEY AND EMPOWERING HLC TO REALLY PERFORM ITS
01:48:09
UTMOST IN ITS OVERSIGHT FUNCTION.
01:48:13
THE CITY ATTORNEY BELIEVES THAT OVERSIGHT IS BEING CARRIED OUT
01:48:17
BY HLC. >> AGAIN, I THINK WE HAVE A
01:48:21
SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT OPINION THAT THAT AND THAT THEY HAVE THE
01:48:24
TRAINING MODULES AVAILABLE FOR CONTRACT REVIEW AND FOR
01:48:32
PERFORMANCE AUDITS. BUT THEY'RE HOLDING IT BACK
01:48:36
ONLY UNTIL HHC REQUESTS IT. >> THIRD POINT IS THAT
01:48:45
INDEPENDENT OVERSIGHT IS BEING THINNED OUT.
01:48:48
WE MAKE THE ASSERTION THAT AS SOME SEE AN SJC THE SHELTER
01:48:53
MONITORING COMMITTEE SHELTER GRIEVANCE ADVISORY COMMITTEE
01:48:56
ARE BEING ROLLED INTO THE CURRENT HEAD COUNT FOR HHS H
01:49:03
BUT THAT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR HCA TO ACTUALLY CARRY OUT
01:49:08
UNANNOUNCED SITE VISITS AT PCH WHICH DEEPLY NEEDED ANALOGOUS
01:49:15
TO WHAT THEY CURRENTLY DO FOR SHELTERS AND THAT THIS SHOULD
01:49:20
BE ASSESSED AS AN OPTION. >> SO ON MY LAST SLIDE HERE I
01:49:39
JUST WANT TO REQUEST OR MAKE THREE ASKS FOR THE BOARD'S
01:49:44
RESOLUTION IN THEIR RESPONSE TO THIS REPORT.
01:49:48
>> ONE IS REALLY ADOPT A RECOMMENDATION 1.3 AS WRITTEN
01:49:55
MAKING C OUR DATA PUBLICLY AVAILABLE IN THE EASY TO
01:49:59
CONSUME DASHBOARD BUT MAKE THAT AVAILABLE WITHIN PRIVACY
01:50:03
CONSTRAINTS NOT GATED BEHIND A RECORDS REQUEST.
01:50:09
I THINK PUBLIC VISIBILITY OF HCA SUCH AND THEIR PROGRESS ON
01:50:13
SAFETY IS GOING TO GO A LONG WAYS IN REESTABLISHING THAT
01:50:17
PUBLIC TRUST. >> THE SECOND POINT IS I THINK
01:50:24
WE CAN MAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A COMMITMENT ON ASSESSING
01:50:32
AND INCLUDING SAFETY STANDARDS IN NONPROFIT CONTRACTS BEYOND
01:50:35
JUST A FURTHER STUDY LET'S CALL ON HCA TO COMMIT TO A TIMELINE
01:50:40
TO INCLUDING SAFETY STANDARDS IN NONPROFIT CONTRACTS
01:50:44
ESPECIALLY ALIGNED TO AND DOVETAILING WITH OUR
01:50:49
CONTRACT WE PROCUREMENT. AND THE THIRD IS LET'S EMPOWER
01:50:57
HLC TO ACTUALLY DO OVERSIGHT. YOU KNOW, LET'S CALL ON THE
01:51:05
CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO DELIVER THOSE TRAINING MODULES
01:51:09
ON HOW DO WE EFFECTIVELY REVIEW CONTRACTS, HOW DO WE CARRY OUT
01:51:13
IN COMMISSION PERFORMANCE AUDITS.
01:51:17
I THINK THESE ARE REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE HLC HAS BEEN
01:51:20
GIVEN THE PRIVILEGE AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW CONTRACTS
01:51:28
THAT IF PROPER IS PASSED IN NOVEMBER ON THIS BALLOT
01:51:32
PROVIDES SOME VISIBILITY 80 THAT WOULD JUST DISAPPEAR IF IT
01:51:37
WEREN'T FOR THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ALSO REVIEWING
01:51:41
CONTRACTS AND APPROVING THEM FOR $10 MILLION OR HIGHER
01:51:45
EFFECTIVE REALLY WOULD REMOVE THAT VISIBILITY ONLY TO
01:51:50
CONTRACTS OF $25 MILLION OR HIGHER FOR SPENDING CONTRACTS.
01:51:56
>> I'LL STOP THERE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
01:52:00
>> OKAY. >> OKAY.
01:52:04
THANK YOU, MR. SHAY. AND THANK YOU AGAIN TO THE
01:52:05
SEATTLE GRAND JURY FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS REPORT.
01:52:08
I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS BEFORE WE HEAR FROM THE CITY.
01:52:11
>> FINDING THREE SHE SAYS THAT CHANGES IN HOW CONTRACTS ARE
01:52:15
PRESENTED TO THE HOMELESSNESS OVERSIGHT COMMISSION HAVE
01:52:19
WEAKENED THE COMMISSION'S OVERSIGHT FROM THE GRAND JURY'S
01:52:22
PERSPECTIVE. >> WHAT IS THE COMMISSION NO
01:52:27
LONGER SEEING IN THOSE CONTRACTS THAT LED YOU TO THAT
01:52:28
CONCLUSION? >> ONE OF THE HOMELESS
01:52:34
OVERSIGHT COMMISSIONS I THINK IMPORTANT ACTIVITIES IS THE
01:52:38
ACTIVITY OF INQUIRY. >> AND I THINK IT'S A
01:52:42
FUNDAMENTAL ACTIVITY THAT ALLOWS YOU TO PROVIDE EFFECTIVE
01:52:46
OVERSIGHT. >> SO THEY MAY OR MAY NOT ASK
01:52:50
CERTAIN QUESTIONS ON EVERY CONTRACT THAT IS UP FOR RENEWAL
01:52:54
OR EXTENSION THAT THEY PREVIOUSLY WERE ABLE TO REVIEW.
01:52:58
>> BUT IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO PRACTICE THAT ACT OF
01:53:05
INQUIRY. >> AND NOW WE'RE SAYING SINCE
01:53:09
OVERSIGHT HASN'T BEEN REALLY EFFECTIVE, LET'S JUST KIND OF
01:53:13
TAKE THAT OPPORTUNITY AWAY FOR THEM.
01:53:14
I SEE IT AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THEM TO ACTUALLY DOUBLE DOWN
01:53:18
AND STRENGTHEN THAT MUSCLE, STRENGTHEN THAT MUSCLE OF
01:53:21
INQUIRY AROUND CONTRACT FORMATION, CONTRACT RENEWALS
01:53:24
AND EXTENSIONS BECAUSE I THINK IT'S SO CORE TO HOW HCA
01:53:29
OPERATES. >> OKAY.
01:53:35
AND FINDING ONE SAYS ACE HCA HAS NOT USED CRITICAL INCIDENT
01:53:42
REPORTS EFFECTIVELY TO IDENTIFY TROUBLING PATTERNS OR IMPROVE
01:53:43
SAFETY AT HOUSING SITES. >> WHAT DID THE GRAND JURY SEE
01:53:47
IN ITS INVESTIGATION THAT LED YOU TO CONCLUDE THAT HCA WASN'T
01:53:50
MAKING FULL USE OF THE INFORMATION?
01:53:51
IT WAS ALREADY COLLECTING? FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO HAVE AISHA
01:53:57
MCCAIN HERE. AISHA MCCAIN IS A SISTER OF
01:54:00
ERIC MCCAIN WHO DIED NOVEMBER 25TH.
01:54:06
HIS DEATH AND SOME OF THE SITUATION AROUND HIS DEATH
01:54:10
INVOLVED THREE PRIOR CRITICAL INCIDENT REPORTS ON
01:54:18
UNDISCOVERED DEATHS. AT THE SAME PASSAGE BUILDING,
01:54:22
JAZZY COLLINS. >> AND I WOULD SUBMIT OR ARGUE
01:54:26
THAT FOR THREE TO HAPPEN IS TRAGIC ENOUGH FOR FOURTH TO
01:54:32
HAPPEN AND FOR SOMEONE NOT TO CONNECT THE DOTS FROM THOSE
01:54:36
THREE PRIOR INCIDENTS AND INVESTIGATE IT I THINK IS A
01:54:40
DISSERVICE. >> OKAY.
01:54:43
FINDINGS SAYS H. H IS LAGGING IN ITS ABILITY TO
01:54:47
COMPARE THE PERFORMANCE OF SIMILAR NONPROFIT PROVIDERS.
01:54:51
WHAT DID THE CIVIL GRAND JURY FIND?
01:54:54
H. S H IS CURRENTLY UNABLE TO SEE
01:54:55
OR IDENTIFY BECAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT COMPARATIVE VIEW.
01:55:00
>> YOU KNOW WE LIKE MY COLLEAGUES CONDUCTING OTHER
01:55:04
INVESTIGATIONS. WE DID INTERVIEW EXTENSIVELY
01:55:09
CITY WORKERS AND IT REALLY BECAME APPARENT THAT YOU KNOW,
01:55:15
BENCHMARKING AND REALLY TREATING ALL THE NONPROFITS AS
01:55:23
PART OF A PORTFOLIO AND ASSESSING WHO'S DOING
01:55:24
BETTER AND WHAT ASPECT OF THIS POOR FELLOW WASN'T BEING
01:55:28
PERFORMED. >> AND THAT WAS AN EXPLICIT
01:55:32
QUESTION IN OUR INTERVIEWS. >> OKAY.
01:55:37
THANK YOU. COLLEAGUES, DO WE HAVE ANY
01:55:41
QUESTIONS FOR MR. SHAY? OKAY.
01:55:42
VICE CHAIR FIELDER THANK YOU. >> SO CRITICAL INCIDENT REPORTS
01:55:49
PROVIDE VITAL INSIGHT INTO CLIENT SAFETY BUT IT JUST DOES
01:55:52
NOT USE THIS DATA EFFECTIVELY TO IDENTIFY PATTERNS OF CONCERN
01:55:56
AND TO IMPROVE SAFETY AT HOUSING SITES.
01:55:57
AS THE JURY SUGGESTING THAT ANY CONTRACTOR WITH A PATTERN
01:56:00
AND PRACTICE OF UNADDRESSED SAFETY INCIDENTS HAVE THEIR
01:56:03
CONTRACT TERMINATED OR WITH THE HOPE BE THAT THERE'S SOME KIND
01:56:08
OF OPPORTUNITY OR SUPPORT FOR THE CONTRACTOR TO ADDRESS THE
01:56:11
PATTERN. I DO THINK WE NEED TO BE
01:56:18
MINDFUL THAT IS TAKING AN ARDUOUS YOU KNOW, ROUGHLY TEN
01:56:24
YEAR PERIOD AND MANY, MANY MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO BUILD
01:56:28
THE HOMELESSNESS RESPONSE SYSTEM INCLUDING NONPROFIT
01:56:33
OPERATORS TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
01:56:37
AND SO I THINK THERE SHOULD BE EVERY MECHANISM GIVEN FOR THEM
01:56:41
TO ACTIVELY ENACT SOME OF THESE EARLY TREND LINES THAT WE'RE
01:56:49
ABLE TO SEE IF WE'RE ABLE TO HAVE AN EFFECTIVE CPR DASHBOARD
01:56:53
THAT WORKS. >> AND I REALLY THINK THAT FITS
01:56:56
WITH THE CURRENT FRAMEWORK AND THE CONTROLLERS NONPROFIT
01:57:05
CITY WIDE NONPROFIT MONITORING FRAMEWORK.
01:57:06
I THINK IT FITS PERFECTLY WITHIN THAT.
01:57:10
AND IT GIVES THEM AN AMPLE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND
01:57:13
AND REMEDIATE ISSUES. >> THANK YOU.
01:57:17
NOW AGENCY WILL SOON STOP RECEIVING CONTRACT RENEWALS
01:57:21
AND EXTENSIONS DUE TO THE ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN.
01:57:24
SINCE 2025 THEY HAVE RECEIVED ONLY SUMMARY INFORMATION.
01:57:28
>> HOW HAS THE COMMISSION EFFECTIVELY PROVIDED PUBLIC
01:57:29
OVERSIGHT WHEN THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO
01:57:32
CONTRACTS OR AREAS OF CONCERN WITH A PROVIDER?
01:57:35
>> YEAH, I THINK AGAIN IT'S THE OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS,
01:57:39
MAKE INQUIRIES. YOU KNOW IN PARTICULAR
01:57:43
IN MEETING MINUTES WE HAVE SEEN GOOD INQUIRY OR LINES OF
01:57:51
INQUIRY OR QUESTIONS ABOUT OUR PARTICULAR PROVIDER'S HISTORY
01:57:58
AND DENIAL OF SERVICE TO HOMELESS CLIENTS AND IN DENIAL
01:58:02
SERVICE IS CERTAINLY AN IMPORTANT ASPECT IN CLIENTS
01:58:06
ACCESSING THE HOMELESSNESS RESPONSE SYSTEM OR BEING
01:58:10
EJECTED OUT OF IT. AND SO I THINK IT'S NATURAL
01:58:14
THAT IF OUTSOURCING IS YOUR PRIMARY OPERATIONAL MODE
01:58:22
AND OUTSOURCING IS COVERED BY CONTRACTS THAT AN OVERSIGHT
01:58:25
COMMISSION OVERSEEING HHS OPERATIONS HAS THE ABILITY TO
01:58:33
MAKE THAT INQUIRY ON THESE NONPROFIT CONTRACTS.
01:58:37
TO ME IT'S JUST IT'S COMMON SENSE.
01:58:40
I THANK YOU. >> AND THEN I HAVE QUESTIONS
01:58:45
FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY JUST TO CLARIFY THE FATE OF THE
01:58:48
HOMELESS OVERSIGHT COMMISSION IS THE ELIMINATION OF THE
01:58:52
HOMELESS OVERSIGHT COMMISSION AND ANY OF THE PROPOSITIONS ON
01:58:56
OUR BALLOT THIS NOVEMBER? >> SUPERVISOR I WOULD HAVE TO
01:59:03
TAKE A LOOK TO CONFIRM WHETHER THAT IS THE CASE OR NOT.
01:59:06
OKAY. YOU GIVE ME A SECOND.
01:59:07
I CAN THANK YOU AND I AM I CORRECT IN SAYING THAT PROPERTY
01:59:14
ON NOVEMBER BALLOT RAISES THE THRESHOLD FOR CONTRACTS
01:59:18
REVIEWED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FROM 10 MILLION TO
01:59:21
25 MILLION? >> YES, I DID.
01:59:24
>> ONE OF THE PROPOSITIONS DOES MODIFY THE THRESHOLDS FOR 9.118
01:59:28
APPROVAL FOR THE BOARD. >> THAT'S CORRECT.
01:59:29
OKAY. IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT THIS
01:59:32
ALSO PLACES FURTHER OUT OF REACH THE ABILITY OF THE BOARD
01:59:36
OF SUPERVISORS TO PROVIDE OVERSIGHT BUT AWAIT AN ANSWER
01:59:43
ON THAT PREVIOUS QUESTION AROUND THE FATE OF THE
01:59:44
HOMELESSNESS OVERSIGHT COMMISSION.
01:59:47
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS.
01:59:48
THANK YOU. OKAY.
01:59:51
THANK YOU, MR. SHAY. >> ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?
01:59:55
OKAY. I WANT TO GIVE BUDGET DIRECTOR
01:59:59
HITLER AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO
02:00:03
THE REPORT IF YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS YOU'D LIKE TO OFFER ON
02:00:04
BEHALF OF THE CITY OF. >> ALL RIGHT.
02:00:21
THANK YOU. MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE SOPHIA
02:00:24
KETTLER, MARE'S BUDGET DIRECTOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
02:00:25
HAVING US HERE TODAY. I AM JOINED BY EMILY COHEN FROM
02:00:28
THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELESSNESS AND SUPPORTIVE HOUSING I
02:00:32
BELIEVE. >> YES.
02:00:32
IN CASE YOU HAVE ANY DEPARTMENT SPECIFIC QUESTIONS FIRST I
02:00:36
REALLY WANT TO THANK THE CIVIL GRAND JURY AND PARTICULAR FOR
02:00:39
PERSON ED COOPER FOR ALL OF THEIR REALLY TIRELESS WORK ON
02:00:41
THIS AND WANT TO SAY NOTWITHSTANDING THE REALLY COOL
02:00:44
LOOKING SCORECARD ON OUR RESPONSES, UM, I THINK THE
02:00:48
MAYOR'S OFFICE AND ALL OF THE DEPARTMENTS TOGETHER REALLY
02:00:51
TAKE THIS VERY SERIOUSLY AND GENERALLY AGREED WITH THE
02:00:55
VAST MAJORITY OF THE SPIRIT OF THIS AND I THINK WHERE YOU WILL
02:00:59
SEE SOME QUIBBLES FROM US ON THE RESPONSES IS MORE
02:01:03
SPECIFICALLY ON HOW WE IMPLEMENT THOSE SPECIFIC
02:01:05
RECOMMENDATIONS RATHER THAN WHETHER WE TAKE THEM AT WHETHER
02:01:09
WE ARE FIGHTING THEM OUTRIGHT. >> FOR EXAMPLE, WE DO BELIEVE
02:01:17
THEY SHOULD USE CRITICAL INCIDENT RESPONSE DATA TO MORE
02:01:18
PROACTIVELY GUIDE SAFETY AND INVESTMENT DECISIONS.
02:01:21
WE KNOW THAT WE ARE USING THAT RIGHT NOW ON KIND OF A
02:01:22
RESPONSIVE HOW DO WE FIX THIS PARTICULAR THING AND WE FULLY
02:01:28
AGREE THAT WE SHOULD STEP BACK AND TAKE A DIFFERENT KIND OF
02:01:30
LIKE WHAT IS THIS DOING AT A PORTFOLIO LEVEL APPROACH?
02:01:33
>> AND I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING THE CIVIL GRAND JURY
02:01:37
WAS VERY CORRECT TO POINT OUT AND WE JUST NEED TO DO BETTER
02:01:40
AND I THINK THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE ABSOLUTELY HEARD FROM
02:01:43
THE DEPARTMENT IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE TAKES VERY SERIOUSLY.
02:01:45
>> SIMILARLY, WE ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO EXPAND BENCHMARKING
02:01:48
CAPABILITIES AND AND TARGETED PROGRAM MONITORING.
02:01:51
>> ONE THING I WILL SAY THOUGH WITH THESE IS IN ORDER TO GET
02:01:55
LIKE NONE OF THIS IS USEFUL WITHOUT GOOD DATA AND ONE THING
02:01:59
WE HAVE FOUND IS THAT THE KEY TO GOOD DATA IS A TRUSTED
02:02:01
PARTNERSHIP BETWEEN OUR PROVIDERS AND THE CITY.
02:02:04
>> AND ONE THING WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO UNDERSTAND
02:02:07
AND MAYBE REQUIRES FURTHER ANALYSIS AND IN THE LINGO OF
02:02:11
THE CIVIL GRAND JURY IS THAT THE MORE GRANULAR PUBLIC
02:02:17
INFORMATION WE MAKE AVAILABLE, THE LESS TRUST THERE CAN BE
02:02:22
BETWEEN KIND OF WHAT LOOKS LIKE A PUBLIC SHAMING AND THE
02:02:26
NECESSARY PARTNERSHIP THAT WE NEED BETWEEN OUR NONPROFIT
02:02:27
PARTNERS AND PROVIDERS AND THE CITY.
02:02:30
>> SO WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THAT LINE IS
02:02:34
BETWEEN HOW YOU TAKE A PORTFOLIO APPROACH, GET REALLY
02:02:35
GOOD DATA, PUT FORWARD THAT REALLY GOOD DATA AND USE IT TO
02:02:38
MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS RATHER THAN KIND OF SAYING THIS IS ALL
02:02:42
OF THE INFORMATION, POSTING IT EVERYWHERE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE
02:02:46
SO THAT WE KIND OF LIKE ARE AFRAID THAT WE LOSE THE QUALITY
02:02:49
OF THE DATA THERE. >> I THINK THAT'S PARTICULARLY
02:02:53
IMPORTANT WITH SAFETY INCIDENTS AND SINGERS THERE IS AN
02:02:56
ABSOLUTE FEAR THAT IF WE MAKE INDIVIDUAL SINGERS OR ADD LIKE
02:03:01
A PROGRAM LEVEL OR A LOCATION LEVEL PUBLIC THEN WE LOSE THE
02:03:07
LIKELIHOOD THAT PEOPLE WILL REPORT THOSE.
02:03:09
>> AND I THINK THAT THAT IS AN UNFORTUNATE REALITY AS FAR AS
02:03:15
WHEN IT COMES TO KIND OF OVERSIGHT AND CONTRACT REVIEW,
02:03:18
I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE THE NEW DIRECTOR IS TAKING THIS
02:03:20
REALLY SERIOUSLY AND DOES KIND OF WANT TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THAT
02:03:23
BALANCE SHOULD BE BETWEEN MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE A HIGH
02:03:30
QUALITY LEVEL OF OVERSIGHT ON THE PROGRAM AS A WHOLE AND THE
02:03:33
INDIVIDUAL PORTFOLIO PIECES RATHER THAN KIND OF THE
02:03:38
ADMINISTRATIVE BURDEN AS WAS MENTIONED OF THE INDIVIDUAL
02:03:41
CONTRACTS AND KIND OF THINKING THROUGH THE WORDS OF THE
02:03:43
CONTRACTS WE DO WANT MORE EMPHASIS AND BETTER
02:03:46
COMMUNICATION ON THE DATA AS A WHOLE AND HOW WE ARE THINKING
02:03:52
ABOUT THE PERFORMANCE OF INDIVIDUAL PROVIDERS OR OUR
02:03:54
PORTFOLIO MORE IMPORTANTLY OUR PORTFOLIO AS A WHOLE
02:03:57
AND WHETHER OUR STRATEGIC DIRECTION AND IMPLEMENTATION IS
02:04:00
DOING WELL. >> WE DO NEED ADDITIONAL TOOLS
02:04:04
AND DATA FOR THAT STRATEGIC OVERSIGHT.
02:04:05
THE HOMELESS OVERSIGHT COMMITTEE NEEDS THOSE TOOLS
02:04:08
AND DATA AND I THINK THAT THAT IS WHERE WE NEED TO SEE A
02:04:09
CONTINUED PARTNERSHIP THAT IS GETTING STRENGTHENED WITH
02:04:12
DIRECTOR LEVINE AND THEN FINALLY THE ONLY OTHER THING
02:04:16
WHERE IT WAS THE ONE OUTRIGHT DISAGREEMENT THAT WE HAD WE DO
02:04:23
BELIEVE THAT AGENCY SHELTER MONITORING STAFF CAN CONTINUE
02:04:26
THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE SHELTER MONITORING COMMITTEE
02:04:29
AFTER ELIMINATION. I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
02:04:33
EMILY IS AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS BUT GENERALLY WE
02:04:34
ABSOLUTELY WELCOME ALL OF THE DATA.
02:04:37
WE THINK THAT THEY DID AN EXCELLENT JOB ON THE REPORT
02:04:39
AND WE JUST HAVE DISAGREEMENTS ON THE SPECIFICS OF
02:04:42
IMPLEMENTATION. >> OKAY.
02:04:43
QUESTION TIME YEAH. >> RECOMMENDATION 1.4 SUGGEST
02:04:46
USING SERIOUS INCIDENTS TO TRIGGER ADDITIONAL REVIEW BUT
02:04:50
PROVIDE HER WITH MORE REPORTED INCIDENTS MAY SIMPLY BE BETTER
02:04:55
AT REPORTING THEM. HOW WILL HSA DISTINGUISH
02:04:58
BETWEEN A PROVIDER WITH MORE SAFETY PROBLEMS AND ONE THAT
02:05:02
SIMPLY REPORTS INCIDENTS MORE CONSISTENT ONLY?
02:05:06
>> THANK YOU. SUPERVISOR EMILY COHEN WITH THE
02:05:09
DEPARTMENT OF HOMELESSNESS AND SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
02:05:11
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ONE OF THESE BALANCES THAT SOPHIA WAS
02:05:14
SPEAKING TO. WE WANT TO ENCOURAGE THOSE
02:05:17
REPORTING. WE DO NOT WANT PROVIDERS TO BE
02:05:18
DISHONEST DISINCENTIVE EYES FROM REPORTING IN CRITICAL
02:05:22
INCIDENTS AND THEN WE LOOK AT THE INCIDENT BY PROVIDER ON A
02:05:25
REGULAR BASIS WITH THEM TO SEE WHAT IS A TREND AND WE LOOK
02:05:29
ACROSS DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF THE PROGRAM.
02:05:33
>> THERE'S ALSO A MANY, MANY DIFFERENT KINDS OF CRITICAL
02:05:34
INCIDENTS. AND SO IF WE ARE SEEING A HIGH
02:05:37
NUMBER OF CRITICAL INCIDENTS FOR CALLS FOR MEDICAL
02:05:40
EMERGENCIES, THAT'S GOING TO BE YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT
02:05:42
NECESSARILY A SAFETY ISSUE ON A MACRO LEVEL BUT MIGHT CALL FOR
02:05:47
A CASE MANAGEMENT INTERVENTION FOR THAT PARTICULAR TENANT.
02:05:51
WHY ARE THEY SO ILL? WHY ARE THEY GOING TO THE
02:05:53
HOSPITAL SO MUCH? ARE THEY NOT GETTING THE HEALTH
02:05:56
CARE THEY NEED? AND SO WE BREAK THESE DOWN WITH
02:05:58
THE PROVIDER ON THE REGULAR BASIS TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT
02:06:03
THE REPORT MEANS FOR THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE AND THE
02:06:04
INDIVIDUAL CLIENTS. >> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT
02:06:08
ACTUALLY CAME OUT OF OUR ANALYSIS WAS THE CREATION OF
02:06:11
OUR ANTI VIOLENCE AND WEAPONS POLICY IN SUPPORT OF HOUSING
02:06:15
THAT WAS DIRECTLY CAME FROM THE REVIEW OF THESE CRITICAL
02:06:19
INCIDENTS. >> SO IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT
02:06:20
TOOL FOR US. OKAY.
02:06:22
>> THE REPORT FOUND THAT MANY SITES BELIEVE CRITICAL INCIDENT
02:06:26
REPORTS UNDERCOUNT INCIDENTS AND THAT THERE IS CONFUSION
02:06:30
ABOUT WHEN A REPORT IS REQUIRED.
02:06:31
WHAT IS WHAT IS EACH SAGE DOING TO MAKE SURE PROVIDERS ARE
02:06:35
REPORTING INCIDENTS MORE CONSISTENTLY?
02:06:39
WE THANK YOU. THAT'S BEEN A BIG AREA OF WORK
02:06:40
OVER THE LAST SEVERAL YEARS. WHEN I STARTED WITH THE
02:06:43
DEPARTMENT A DECADE AGO THESE WERE DONE ON PAPER AND WERE
02:06:46
FAXED IN AND IT WAS A TERRIBLE SYSTEM.
02:06:50
WE NOW HAVE A VERY STREAMLINED ONLINE SYSTEM FOR MAKING
02:06:53
INCIDENT REPORTS. WE HAVE A STANDARD POLICY
02:06:57
IN ALL ACROSS OUR PROGRAMS FOR EXACTLY WHAT TYPE OF INCIDENTS
02:07:01
NEED TO BE REPORTED IMMEDIATELY AND WHAT CAN BE REPORTED WITHIN
02:07:05
24 HOURS. WE HAVE RETRAINED THE PROVIDERS
02:07:08
ON THIS POLICY AND IT IS A CONSISTENT CHECK IN POINT
02:07:12
BETWEEN OUR PROGRAM MANAGERS AND THE CONTRACTORS TO MAKE
02:07:15
SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING QUALITY DATA COMING IN THROUGH
02:07:19
THE CRITICAL INCIDENT REPORTS AND I THINK THERE'S IMPROVED
02:07:21
DRAMATICALLY IN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
02:07:24
>> I HAVE ONE MORE THE REPORT RAISES CONCERNS ABOUT WHETHER
02:07:28
THE HOMELESSNESS OVERSIGHT COMMISSION HAS ENOUGH
02:07:31
INFORMATION ABOUT CONTRACTING AND PROVIDER PERFORMANCE TO
02:07:33
EFFECTIVELY OVERSEE H. S H.
02:07:36
WHAT INFORMATION DOES H. S H CURRENTLY PROVIDE THE
02:07:40
COMMISSION AND ARE THERE PLANS TO IMPROVE THAT REPORTING?
02:07:43
THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. IN TERMS OF WHAT IS PROVIDED TO
02:07:47
COMMISSIONERS IN ADVANCE OF EACH MONTHLY COMMISSION MEETING
02:07:51
IS A VERY FULL DOCKET THAT INVOLVES A COVER MEMO.
02:07:55
>> EVERY CONTRACT THAT WILL BE BEFORE THEM THE ASSOCIATED
02:07:59
BUDGET AND SORT OF A SUMMARY. >> SO THAT IS GIVEN TO THEM FOR
02:08:03
EACH CONTRACT THAT IS ON THE AGENDA WHETHER THAT'S ON
02:08:06
CONSENT OR INDIVIDUAL ITEMS AS WELL AS A PREVIEW OF THE
02:08:10
DIRECTOR'S REPORT AND A PREVIEW OF ANY OTHER PRESENTATIONS THAT
02:08:14
WILL BE MADE DURING THE COMMISSION MEETING.
02:08:15
YOU KNOW WE HAVE A RELATIVELY NEW COMMISSION.
02:08:18
MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT IS NOT UP FOR IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN ANY
02:08:24
OF THESE UPCOMING BALLOT MEASURES AND WE HAVE BEEN IN A
02:08:28
PATTERN OF BACK AND FORTH WITH THE COMMISSION CHAIR OF WHAT IS
02:08:32
THE RIGHT LEVEL OF INFORMATION, WHAT HELPS THEM BE PRODUCTIVE
02:08:35
AND WE REALLY TAKE THE LEAD OF THE COMMISSION AND THE
02:08:36
COMMISSION CHAIR IN TERMS OF WHAT WE PRESENT TO THEM EACH
02:08:39
MONTH. >> OKAY.
02:08:40
THANK YOU COLLEAGUES. >> ANY QUESTIONS?
02:08:46
JUST THE ONE THAT I HAD FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY IF THEY HAVE A
02:08:48
RESPONSE. >> DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY BRAD I
02:08:51
CAN CONFIRM THAT HOMELESSNESS OVERSIGHT COMMISSION IS NOT UP
02:08:55
FOR ELIMINATION AND THE PENDING CHARTER AMENDMENTS.
02:08:58
>> THANK YOU. OKAY.
02:09:01
>> THANK YOU. THE CIVIL GREEN JURY HAS
02:09:06
REQUESTED THAT THE BOARD RESPOND TO FINDINGS ONE, TWO
02:09:10
AND THREE AND RECOMMENDATIONS 1.11.42.1 AND 3.1.
02:09:15
I'M MAKING A MOTION. I'LL BE MAKING A MOTION.
02:09:20
WELL, I GUESS ACTUALLY I SHOULD DO MY PROPOSED FINDINGS OR
02:09:26
PROPOSE BOARD RESPONSE FIRST SO I'LL READ THAT OUT REGARDING
02:09:33
FINDING ONE WHICH READS H S H HAS NOT USED CRITICAL INCIDENT
02:09:38
REPORTS EFFECTIVELY TO IDENTIFY A TROUBLING PATTERNS OR TO
02:09:41
IMPROVE SAFETY AT HOUSING SITES.
02:09:42
I'M PROPOSING THAT WE DIRECT THE CLERK TO RESPOND WITH THE
02:09:46
FOLLOWING. >> RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF
02:09:49
SUPERVISORS REPORTS TO THE PRESIDING JUDGE OF THE SUPERIOR
02:09:51
COURT THAT THEY PARTIALLY DISAGREE WITH FINDING F ONE FOR
02:09:54
THE FOLLOWING REASONS CRITICAL INCIDENT REPORT DATA IS IN USE
02:09:58
AT THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELESSNESS AND SUPPORTIVE
02:10:01
HOUSING WHERE AN AGGREGATED INTERNAL DASHBOARD INFORMS
02:10:05
PROGRAM OVERSIGHT AND PROVIDER ENGAGEMENT AND THE BOARD
02:10:06
DECLINES TO FIND THAT THIS DATA HAS GONE UNUSED.
02:10:10
THE BOARD AGREES, HOWEVER, THAT THIS DATA CAN BE USED MORE
02:10:13
EFFECTIVELY TO IDENTIFY SAFETY RISK ACROSS THE DEPARTMENT'S
02:10:17
PORTFOLIO AND INFORM ITS CONTRACTING DECISIONS AND THAT
02:10:20
THE DEPARTMENT SHOULD CONTINUE TO DEVELOP THE DATA PRACTICES
02:10:22
NECESSARY TO DO SO REGARDING A FINDING TO WHICH READS H H IS
02:10:29
LAGGING IN ITS EFFORTS TO PRESENT DATA THAT ALLOWS FOR
02:10:32
BENCHMARKING NONPROFITS AMONG THEMSELVES BY PROGRAM OR
02:10:36
HOUSING TYPE AND TO USE DATA AS A TRIGGER FOR AUTOMATED
02:10:40
AND TARGETED PROGRAM MONITORING.
02:10:40
I'M PROPOSING THAT WE DIRECT THE CLERK TO RESPOND FOLLOWING
02:10:44
FURTHER RESOLVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REPORTS TO THE
02:10:47
PRESIDING JUDGE OF THE SUPERIOR COURT THAT THEY AGREE WITH
02:10:50
FINDING F TWO FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS THE DEPARTMENT OF
02:10:55
HOMELESSNESS AND SUPPORTIVE HOUSING DOES NOT YET PRESENT
02:10:56
DATA IN A FORM THAT PERMITS COMPARISON OF NONPROFIT
02:10:59
PROVIDERS DELIVERING SIMILAR SERVICES OR USE PERFORMANCE
02:11:03
DATA TO IDENTIFY CONTRACTS WARRANTING FURTHER REVIEW.
02:11:07
AND THE BOARD AGREES THAT SUCH CAPABILITIES WOULD STRENGTHEN
02:11:10
OVERSIGHT OF THE HOMELESSNESS RESPONSE SYSTEM.
02:11:14
REGARDING FINDING THREE WHICH READS AS AGES A CESSATION OF
02:11:18
THE ESTABLISHED PRACTICE OF SUBMITTING CERTAIN CONTRACTS TO
02:11:22
HHC FOR REVIEW AND CONSENT AND NOTIFYING HSC OF ALL
02:11:25
RENEWALS AND EXTENSIONS AS LINE ITEMS UNDERMINES H O C'S IMPACT
02:11:29
AS A GOVERNING OVERSIGHT BODY. >> I'M PROPOSING THAT WE DIRECT
02:11:33
THE CLERK TO RESPOND WITH THE FOLLOWING FURTHER RESOLVED THAT
02:11:37
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REPORTS TO THE PRESIDING JUDGE
02:11:40
OF THE SUPERIOR COURT THAT THEY DISAGREE PARTIALLY WITH FINDING
02:11:44
NUMBER F THREE FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS THE CHARTER
02:11:48
DOES NOT PROVIDE FOR THE SUBMISSION OF INDIVIDUAL
02:11:49
CONTRACTS FOR REVIEW AND CONSENT AS ONE OF THE
02:11:52
MECHANISMS THROUGH WHICH THE COMMISSION EXERCISES ITS
02:11:55
OVERSIGHT DUTIES. THE BOARD AGREES WITH THE CIVIL
02:11:59
GRAND JURY, HOWEVER, THAT ACCESS TO INFORMATION ABOUT THE
02:12:04
DEPARTMENT'S CONTRACTING ACTIVITY CAN SUPPORT THE
02:12:05
COMMISSION'S OVERSIGHT OF THE DEPARTMENT AND URGES THE
02:12:08
DEPARTMENT TO KEEP THE COMMISSION MORE INFORMED OF ITS
02:12:11
CONTRACTING ACTIVITY. REGARDING RECOMMENDATION 1.1
02:12:15
WHICH READS BY DECEMBER 2026 HHS SHOULD MAINTAIN AGGREGATED
02:12:19
AND ANONYMIZED DATA IN A BUSINESS INTELLIGENCE DRIVEN
02:12:24
DASHBOARD UPDATE NO LESS THAN MONTHLY THAT ALLOWS THE USER TO
02:12:27
SEARCH AND FILTER THE DATA SET BY CODE INCIDENT DEATHS,
02:12:30
OVERDOSES, ACTS OR THREATS OF VIOLENCE SEXUAL ASSAULTS
02:12:34
IN SERVICE NONPROFIT PROVIDER HOUSING TYPE LOCATION BY ZIP
02:12:38
CODE AND YEAR. >> I'M PROPOSING THAT WE DIRECT
02:12:39
THE CLERK TO RESPOND FOLLOWING FURTHER RESOLVE THAT THE BOARD
02:12:42
OF SUPERVISORS REPORTS THAT RECOMMENDATION R 1.1 HAS BEEN
02:12:49
IMPLEMENTED. THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELESSNESS
02:12:50
AND SUPPORT OF HOUSING OPERATES A BUSINESS INTELLIGENCE
02:12:53
DASHBOARD THROUGH WHICH AUTHORIZED STAFF CAN SEARCH
02:12:57
AND FILTER CRITICAL INCIDENT DATA BY INCIDENT CODE,
02:13:00
NONPROFIT PROVIDER HOUSING TYPE AND LOCATION BY YEAR.
02:13:04
REGARDING RECOMMENDATION 1.4 WHICH READS BY DECEMBER 2027 H
02:13:07
S H SHOULD DESIGNATE THE MOST SERIOUS CODED INCIDENT CATEGORY
02:13:14
IN CIA HOURS AS STANDARDS IN A SEPARATE ACTION REQUIRED IN ALL
02:13:18
NONPROFIT CONTRACTS. TENTATIVELY TITLED SAFETY
02:13:20
STANDARDS THE SAFETY STANDARDS SECTION SHOULD ALSO INCLUDE
02:13:23
THRESHOLDS FOR TRIGGERING ADDITIONAL TARGETED REVIEW.
02:13:26
I'M PROPOSING THAT REDIRECT THE CLERK TO RESPOND FOLLOWING
02:13:29
FURTHER RESOLVE THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REPORTS
02:13:31
RECOMMENDATION. R 1.4 WILL NOT BE IMPLEMENTED
02:13:34
BY THE BOARD. THE RECOMMENDATION IS DIRECTED
02:13:38
TO THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELESSNESS AND SUPPORT OF
02:13:41
HOUSING AND CONCERNS TECHNICAL AND OPERATIONAL TERMS OF THE
02:13:42
DEPARTMENT'S NONPROFIT CONTRACTS AND THE DEPARTMENT IS
02:13:46
BEST POSITIONED TO DETERMINE THE FEASIBILITY OF ESTABLISHING
02:13:49
A NEW SAFETY STANDARDS SECTION AND THE THRESHOLDS THAT WOULD
02:13:53
ACCOMPANY IT REGARDING RECOMMENDATION 2.1 WHICH READS
02:13:59
BY DECEMBER 2026 HHS SHOULD BEGIN PUBLISHING BUSINESS
02:14:01
INTELLIGENCE DRIVEN DATA DASHBOARDS FOR HRC AND THE
02:14:04
PUBLIC THAT SHOWCASE PERFORMANCE ALIGNED TO THE
02:14:08
PERFORMANCE MEASUREMENT PLAN TO MEET H OR CS AND THE PUBLIC'S
02:14:12
NEED FOR FULL TRANSPARENCY ON THE DATA AND METRICS THAT GUIDE
02:14:16
HHS, HHS DECISION MAKING. I'M PROPOSING THAT WE DIRECT
02:14:20
THE CLERK TO RESPOND THE FOLLOWING.
02:14:24
FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REPORTS THAT THE
02:14:27
RECOMMENDATION R 2.1 HAS BEEN IMPLEMENTED BY THE DEPARTMENT
02:14:31
OF HOMELESSNESS AND SUPPORT OF HOUSING WHICH HAS REPORTED
02:14:35
PUBLISHING PERFORMANCE DATA DRAWN FROM ITS PERFORMANCE
02:14:38
MEASUREMENT PLAN AND MAKING THAT DATA AVAILABLE TO THE
02:14:39
HOMELESSNESS OVERSIGHT COMMISSION AND THE PUBLIC
02:14:43
REGARDING RECOMMENDATION 3.1 WHICH READS BY DECEMBER 26TH
02:14:48
HHS SHOULD RETURN CONTRACTING TOOLS AND EXTENSIONS TO
02:14:52
OFFICES. CONSENT CALENDAR I'M PROPOSING
02:14:53
THAT WE DIRECT THE CLERK TO RESPOND THE FOLLOWING.
02:14:58
FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD IS ADVISED REPORTS THAT THE
02:15:01
RECOMMENDATION R 3.1 WILL NOT BE IMPLEMENTED BECAUSE IT IS
02:15:05
NOT WARRANTED PLACING CONTRACT RENEWALS AND EXTENSIONS ON THE
02:15:08
COMMISSION'S CONSENT CALENDAR WOULD ADD AN EXTRA
02:15:09
ADMINISTRATIVE STEP FOR THE DEPARTMENT AND THE COMMISSION
02:15:13
WITHOUT MATERIALLY AFFECTING THE COMMISSION'S DISCHARGE OF
02:15:16
THE OVERSIGHT DUTIES. THE CHARTER ASSIGNS IT THE
02:15:19
BOARD ENCOURAGES THE DEPARTMENT TO REPORT REGULARLY TO THE
02:15:20
COMMISSION ON CONTRACTING LAWS AND EXTENSIONS AND ON PROVIDER
02:15:24
PERFORMANCE UNDER THOSE CONTRACTS SO THAT THE
02:15:27
COMMISSION HAS THE INFORMATION IT NEEDS TO ESTABLISH
02:15:30
DEPARTMENTAL PERFORMANCE STANDARDS AND ASSESS WHETHER
02:15:31
DEPARTMENT IS MEETING THEM. AND CHAIR SHARE I'LL TURN IT
02:15:35
OVER TO FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. >> THANK YOU.
02:15:39
SUPERVISOR WONG. CAN WE PLEASE TAKE PUBLIC
02:15:42
COMMENT? >> YES.
02:15:43
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEMS NINE
02:15:48
AND TEN SHALL LINE UP NOW ALONG THE SIDE BY THE WINDOWS.
02:15:49
ALL SPEAKERS WILL HAVE ONE MINUTE.
02:15:51
>> HI. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE CHAIR
02:15:55
IF I MAY HAVE MORE THAN ONE MAN.
02:15:58
>> MY NAME IS AISHA MCCAIN AND I'M ERIC MCCAIN SISTER
02:16:01
AND I'M HERE WITH MY BROTHERS ASHES AGAIN BECAUSE MY BROTHER
02:16:06
DIED IN CITY FUNDED SUPPORTIVE HOUSING.
02:16:09
CRITICAL INCIDENT REPORTS ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT BEING LOOKED AT
02:16:13
BECAUSE IF THEY WERE MY BROTHER WOULD NOT BE THE FOURTH FOURTH
02:16:16
PERSON FOUND DECOMPOSED IN JACKIE COLLINS APARTMENTS.
02:16:19
FOURTH WHEN WELLNESS CHECK POLICIES EXIST I AM ASKING THE
02:16:23
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TO AGREE WITH THESE RECOMMENDATIONS OF
02:16:28
CRITICAL INCIDENT REPORTS. >> I HEAR YOU SAYING THAT OH
02:16:32
WELL THEN THE PROVIDERS WON'T WANT TO REPORT THEM IF IT'S
02:16:36
PUBLICLY AVAILABLE AND THAT'S JUST LIKE THEN WHY DO WE HAVE
02:16:39
THOSE PROVIDERS THEN THEY NEED TO GET OUT THE WAY.
02:16:42
>> WE NEED PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT SAN FRANCISCANS.
02:16:46
>> THIS IS OUR CITY LIKE WHY ARE THE NON LIKE WHAT THE FEAR
02:16:51
OF A NONPROFIT PROVIDER NOT DOING THEIR JOB IS THE REASON
02:16:54
THAT WE'RE RECOMMENDING THAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING THAT WE
02:17:01
DON'T FOLLOW CRITICAL INCIDENT REPORTS IT'S JUST IT'S MIND
02:17:05
BLOWING TO ME LIKE MAKE THAT MAKES SENSE AND ADDITIONALLY
02:17:09
THE OVERSIGHT COMMISSION SHOULD BE DOING MORE AND THEY SHOULD
02:17:13
HAVE TRAINING AND THERE SHOULD BE SURPRISE INSPECTIONS AT
02:17:17
THESE PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING SITES.
02:17:21
COMMITTEE SUPERVISOR LONG I'M WENT TO I WENT TO ALL OF YOUR
02:17:26
OFFICES YESTERDAY AND I PASSED OUT A HANDOUT OF WHY CRITICAL
02:17:29
INCIDENT REPORTS MATTER BUT AT YOUR OFFICE MR. WONG ONE OF
02:17:32
YOUR LEGISLATIVE AIDES, YOU KNOW, CAME OUT AND SPOKE TO ME
02:17:34
AND HE SAID HE SAID WE'VE ALREADY THEY'VE ALREADY
02:17:37
DISCUSSED THIS AND KIND OF MADE THEIR DECISION AND YOU KNOW, IT
02:17:43
IS THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS JOBS TO HELP WITH THE MAYOR'S
02:17:45
AGENDA AND THAT IS NOT YOUR JOB.
02:17:48
>> YOUR JOB IS TO REPRESENT THE CITIZENS OF YOUR DISTRICT.
02:17:52
THAT IS YOUR JOB AND THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE ELECTED TO.
02:17:55
>> THESE ARE SAN FRANCISCANS. LET'S GIVE LET'S CARE ABOUT OUR
02:17:59
PEOPLE. >> LET'S MAKE THIS CRITICAL
02:18:03
INCIDENT REPORT THING REAL. IT CAN SAVE LIVES.
02:18:04
LET'S SAVE SOME LIVES LIKE THAT'S NOT HOPE.
02:18:08
THAT'S ALL I'M ASKING FOR. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
02:18:12
I'M SORRY. >> SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR
02:18:15
COMMENTS. THANK YOU.
02:18:16
CAN I DO THIS IS GOING TO TAKE 30S BUT I JUST THINK IT'S
02:18:22
REALLY IMPORTANT THAT THE BOARD HEARS THIS.
02:18:25
SO IF YOU COULD JUST GIVE ME 30 30S I'M SORRY MA'AM.
02:18:29
>> I'M SORRY. WE DO NEED TO KEEP MOVING.
02:18:32
>> I'D BE HAPPY TO MEET WITH YOU AFTER THIS COMMENCES.
02:18:34
OF COURSE YOU WOULD. THIS IS MY BROTHER'S VOICE
02:18:37
AND THEN OF COURSE YOU GUYS HAPPY TO MEET WITH YOU AFTER
02:18:41
THIS PLACE IN ROOM 256 IS MY OFFICE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SIT
02:18:44
WITH YOU? >> IT SOUNDS THANK YOU FOR YOUR
02:18:46
COMMENTS. >> NEXT SPEAKER PLEASE.
02:18:49
>> OH, I IT'S YOUR FAVORITE BROTHER.
02:18:55
I'M I'M WONDERING WHY HE DIDN'T ENTER ON MY OWN STRAIGHT
02:18:58
PERSONAL FOR NO KIDDING. >> I LOVE YOU.
02:19:01
>> I JUST I LOVE YOU. I'M GOING TO MOM SHUT A
02:19:05
HOSPITAL AND I LOVE YOU SO MUCH.
02:19:06
>> GOODBYE. THANK YOU.
02:19:12
>> DO YOU HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS FOR THESE ITEMS?
02:19:16
MR. CHAIR THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT.
02:19:19
>> THANK YOU. SEE NO ADDITIONAL SPEAKERS.
02:19:20
PUBLIC COMMENT IS NOW CLOSED. >> SUPERVISOR WONG THANK YOU
02:19:24
CHAIR CHERYL I MOVE TO AMEND ITEM TEN AS PRESENTED EARLIER.
02:19:26
>> THANK YOU MADAM CLERK YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
02:19:30
>> YES AND ON THE MOTION TO AMEND ITEM TEN IS PRESENTED IT
02:19:33
REMEMBER WONG I REMEMBER WONG I FISCHER FIELDER FISCHER FIELDER
02:19:37
I CHAIR CHERYL CHAIR CHERYL I HAVE THREE EYES THANK YOU THE
02:19:43
MOTION PASSES OKAY I MOVE TO SEND ITEM TEN TO THE FULL BOARD
02:19:47
WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU MADAM CLERK YOU
02:19:50
PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. >> YES AND ON THE MOTION TO
02:19:52
FORWARD ITEM TEN TO THE FULL BOARD WITH A POSITIVE
02:19:54
RECOMMENDATION AS AMENDED. >> REMEMBER WONG REMEMBER WONG
02:19:57
I FISCHER FIELDER FISCHER FIELDER I CHAIR CHERYL CHAIR
02:20:01
CHERYL I HAVE THREE EYES. >> THANK YOU.
02:20:04
THE MOTION PASSES OKAY I MOVE TO FILE ITEM NUMBER NINE.
02:20:08
>> THANK YOU MADAM CLERK. IF YOU CALL THE ROLL.
02:20:09
YES MA'AM. THE MOTION TO FILE ITEM NUMBER
02:20:12
NINE REMEMBER WONG? >> I REMEMBER WONG I VICE CHAIR
02:20:16
FIELDER FISCHER FIELDER FIELDER I CHAIR CHERYL CHAIR CHERYL I
02:20:22
HAVE THREE EYES. >> THANK YOU.
02:20:23
THE MOTION PASSES. MADAM CLERK, PLEASE CALL ITEMS
02:20:27
NUMBER 11 AND 12 TOGETHER. >> YES.
02:20:30
ITEM NUMBER 11 IS A HEARING ON THE 2025 2026 CIVIL GRAND JURY
02:20:35
REPORT ENTITLED WHEN MAKING DO DOESN'T WORK SAN FRANCISCO
02:20:39
JAILS IN CRISIS. AND NUMBER 12 IS ITEM NUMBER 12
02:20:42
IS A RESOLUTION RESPONDING TO THE PRESIDING JUDGE AT THE
02:20:46
SUPERIOR COURT ON THE FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS CONTAINED
02:20:49
IN THE 2025 2026 CIVIL GRAND JURY REPORT ENTITLED WHEN
02:20:52
MAKING DO DOESN'T WORK SAN FRANCISCO JAILS AND CRISIS
02:20:56
IN URGING THE MAYOR TOOK CALLS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF ACCEPTED
02:20:57
FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS THROUGH HIS DEPARTMENT HEADS
02:21:01
AND THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE ANNUAL BUDGET.
02:21:05
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS REPORT.
02:21:09
I BELIEVE WE HAVE MARGARET KEANE FROM THE CIVIL GRAND JURY
02:21:11
HERE. SOPHIA KEELER FROM THE MAYOR'S
02:21:13
OFFICE. SHERIFF MIYAMOTO, THANK YOU FOR
02:21:14
BEING HERE TODAY AS WELL AS I BELIEVE ASSISTANT SHERIFF JOHN
02:21:19
RAMIREZ PERHAPS AND FOR THIS I'D LIKE TO TURN THIS OVER TO
02:21:21
VICE CHAIR SUPERVISOR FIELDER, PLEASE TAKE IT AWAY.
02:21:27
>> THANK YOU, CHAIR. I'D LIKE TO START OFF BY
02:21:28
EXTENDING MY GRATITUDE TO THE CIVIL GRAND JURY FOR THE
02:21:31
THOUGHT AND RESEARCH PUT INTO THIS REPORT.
02:21:33
I ALSO WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES FOR TAKING ON TWO
02:21:36
REPORTS EACH IN THEIR OFFICE AND THEIR STAFF FOR HELPING
02:21:39
PREPARE THE BOARD'S RESPONSE TO THOSE REPORTS REGARDING THIS
02:21:42
REPORT ON OUR JAILS. >> I WANT TO THANK MY STAFF
02:21:44
SHEILA CHUNG HAGAN AND LEE LOVE IT AND OUR INTERN NAMAN SHARMA
02:21:48
FOR THEIR WORK IN HELPING ME BE PREPARED FOR THIS HEARING.
02:21:51
I ALSO WANT TO THANK JOHN CARROLL, CLERK OF THE BOARD
02:21:54
WENDY CREIGHTON CLERK OF THIS THIS BODY AND NICK MENARD OF
02:21:58
THE BUDGET AND LEGISLATIVE ANALYST FOR ANSWERING MY
02:21:59
TECHNICAL QUESTIONS ON THIS PROCESS.
02:22:02
>> THERE HAVE BEEN NUMEROUS REPORTS ABOUT CONDITIONS OR
02:22:03
INCIDENTS IN OUR COUNTY JAILS THIS PAST YEAR OR SO WHICH
02:22:07
MAKES THIS REPORT TIMELY. A CIVIL GRAND JURY REPORT
02:22:11
IDENTIFIED RECOMMENDATIONS FOR MEETING INMATE TREATMENT NEEDS
02:22:14
AND MEDICAL CARE INCLUDING MENTAL HEALTH CARE
02:22:16
AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE TREATMENT AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS,
02:22:18
INCLUDING A RECOMMENDATION THAT ALL OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS
02:22:23
VISIT THE JAILS. >> MEMBERS OF THE CIVIL GRAND
02:22:24
JURY PERSONALLY VISITED THE JAILS THEMSELVES ON MULTIPLE
02:22:27
OCCASIONS TO EXPLORE CONDITIONS AND MANAGEMENT FIRSTHAND
02:22:30
AND THIS REPORT WAS CERTAINLY ENLIGHTENING ON JAIL CONDITIONS
02:22:34
AND BADLY NEEDED INFRASTRUCTURE AND SYSTEMS MANAGEMENT UPGRADES
02:22:38
TO THOSE OF US WHO HAVE NOT YET VISITED THE JAILS.
02:22:42
>> I'LL BE PROPOSING THE BOARD'S RESPONSES TO THE
02:22:43
FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE JURY BUT NOW I'LL HAND IT
02:22:46
OFF TO MISS MARGARET KEANE OF THE CIVIL GRAND JURY IS KEANE.
02:22:50
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR WORK AND FOR PRESENTING THIS ON
02:22:53
BEHALF OF THE JURY. >> PLEASE GO AHEAD.
02:22:54
THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR STILL BEING HERE
02:22:57
AT THIS HOUR. >> WE DID IN FACT VISIT THE
02:23:00
JAILS LAST SUMMER AND THAT'S ONE OF THE FEW THINGS THAT THE
02:23:04
CIVIL GRAND JURY ABSOLUTELY HAS TO DO.
02:23:08
FOLLOWING OUR TOUR WE DECIDED TO LOOK INTO SOME THINGS A
02:23:12
LITTLE DEEPER. >> WHAT WE FOCUSED ON
02:23:15
IN PARTICULAR WAS WHAT HAPPENED IN 2015 AFTER THE CITY DECIDED
02:23:18
NOT TO BUILD A NEW JAIL AND WHETHER THE EXISTING
02:23:22
FACILITIES ARE ADEQUATE TO AND TECHNOLOGY AND STAFF ARE
02:23:26
ADEQUATE FOR TODAY'S PURPOSES AND SEVERAL AREAS WE FOUND THAT
02:23:30
THEY ARE NOT WE APPRECIATE THE MANY CITY WORKERS WHO SPEND
02:23:33
TIME WITH US AND WE APPRECIATE THEIR DEDICATION
02:23:37
AND COMMITMENT. WE WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT THIS
02:23:40
REPORT IS NOT A REPORT ON THE PERFORMANCE OR CONDUCT OF CITY
02:23:44
WORKERS OR PEOPLE AT THE JAIL OR IN JAIL HEALTH BUT FRANKLY
02:23:48
HAS MORE TO DO WITH THE DEPRIVATION OF CAPITAL SINCE
02:23:52
2015 AND OTHER UNANTICIPATED THINGS LIKE THE FENTANYL
02:23:56
EPIDEMIC. >> SO I'M NOT GOING TO GO
02:24:00
THROUGH ALL THE FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS IN MIND
02:24:04
NUMBING DETAIL BUT I WANT TO BRING OUT THREE KEY POINTS THAT
02:24:07
WE FOUND AS WE WENT THROUGH. >> ONE WAS THAT THERE WERE
02:24:12
YEARS OF UNDER INVESTMENT IN BUILDINGS FACILITIES I.T
02:24:18
INFRASTRUCTURE AND TRANSPORTATION.
02:24:19
>> TWO THAT THERE IS A CROWDED POPULATION WITH MORE COMPLEX
02:24:23
NEEDS. IT'S DRIVEN BY CO-OCCURRING
02:24:27
MENTAL HEALTH CONDITIONS, IT'S DRIVEN BY THE FENTANYL EPIDEMIC
02:24:30
WHICH TURNED OUT TO BE HARDER TO TREAT IN SOME WAYS MEDICALLY
02:24:34
THAN OTHER DRUGS SCOURGES AND IT ALSO DEALS WITH
02:24:38
UNDERSTAFFING AND THE RELATED OVERTIME ISSUES.
02:24:45
>> THE JAIL POPULATION HAS GROWN PHENOMENALLY SINCE THE
02:24:49
LOW OF THE PANDEMIC. WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT
02:24:53
CROWDING IN THE POPULATION NOW THE POPULATION HAS GONE DOWN
02:24:56
QUITE A BIT IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS.
02:24:57
>> IT'S STILL HIGH AND WE'LL WE'LL GO OVER THAT BECAUSE I
02:25:01
KNOW THAT WAS A TOPIC THAT WAS ADDRESSED IN THE RESPONSES.
02:25:07
WE WILL GO HERE BACK THERE THE CAPITAL NEGLECTED SOMETHING
02:25:15
THAT WE WILL TALK ABOUT AT LENGTH AS WE GO ON FURTHER
02:25:18
ALONG WITH THE DISCHARGE PLANNING AND THE NEED FOR
02:25:22
DIFFERENT MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE NEEDS
02:25:26
SUPPORT. >> THE ANNEX IS THE BUILDING
02:25:30
THAT WAS OPENED IN NOVEMBER OR SO OF 2023 WHEN THE POPULATION
02:25:33
WAS GOING UP AND THE SHERIFF NEEDED MORE SPACE FOR THE
02:25:36
PEOPLE WHO ARE BROUGHT TO THE JAILS.
02:25:40
>> THAT WAS A FACILITY THAT HAD NOT BEEN USED TO HOUSE PEOPLE
02:25:44
SINCE PROBABLY 2010 ISH. >> IT WAS MOSTLY USED FOR
02:25:50
TRAINING BUT THERE WAS HAD BEEN A HISTORY BACK IN THE THE 2015
02:25:57
2016 TIME ZONE OF PEOPLE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT BUILDINGS
02:26:01
AND SAYING CAN WE PUT MAXIMUM SECURITY PEOPLE IN DORMITORY
02:26:05
HOUSING? AND THERE WERE SEVERAL
02:26:08
AND SEVERAL PEOPLE INCLUDING THE PRIOR SHERIFF.
02:26:12
SO SHERIFF HENNESSEY AND THE EXPERT THAT THE SHERIFF HAD
02:26:16
RETAINED TO DEVELOP THE CLASSIFICATION SYSTEM WHO
02:26:17
CONCLUDED THAT IT WAS DANGEROUS TO HAVE PEOPLE IN THAT WE GRAND
02:26:24
JURY CAN'T TELL YOU ONE WAY OR THE OTHER WHETHER IT IS
02:26:27
DANGEROUS. BUT WE DO THINK THAT THERE WAS
02:26:28
SUCH A SIGNIFICANT COUPLING OF PEOPLE'S OPINION AT THAT POINT
02:26:35
IN TIME THAT IT NEEDS TO BE EXPLORED NOW AND BETTER NOW
02:26:38
WHEN THINGS HAVE SLOWED DOWN A LITTLE AND WE ARE NOT IN A DIRE
02:26:40
EMERGENCY BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
02:26:44
THE SHERIFF HAS SAID HE WILL ADVANCE THE RECOMMENDATION TO
02:26:48
CONSULT A CLASSIFICATION EXPERT I GUESS ADVANCE THE
02:26:51
RECOMMENDATION PROBABLY ALSO MEANS NEEDS THE FUNDING BUT
02:26:55
I'LL LEAVE THAT TO THE SHERIFF .
02:26:58
>> WE THE TECHNOLOGY WILL BLOW YOUR MIND OR THE LACK OF
02:27:03
TECHNOLOGY WHEN YOU GO THROUGH SHERIFF'S PROCEDURES
02:27:07
AND MANUALS THE AMOUNT OF PAPER IS IS ABSOLUTELY MIND BLOWING
02:27:11
AND I'M NOT A DIGITAL NATIVE. IT'S JUST ASTONISHING.
02:27:15
SO THIS IS ALL UNDER PLAY UNDERWAY.
02:27:18
>> WE DID NOTICE THAT THERE WAS A REPORT THAT WAS ATTACHED TO
02:27:22
THE SHERIFF'S RESPONSE THAT MENTIONED THAT THE GO LIVE ON
02:27:25
THE NEW SYSTEM WAS SET FOR SEPTEMBER OF 26.
02:27:27
THAT WOULD BE THIS MONTH. >> WE THINK THAT YOU MIGHT WANT
02:27:30
TO ASK IF THAT'S STILL ON TARGET IF IT IS, GOD BLESS YOU
02:27:34
BUT WE ARE NOT SO SURE IT IS IT IS ONE OF THE SEEMS TO BE ONE
02:27:43
OF THE FAVORITE THINGS TO GIVE UP WHEN THE SHERIFF IS GOING
02:27:46
BEFORE THE SUPERVISORS TO REAPPROPRIATE MONEY
02:27:47
AND APPROPRIATED INTO THE OVERTIME BUDGET AND WE HAVE
02:27:54
SUGGESTED THAT IN ORDER TO HOPEFULLY DISCOURAGE THAT
02:27:58
PRACTICE THAT THERE BE A FULSOME DISCUSSION WITH THE
02:28:01
BOARD OF SUPERVISORS BEFORE FUTURE IT AND OTHER CAPITAL
02:28:05
INVESTMENTS ARE TRANSFERRED OVER TO OVER TIME FACILITY
02:28:11
LOCKDOWNS WE GET WE CAN GET TO THAT IN A BIT BECAUSE THERE'S
02:28:16
SOME TERMINOLOGY ISSUES THERE SO THE COUNT IS DOWN BUT I
02:28:22
THINK IT'S REALLY PREMATURE TO SAY THAT IT'S SOLVED.
02:28:23
>> IT'S GONE DOWN IN THE LAST FOUR MONTHS.
02:28:27
WHY HAS IT GONE DOWN IN THE LAST FOUR MONTHS?
02:28:32
CALIFORNIA SUPREME COURT RENDERED AN OPINION CALLED
02:28:34
ENRICO WALCZAK. LONG STORY SHORT ON THAT IT'S
02:28:35
EFFECTIVE. WE MADE IT ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO
02:28:40
HAVE PRETRIAL DETENTION OF PERSONS HELD ARE ARRESTED ON
02:28:43
MISDEMEANORS AND JUST SOMEWHAT LESSER EXTENT ON NONVIOLENT
02:28:48
FELONIES. THERE'S EXCEPTIONS IF PEOPLE
02:28:51
HAVE WARRANTS AND DIFFERENT HISTORIES BUT THERE'S NO
02:28:54
QUESTION THAT IT HAS REDUCED THE POPULATION PARTIALLY
02:28:55
BECAUSE OF A LOT OF MOTIONS TO LET PEOPLE OUT TO HAVE PEOPLE
02:28:59
RELEASED ON LEGAL SIDE. >> BUT SOMETHING THAT WE FOUND
02:29:06
THAT WAS REALLY INTERESTING IS THE JAIL BOOKINGS ARE WAY UP SO
02:29:07
THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN THE JAIL IS DOWN WHO ARE KEPT BUT
02:29:11
THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO COME INTO THE JAIL ARE ARRESTED,
02:29:14
BROUGHT TO THE COUNTY JAIL AND PROCESSED, BOOKED,
02:29:18
FINGERPRINTED, ETC. IS WAY UP. IT'S HIGHER THAN IT'S BEEN
02:29:22
SINCE THE THINK IT WAS AUGUST OF 2019.
02:29:25
SO IT'S A BIG INCREASE AND THE POLICE HAVE ALSO EXPERIENCED AN
02:29:29
INCREASE IN SOME OF THEIR ACTIVITIES.
02:29:32
SO WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THESE PEOPLE?
02:29:33
IS IT THAT WE'RE LETTING OUT PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN THERE AT
02:29:36
SUCH A HIGH RATE THAT THE NEW PEOPLE AREN'T BEING REFLECTED
02:29:40
SOMEHOW IN THE POPULATION? IS IT BECAUSE THEY'RE COMING
02:29:44
IN AND GOING OUT IN TWO HOURS, FOUR HOURS, SIX HOURS GOING
02:29:46
BACK TO SIXTH STREET OR THE TENDERLOIN AFTER THEY'RE
02:29:50
FINGERPRINTED AND BOOKED? >> WE DON'T KNOW BECAUSE THE
02:29:52
DATA IS NOT VERY GOOD. >> THE SHERIFF'S RESPONSE TALKS
02:29:57
ABOUT SOME DATA THEY HAVE I DON'T KNOW WE DIDN'T SEE IT
02:30:01
DURING OUR INVESTIGATION. THERE WAS A 2018 REPORT IS 2026
02:30:04
NOW AND WE DON'T REALLY KNOW WHO'S GOING IN AND OUT THERE,
02:30:08
WHO'S RELEASED BEFORE THEY GO INTO THE JAIL, HOW MANY PEOPLE
02:30:12
A DAY ARE JUST IN AND OUT? >> THERE'S DETOX PEOPLE THAT'S
02:30:18
THAT'S A PRIVACY THING OBVIOUSLY ON SOME LEVEL.
02:30:20
BUT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE BROUGHT IN TO DETOX AND LET
02:30:24
GO IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE REPORTED.
02:30:26
THE RESEARCH CENTER WAS NOT PART OF OUR INVESTIGATION BUT
02:30:30
THE RESEARCH CENTER HAD BEEN OPEN SINCE MAY AND THESE ARE
02:30:33
NUMBERS THAT ARE STILL JULY AND AUGUST.
02:30:35
SO THE RESEARCH CENTER DOESN'T SEEM TO BE TAKING THOSE OUT.
02:30:37
>> WE THINK THAT ALONE TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE POPULATION
02:30:41
AND WHAT'S GOING ON BETTER IS SOMETHING THAT'S ESSENTIAL
02:30:44
BEFORE PEOPLE DECIDE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO STOP FUTURE
02:30:46
PLANNING BECAUSE OF CULTURE. IN ADDITION, THERE'S A HUGE
02:30:49
LEAD TIME TO CHANGE FACILITIES AT THE JAIL TO GET MONEY.
02:30:53
I DON'T WANT TO BE CYNICAL BUT IN SAN FRANCISCO IT'S A REALLY
02:30:56
LONG LEAD TIME TO GET ANY MONEY FOR THE JAIL.
02:31:00
>> AND SO TO SAY THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO CONTINUE
02:31:02
AND FIGURE OUT HOW WE'RE USING THE ANNEX WHAT'S GOING ON
02:31:08
IN COUNTY JAIL ONE THE WHOLE IS BASED ON FOUR MONTHS DATA WE
02:31:11
JUST THINK IS PREMATURE. >> IT'S THE INTAKE VOLUME IS
02:31:17
BASICALLY THE SAME AS IT WAS IN 2019.
02:31:18
THERE'S BIG DIFFERENCES IN 2019 FROM 2019.
02:31:24
IN 2019 YOU HAD 402 BEDS ON BRYANT STREET IN WHAT WAS THEN
02:31:28
CALLED COUNTY JAIL FOR PROBABLY MORE IMPORTANTLY IN COUNTY JAIL
02:31:32
FOR THERE WERE WHAT ARE CALLED HOLDING CELLS THE SHERIFF HAS A
02:31:39
NEED FOR A PLACE TO PUT PEOPLE WHILE THEY'RE WAITING FOR THEIR
02:31:42
COURT HEARING. AND WITH SO MANY PEOPLE NOW AT
02:31:44
THE ANNEX COMING UP IN THE DILAPIDATED BUSSES SOME OF
02:31:48
WHICH HAVE HOLES IN THE FLOOR, THEY THEN GO TO THE TWO C.J ONE
02:31:54
AND THEY WAIT THERE OKAY THEY GET UP AT FIVE IN THE MORNING
02:31:58
TO GET UP THERE AND IN C.J. ONE WE HAVE A LOT OF THINGS GOING
02:32:04
ON AND I WILL TALK A LOT ABOUT C.J. ONE BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A
02:32:06
GOOD EXAMPLE OF WHERE A LOT OF THE TRENDS THAT WE SAW CAME
02:32:10
TOGETHER CAME TOGETHER IN A LOT OF OTHER PLACES.
02:32:12
>> BUT WE'LL JUST TALK ABOUT THIS ONE TO KEEP IT MOVING KIND
02:32:17
OF. >> JOE ONE YOU HAVE BOOKING SO
02:32:20
YOU GO IN IT'S FINGERPRINTING, IT'S GETTING YOUR PICTURE
02:32:23
TAKEN. IT'S GETTING AS SOMEBODY SAID
02:32:24
TO ME YOU GET YOUR ORANGES AND THERE'S A TRIAGE NURSE WHO
02:32:30
CHECKS EVERYBODY COMING IN BEFORE THE POLICE OFFICER IS
02:32:33
ALLOWED THE ARRESTING OFFICER IS ALLOWED TO LEAVE THE TRIAGED
02:32:37
NURSE HAS TO SAY OKAY, THIS PERSON IS HEALTHY ENOUGH TO BE
02:32:39
HERE. >> THEY DON'T NEED TO
02:32:42
IMMEDIATELY GO TO A HOSPITAL FOR INSTANCE.
02:32:45
>> ALL KINDS OF THINGS ARE HAPPENING IN THERE.
02:32:48
IT'S A COMPLICATED PROCESS BUT BASICALLY THAT'S THE BOOKING
02:32:50
PROCESS. >> IN ADDITION TO THE BOOKING
02:32:52
YOU HAVE A RELEASE SO I GO TO COURT, THEY LET ME GO.
02:32:56
SOMEBODY COMES TO PAY BAIL. >> MAYBE I NEEDED TO SHOW ID ON
02:33:00
A SIGN AND RELEASE WHATEVER BUT PEOPLE LEAVE SO THE RELEASES
02:33:04
ARE ACTUALLY ABOUT THE SAME AS THE THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE COMING
02:33:13
IN AND IT'S A LOT GOING ON IN ONE PLACE AND IT'S HARD FOR
02:33:16
A TRIAGE NURSE TO BE TALKING TO SOMEBODY ABOUT THEIR HEALTH
02:33:20
WHILE SOMEBODY ELSE IS SCREAMING AND SOMEBODY IS
02:33:24
IN WITHDRAWAL AND SO IT'S KIND OF A CHAOTIC PLACE AND THIS
02:33:27
WHOLE ISSUE OF THE HOLDING HAS PUT IT ON OVERLOAD AND WE HEARD
02:33:32
REALLY SERIOUS PEOPLE SAY THINGS TO US USING WORDS LIKE
02:33:35
DANGEROUS AND UNSAFE WHICH PUT US GOT US MORE FOCUSED ON THIS
02:33:40
SITUATION. IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN
02:33:43
KNOWN SINCE BEFORE BRYANT STREET JAILS CLOSED.
02:33:46
>> IT'S BEEN KNOWN SINCE 2015 THAT THERE'S A NEED RIGHT NOW
02:33:50
IN THE SHERIFF'S RESPONSE THEY TALKED ABOUT WHAT WOULD HAPPEN
02:33:51
WITH THE REBUILDING THE JUSTICE FACILITIES, THE COURTHOUSES.
02:33:58
I DON'T KNOW WHEN THAT WILL HAPPEN BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO
02:34:03
HAPPEN ANY TIME SOON AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT IN THE THE
02:34:06
MAYOR'S REPORT DID TALK ABOUT OF THE CAPITAL PLAN.
02:34:10
IT'S WHAT'S CALLED EMERGING EMERGING STATUS IS NOT
02:34:13
DEFERRED. IT IS NOT IN THE BOOK.
02:34:17
IT DOESN'T HAVE A NUMBER. IT'S OUTSIDE THE TEN YEAR PLAN.
02:34:20
SO REALLY THERE IS NO PLAN TO DEAL WITH THIS UNTIL SOMEDAY
02:34:23
WHEN SOMETHING GOES WRONG. >> SO I AM TAKING TO ONE HERE
02:34:30
WE HAVE INCREASINGLY COMPLEX HEALTH NEEDS.
02:34:34
WE HAVE A NEED FOR MORE REENTRY SERVICES.
02:34:35
WE PROPOSE A STUDY BETWEEN THE JAIL AND THE DEPARTMENT OF
02:34:42
PUBLIC HEALTH TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES AND MAKE
02:34:43
PROPOSALS. >> THERE WERE SOME OPPOSITION
02:34:47
TO IT AS NOT REASONABLE. WE THINK IN THE ORDINARY COURSE
02:34:51
THESE ISSUES ARE NOT BEING ADDRESSED ADEQUATELY AND THAT
02:34:54
THE POINT OF HAVING SOME KIND OF COMMITTEE OR TASK FORCE
02:34:56
WOULD GET THE FOCUS ON THEM THAT THEY NEED.
02:34:59
THEY'RE INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT. THE DECADE OF DEFERRAL I COULD
02:35:06
GO ON ABOUT THIS FOR A LONG TIME BUT I'LL SPARE YOU IT'S
02:35:08
BASICALLY SINCE 2015 THERE'S BEEN A STARVATION DIET AS FAR
02:35:14
AS CAPITAL FOR THE JAIL AND YOU HAD EARTHQUAKE BONDS WHERE SAY
02:35:18
THE CORONER GOT IT ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL NEW FACILITY HIGH
02:35:22
TECH STATE OF THE ART AND THE JAILS GOT THE PROVERBIAL NO
02:35:26
SOUP YOU CAN READ SLIDE AND WE'RE NOT ASKING FOR A NEW
02:35:31
JAIL. WE UNDERSTAND THE CONTROVERSY
02:35:34
THERE BUT WE WANT THE COMMITMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE
02:35:37
TO BE CONFIRMED. WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE A SHERIFF
02:35:41
AND PLAN WITH YOU AT THE TABLE BUT IF NOT, OUR RECOMMENDATION
02:35:45
ALSO PROVIDED FOR THE SHERIFF TO CONDUCT THAT INDEPENDENTLY.
02:35:49
>> THERE NEEDS TO BE A COOK A COMPREHENSIVE ASSESSMENT OF
02:35:55
JAIL CAPITAL NEEDS OVERALL NOT THE CUT AND PASTE AND YES THERE
02:36:00
IS CUT AND PASTE YEAR IN YEAR OUT IN THE CITY CAPITAL PLAN
02:36:04
THE SAME THINGS ARE SAID SOMEBODY NEEDS TO LOOK AT IT,
02:36:08
LOOK AT IT TODAY AND SEE WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
02:36:10
AND THEN ON THE PHYSICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS WE NEED
02:36:15
TO LOOK AT THAT AND RESPOND ON THE EVIDENCE.
02:36:18
>> SO YOU YOU WANT TO WHY LAST THING YOU WANT TO KNOW WHAT
02:36:23
MAKING DO IS ABOUT WE INTERVIEWED A LOT OF PEOPLE
02:36:26
AND WE WOULD SAY HOW CAN YOU DO THIS WHEN OR WHAT DO YOU DO
02:36:29
THIS? >> WELL WE MAKE DO AND WE HEARD
02:36:31
THAT OVER AND OVER LIKE AS A REALLY GREAT AS A YOU KNOW,
02:36:35
PEOPLE WORKING THERE THAT'S WONDERFUL BUT THE SYSTEM
02:36:38
SHOULDN'T HAVE TO MAKE DO THE SYSTEM SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO
02:36:41
BETTER AND WITH THAT I THANK YOU ALL AND WE THANK ALL THE
02:36:45
DEDICATED PEOPLE WHO WORK IN THE JAILS.
02:36:46
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU, MS. KANE
02:36:50
COLLEAGUES, ANY QUESTIONS OR REMARKS FOR MS..
02:36:54
>> KING? >> ALL RIGHT.
02:36:57
I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR THE GRAND JURY AND THANK YOU
02:36:58
IN ADVANCE FOR BEARING WITH ME. >> SO JUST TO BACK IT UP, WHAT
02:37:04
ARE THE PRIORITY ISSUES IN OUR JAIL SYSTEM ACCORDING TO YOU?
02:37:08
>> I THINK THE PRIORITY ISSUES ARE DEALING WITH THE THE
02:37:12
PROBLEMS IN COUNTY JAIL. ONE, THAT'S WHERE PEOPLE START.
02:37:17
IT'S WHERE THE WHOLE PROCESS STARTS ALSO WHERE YOU END.
02:37:21
SO IF YOU GET DUMPED OUT AT TWO IN THE MORNING AND YOU HAVE NO
02:37:25
PLACE TO GO AND YOU JUST DECIDE TO GO BACK DOWN SIXTH STREET,
02:37:27
THAT'S NOT REALLY A WIN FOR ANYBODY IF THAT'S WHERE IT
02:37:31
ENDS. >> SO I THINK THAT'S CRITICAL
02:37:32
TREATMENT PARTICULARLY ON THE MENTAL HEALTH SIDE IS CRITICAL
02:37:36
SUPPORT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH.
02:37:39
PEOPLE WHO WORK THERE SUPPORT FOR ANYBODY IN THE IN THE
02:37:42
SHERIFF'S POPULATION IS WORKING IN A SEVERELY UNDERSTAFFED
02:37:47
SITUATION. >> IN THE MOST RECENT NUMBERS
02:37:51
WE HAD SAID THAT THE ONE FOR INSTANCE WAS AT 70% STAFFING.
02:37:54
YOU ALSO HAVE THINGS IN THE JAILS WHERE THE PUBLIC HEALTH
02:37:58
PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO DO JAIL SIDE DIRECT TREATMENT.
02:38:02
THEY WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT DOWN IN THEIR MEDICAL FACILITY.
02:38:06
BUT THERE'S TIMES A DAY WHEN THERE ARE NO DEPUTIES AVAILABLE
02:38:09
TO STAFF THAT SO IT'S A RISK FOR THEM.
02:38:10
IT'S NOT A GOOD TREATMENT THING .
02:38:15
SO I WOULD I WOULD SAY THE COUNTY JAIL ONE SITUATION THE
02:38:19
ISSUES WITH DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND THE DEPUTIES
02:38:26
IN THE CURRENT CONTEXT WHERE WE HAVE MORE AND MORE DRUG
02:38:29
AND MENTAL HEALTH PROBLEMS AND THE OVERALL INFRASTRUCTURE
02:38:34
AND I LOOK AT WHAT THE ANNEX IN THE LIGHT OF DAY NOT WHEN WE
02:38:41
HAVE PEOPLE ON THE STREET THAT THEY NEED TO FIND SPACE FOR
02:38:45
AND FILLING IT OUT SO QUICKLY AS AS DID HAPPEN.
02:38:48
>> THE TECHNOLOGY IS JUST SO AWFUL THERE'S NO EXCUSE
02:38:52
AND IT'S NOT OH I WANT THE CLUELESS IPHONE.
02:38:53
IT'S THIS TECHNOLOGY LITERALLY HINDERS THEIR ABILITY TO DO
02:38:59
THEIR JOBS AND TO SERVE THE PEOPLE THAT THEY SERVE.
02:39:03
AND IT HAPPENED EVERY DAY EVERY DAY IN DIFFERENT WAYS IT
02:39:07
MANIFESTS ITSELF. SO THE TECHNOLOGY NEEDS TO
02:39:11
HAPPEN AND BE CONSISTENT I THINK IN THE DATA THE DATA WE
02:39:15
HEAR A LITTLE ABOUT DATA BEFORE BUT DATA IS JUST IT'S CRITICAL
02:39:19
TO UNDERSTAND WHO'S COMING IN WHERE THEY'RE COMING FROM
02:39:23
AND IT'S A IT'S A MANAGEMENT THING BUT IT'S ALSO POTENTIALLY
02:39:26
A POLICY THING. I MEAN THE GRAND JURY DOES NOT
02:39:27
MAKE POLICY BUT THE PEOPLE IN THE CITY WHO MAKE POLICY
02:39:31
SHOULD UNDERSTAND WHO AND WHAT AND WHERE AS IS HAPPENING AT
02:39:35
THE JAIL. SO THAT'S MY SUMMARY I THINK.
02:39:38
>> THANK YOU. OUR 12 ASKED THE COMPTROLLER TO
02:39:41
AUDIT OVERTIME PRACTICES THROUGH 2026 INCLUDING AREAS OF
02:39:44
ACTUAL OR POTENTIAL ABUSE. >> DID THE JURY'S OWN
02:39:48
INVESTIGATION FIND ANY EVIDENCE OF OVERTIME ABUSE SPECIFICALLY
02:39:52
OR WAS THAT SCOPE ITEM INCLUDED AS A GENERAL BEST PRACTICE
02:39:53
RATHER THAN SOMETHING THAT JURIES INTERVIEWS ACTUALLY
02:39:57
SURFACE? >> WHAT TWO THINGS ON THAT.
02:40:00
>> NUMBER ONE, WE READ THE NIGHT 2019 CONTROLLERS REPORT
02:40:03
ON OVERTIME AND NUMEROUS PRACTICES THAT THEY RECOMMENDED
02:40:08
AND WHAT WE LEARNED WAS THAT AS A RESULT OF THE PANDEMIC THOSE
02:40:12
THINGS DIDN'T REALLY GET FOLLOWED UP ON.
02:40:15
VERY LITTLE HAPPENED IN RESPONSE TO THAT REPORTEDLY
02:40:18
JUST INITIALLY AND WE FELT THAT BASED ON THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF
02:40:23
OVERTIME AND HOW IT WAS CAUSING SORT OF CANNIBALIZATION OF
02:40:27
OTHER RESOURCES AND MORTGAGING THE FUTURE TO PAY FOR IT THAT
02:40:31
IT NEEDED TO BE LOOKED AT. >> IT'S TOUGH ON DEPUTIES.
02:40:34
>> I MEAN THERE MAY BE PEOPLE WHO REALLY COVET THE OVERTIME
02:40:38
BUT THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE WHO IT CAN MAKE PHYSICALLY ILL
02:40:42
AND WORN DOWN FROM WORKING TOO MUCH SO WE THOUGHT IT WAS A
02:40:43
PRACTICE THAT NEEDED THE LIGHT OF DAY.
02:40:46
>> WE SUBSEQUENTLY LEARNED THAT YOU SUPERVISOR FIELDER HAD MADE
02:40:54
A MOTION FOR AN AUDIT. >> WE UNDERSTAND NOW THAT THAT
02:40:57
WAS APPROVED ON AUGUST 20TH EIGHTH AND I LOOKED AT THE
02:41:01
MOTION APPROVING IT AND IT COVERS OVERTIME IN ALL ITS
02:41:05
FACETS SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROPER WAY OF SAYING WE CAN
02:41:10
WITHDRAW THAT. YEAH THE RECOMMENDATION ON 12
02:41:15
BUT I THINK THAT'S COVERED IT WAS IMPORTANT TO US THAT IT BE
02:41:17
COVERED BY SOMEBODY WHO HAD RESOURCES TO DO A DEEPER DIVE
02:41:20
THAN WE HAD. >> THANK YOU.
02:41:26
GIVEN AT LEAST THREE POTENTIAL DATA DISCREPANCIES DOCUMENTED
02:41:29
IN THE REPORT ITSELF, SHOULD THERE BE A SINGLE AUTHORITATIVE
02:41:34
INDEPENDENTLY AUDITED POPULATION OR CAPACITY
02:41:37
DASHBOARD BEFORE RELYING ON ANY PARTY'S NUMBERS IN FUTURE
02:41:41
POLICY DECISIONS? >> THE SHERIFF DOES NUMBERS
02:41:45
EVERY MORNING THERE'S A 5 A.M. COUNT AT COUNTY JAIL ONE THOSE
02:41:49
ARE ON THERE. IT GIVES 30 DAY AND 180 DAYS
02:41:53
BEHIND. >> IT'S A BIG DASHBOARD.
02:41:56
THE PROBLEM IS WE DON'T KNOW FROM IT WHETHER IT'S ONLY THE
02:42:00
PEOPLE IN THE BEDS OR WHETHER IT INCLUDES THE PEOPLE WHO
02:42:04
HAPPEN TO BE THERE IN COUNTY JAIL ONE BUT HAVEN'T BEEN
02:42:05
RELEASED YET. WE DON'T KNOW.
02:42:08
THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE DON'T KNOW AND THERE ARE A
02:42:11
LOT OF INCONSISTENCIES ABOUT THE DATA AND I WOULDN'T BE
02:42:15
SURPRISED IF THERE'S INCONSISTENCIES WITH THE WAY IT
02:42:16
GETS REPORTED FROM DIFFERENT FACILITIES WITHIN.
02:42:19
>> BUT I THINK IT'S I HATE TO SAY IT BUT IT'S ANOTHER AREA
02:42:23
THAT WOULD PROBABLY BENEFIT FROM A STUDY.
02:42:24
WHAT DO WE NEED TO GET AND HOW DO WE DO IT OR MAYBE SOMEBODY
02:42:28
JUST GOING THROUGH THE BASIC MANUAL IN DETAIL BECAUSE THAT
02:42:34
PROBABLY HASN'T BEEN DONE IN A LONG TIME AND FIGURING OUT
02:42:35
EXACTLY HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO COUNT IN THERE.
02:42:38
BUT THERE ARE SO MANY INCONSISTENCIES.
02:42:39
THE SJC REPORTS WHICH ARE THE THEY'RE VERY PRETTY IN GREAT
02:42:43
COLOR AND THEY HAVE A LOT OF DIFFERENT RATE INFORMATION.
02:42:47
THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY THE SAME INFORMATION EVERY MONTH.
02:42:50
YOU RARELY GET THE INFORMATION ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE
02:42:54
RECIDIVISTS. YOU DON'T GET INFORMATION THAT
02:42:59
WAS KEPT AT SOME POINT DURING THE PANDEMIC ABOUT HOW MANY
02:43:03
PEOPLE WERE RELEASED IN JUST A COUPLE HOURS.
02:43:08
IT'S JUST THERE'S ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT DATA IN DIFFERENT
02:43:09
PLACES AND IT DOESN'T RECONCILE .
02:43:12
SO SOME KIND OF PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH IT RIGOROUSLY
02:43:16
AND IT'S HARD THING WITH THE SHERIFF'S UNDERFUNDED I BELIEVE
02:43:23
AND PEOPLE HAVE A LOT TO DO AND I GET THAT THEY'RE NOT
02:43:25
SITTING THERE TO DO THE PERFECT DATA STUDY BUT IT'S I HEARD
02:43:31
SOMEBODY AT THE OVERSIGHT BOARD JUST SAY RECENTLY, LOOK, IT'S
02:43:32
THERE ALWAYS TELLING US THEIR SYSTEMS ARE TERRIBLE BUT
02:43:35
THERE'S A TIME WHEN IT'S GOT TO BE FIXED AND WE GOT TO MOVE
02:43:39
FORWARD SO SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE THERE.
02:43:42
THANK YOU. AND IF WE GO TO THIS NEXT
02:43:46
QUESTION, WHAT DOES THE JURY HOPE THAT DEPARTMENTS,
02:43:50
SUPERVISOR OFFICES, ETC. WILL LEARN OR TAKE AWAY FROM THE
02:43:54
RECOMMENDED COUNTY JAIL INSPECTIONS IS THERE A CERTAIN
02:43:58
TIME AND DO YOU RECOMMEND REVISIT I WOULD SUGGEST THAT
02:44:02
YOU GO TO COUNTY JAIL ONE IN THE MORNING.
02:44:03
I WOULD PROBABLY GO THERE ON A MONDAY MORNING WHEN ALL THE
02:44:07
PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN BROUGHT IN OVER THE WEEKEND ARE IN THE
02:44:10
PROCESS OF OF YOU KNOW, GOING BEFORE THE COURT FOR
02:44:13
ARRAIGNMENT OR WHATEVER AND SEE IT IN ITS ELEMENT OR YOU COULD
02:44:20
GO I DON'T KNOW THE SHERIFF COULD PROBABLY GIVE YOU SOME
02:44:24
IDEAS BUT YOU COULD ALSO GO AT A TIME WHEN THERE ARE A LOT OF
02:44:26
PEOPLE IN DETOX BECAUSE I KNOW JUST THAT THE TIME WE WENT I
02:44:29
WAS THAT HAUNTED ME WHEN I WENT HOME.
02:44:35
>> SO THAT'S THE THING THAT YOU WOULD LOOK AT.
02:44:39
>> I WOULD TALK WE HAD SOMETHING IN OUR
02:44:40
RECOMMENDATIONS SUGGESTING THAT THE PERSON WHO RAN EACH
02:44:44
PARTICULAR FACILITY BE ON THE JAIL BECAUSE I THINK YOU GET A
02:44:50
LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT AS WE WENT THROUGH WITH A BIG GROUP SOME
02:44:54
OF THE PEOPLE WHO WERE MORE HANDS ON WOOD WERE TALKING TO
02:44:57
DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, SUBGROUPS ONE ON ONE.
02:45:00
AND WHEN WE DID OUR FIRST TOUR AND YOU LEARN DIFFERENT THINGS
02:45:04
IT'S IT'S DIFFERENT IF THE SHERIFF'S VIEW OF THE THE JAIL
02:45:09
IS DIFFERENT THAN SOMEBODY WHO LIVES THERE NOT BEHIND BARS BUT
02:45:12
THEY BASICALLY LIVE THERE. SO THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT I
02:45:17
THINK THAT YOU WANT TO TALK TO AND WHAT THEY NEED THAT THEY'RE
02:45:20
NOT GETTING. >> THANK YOU.
02:45:23
REGARDING THE CALLING OF A CROWDING COMMITTEE, THERE SEEMS
02:45:28
TO BE A MISTAKE ABOUT WHETHER THE TRIGGERS HAVE BEEN MET.
02:45:30
>> THE MANUAL ITSELF READS WHEN THE NUMBER OF INCARCERATED
02:45:32
PERSONS EXCEEDS THE APPROVED BED CAPACITY OF A FACILITY, THE
02:45:35
SHERIFF SHOULD SCHEDULE A MEETING WITH THE COMMITTEE BUT
02:45:39
THAT QUOTE IN THE EVENT THAT EACH COUNTY JAIL MAINTAINS AN
02:45:42
AVERAGE 80% OCCUPANCY RATE CONSISTENTLY FOR ONE YEAR, THE
02:45:45
DEPARTMENT SHOULD INITIATE A JAIL NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
02:45:49
>> DID THE JURY MAKE A MISTAKE IN ASSESSING THE TRIGGER FOR
02:45:53
CROWDING? >> I THINK THERE'S A COUPLE OF
02:45:57
THINGS GOING ON. THE I DON'T THINK THE
02:45:58
PROCEDURES EVER BEEN USED BASED ON PEOPLE WHO WE ASKED AND IN
02:46:04
THE FIRST PART IT TALKS ABOUT WHEN YOU ARE OVER CAPACITY BUT
02:46:08
THE CAPACITY IS FACILITY BY FACILITY AND I DO THINK THAT
02:46:12
THERE ARE POINTS IN TIME WHEN CERTAIN FACILITIES HAVE BEEN
02:46:15
OVER CAPACITY AND THEN IT MOVES INTO WHEN THE THE FIVE 11.3
02:46:22
MOVES INTO THE SCENARIO WHERE THE WHOLE SYSTEM IS RUNNING AT
02:46:27
AN 80% RATE AND THERE IF YOU FOR A YEAR AND IF YOU LOOK AT
02:46:31
WHAT THE NUMBERS WERE AT THE END OF 2025 I BELIEVE IT WAS
02:46:38
THE NUMBER IN THE SHERIFF'S 2025 ANNUAL REPORT WAS 1284
02:46:42
CAPACITY. I COULD BE OFF BY A COUPLE OF
02:46:43
NUMBERS BUT IN THAT VICINITY OF 1280 AND AT 1280 THEY WOULD
02:46:48
HAVE BEEN THEY WOULD HAVE TRIGGERED THAT 80% WHICH WOULD
02:46:53
HAVE TRIGGERED THE FACILITIES EVALUATION.
02:46:56
>> AND I THINK THE SHERIFF'S REPORT INDICATED THAT HE WAS
02:47:00
GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FACILITIES ASSESSMENT AGAIN
02:47:05
THAT MAYBE THERE'S A FUNDING ISSUE THERE BUT SO THAT'S
02:47:11
BASICALLY WHERE WE WERE ON THE FIVE 11.2 AND 511 .35 11.2.
02:47:18
THE CROWDING COMMITTEE IS AT ONE POINT I THINK IT TALKS
02:47:22
ABOUT CALL A MEETING AND THEN IT TALKS MORE FORMALLY.
02:47:25
BUT OUR THINKING WHEN WE LOOKED AT 511 WAS BOY, THERE'S A LOT
02:47:28
OF SILOS AROUND THIS AND WOULDN'T IT BE A GREAT
02:47:32
THING IF WE COULD USE THIS RULE TO GET PEOPLE IN A ROOM AND PUT
02:47:39
THEIR RESPECTIVE INTERESTS ON THE TABLE?
02:47:40
BECAUSE I JOKE THE SHERIFFS RUNNING A HOTEL WHERE YOU CAN'T
02:47:44
TURN ANYBODY AWAY AND YOU'VE GOT A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER
02:47:48
INTERESTS IN THE CITY THAT THE DRAW ON AND THE CREATE SOME OF
02:47:51
THE OBLIGATIONS IF NOT BURDENS THAT THEY LABOR WITH AND YET IT
02:47:55
SEEMS VERY HARD TO GET PEOPLE TO TALK ABOUT THE JAIL.
02:47:59
IT DOES NOT SEEM TO BE A POPULAR TOPIC I WILL TELL YOU
02:48:02
AFTER SPENDING A YEAR ON IT SO THANK YOU SO MUCH AGAIN FOR
02:48:06
SPENDING A WHOLE YEAR ON IT. WHAT DO YOU THINK ARE THE
02:48:10
BIGGEST CAPITAL NEEDS IN ORDER TO ADEQUATELY SERVE THE
02:48:13
POPULATION COMING INTO THE JAILS?
02:48:14
>> THE FIRST THING IS TO DO SOMETHING WITH COUNTY JAIL ONCE
02:48:17
AND HAVE A WAY FOR PEOPLE TO GET FROM COUNTY JAIL ONE INTO
02:48:24
THE COURTROOMS AND HAVE SOME KIND OF HOLDING AREA RIGHT NOW.
02:48:27
WHEN WE WERE FINISHED OUR INVESTIGATION WE WERE TOLD THAT
02:48:31
THE MAKING DO ANSWER WAS TO USE THE GYM IN COUNTY JAIL TO
02:48:36
COUNTY JAIL TO HOUSES ALL OF THE WOMEN IN THE SYSTEM AND IT
02:48:40
HOUSES TRANSGENDER INMATES. COUNTY JAIL TWO DOES NOT HAVE
02:48:44
ITS OWN OUTDOOR SPACE AND THE GYM IS VERY IMPORTANT TO COUNTY
02:48:48
JAIL TO AS IT IS EVERYWHERE IN THE SYSTEM.
02:48:49
BUT THAT JAIL WAS BEING USED ON TO OUR UNDERSTANDING ON WEEKDAY
02:48:53
MORNINGS THROUGH 11 A.M. AND THUS WAS UNAVAILABLE TO
02:48:56
PEOPLE IN THE JAIL AT THAT POINT IN TIME.
02:49:00
>> SO WE THINK THAT THAT IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE FIX AND THAT
02:49:03
SOMETHING HAS TO BE FIGURED OUT FOR HOW THIS COURT HOLDING
02:49:07
AND BUSING IS GOING TO WORK. >> IT ALSO TAKES SPACE AWAY
02:49:11
FROM THE TRIAGE NURSES WHO ARE TRYING TO ASCERTAIN WHETHER THE
02:49:14
PEOPLE COMING IN ARE WELL ENOUGH TO BE THERE, WHETHER
02:49:15
THEY NEED IMMEDIATE DETOX OR WITHDRAWAL HELP WHERE WHAT'S
02:49:22
GOING ON THERE. SO THERE REALLY SHOULD BE SOME
02:49:25
BETTER WAY OF DELINEATING THE SPACE WITH THE THE TRIAGE
02:49:29
NURSES. I UNDERSTAND THERE ARE
02:49:30
DIFFICULTIES KEEPING MEN AND WOMEN SEPARATE IN INTAKE
02:49:33
BUT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO TAKE THAT SERIOUSLY BEFORE SOMETHING BAD
02:49:38
HAPPENS. C.J THREE THERE WERE SOME PLANS
02:49:43
TO DO WORK AND I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE IT STANDS BUT WE
02:49:48
UNDERSTOOD THAT SOME OF THE PUBLIC HEALTH PEOPLE DID NOT
02:49:52
FEEL THAT THERE WAS ADEQUATE SPACE TO DO WHAT THEY NEEDED TO
02:49:56
DO IN THERE AND JUST GENERALLY THAT THERE'S A LACK OF PRIVACY
02:50:00
FOR MEETING BETWEEN PUBLIC HEALTH PERSONNEL AND INMATES AT
02:50:07
THE JAIL. I THINK THOSE ARE PROBLEMS
02:50:11
AND JUST GENERAL MAINTENANCE. >> WE WERE THERE ON A DAY WHERE
02:50:12
THERE OH 3 OR 4 HEATERS ARE DOWN, DISHWASHERS BLOWN OUT THE
02:50:16
WASHERS BLOWN OUT. >> THAT'S YOU HAVE TO PLAY WITH
02:50:22
PEOPLE WHO ARE IN A JAIL. >> IT'S IT'S NOT LIKE YOU'RE
02:50:26
TRYING TO RUN A LUXURY HOTEL. THESE ARE BASIC THINGS.
02:50:29
SO I THINK THAT ALL NEEDS TO BE AUDIT AND THEN COUNTY JAIL TOO.
02:50:34
I'M NOT GOING TO DIVE INTO THAT BECAUSE I KNOW THAT IT'S A
02:50:38
SUBJECT OF LITIGATION IN THE GRAND JURY AMONG OTHER THINGS,
02:50:41
IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE TAKING A POSITION ON DISPUTES WITH
02:50:44
INDIVIDUALS BUT IT'S ALSO A CITY OBLIGATION AND IT'S JUST
02:50:49
COUNTY JAIL TOO WAS BUILT AS A WORK FURLOUGH FACILITY.
02:50:52
IT WAS NOT BUILT AS A MAXIMUM SECURITY JAIL.
02:50:56
IT HAS MAXIMUM SECURITY PEOPLE IN IT.
02:51:00
IT IT JUST WASN'T BUILT FOR WHAT IT IS AND IT'S
02:51:04
DETERIORATED THE SAME LITTLE DESCRIPTIONS OF WHAT NEEDS TO
02:51:08
HAPPEN KEEPS SHOWING UP IN CAPITAL REPORTS RIGHT NOW
02:51:12
WORK ON COUNTY JAIL TOO HAS BEEN DEFERRED TO THE END OF THE
02:51:15
TEN YEAR PERIOD OF THE CURRENT PLAN.
02:51:16
SO I THINK IT'S LISTED AS DEFERRED IN THE LAST YEAR.
02:51:22
>> IT'S WAY OVERDUE ROOFING THROUGHOUT THE PLACE IS
02:51:26
IN DISREPAIR BUT I THINK COUNTY JAIL TWO AND COUNTY JAIL ONE
02:51:30
WOULD IF I WERE MAKING THE PRIORITY PLAN WOULD BE THE TOP
02:51:34
OF THE LIST. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
02:51:40
WHAT WOULD AN UP TO DATE RECORDS KEEPING SYSTEM ALLOW
02:51:42
THE SHERIFF'S OFFICE TO DO THAT THEY CAN'T DO ALREADY SO MANY
02:51:52
THINGS THAT THEY CAN'T DO. >> A LOT OF THINGS ARE JUST
02:51:55
REALLY SLOW. THEY HAVE PEOPLE WORKING ON
02:51:56
OVERTIME REGULARLY FILING PAPER REPORTS AND GOING THROUGH OLD
02:52:00
BOXES OF PAPER REPORTS TO GET OFF OF THAT PAPER SYSTEM.
02:52:06
IT WOULD REDUCE THE OVERTIME DEPENDANCE AND ALLOW MONEY FOR
02:52:09
OTHER THINGS IT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO KNOW ARE WE REALLY BUMPING
02:52:13
AGAINST OUR CAPACITY OR DO WE HAVE YOU KNOW, FIVE, EIGHT, 10%
02:52:20
OR WHATEVER IN HERE THAT'S OUR I'LL JUST CALL IT OUR
02:52:23
TRANSITIONAL POOR PEOPLE WHO COME IN AND GET BOOKED AND GO
02:52:25
OUT BUT NEVER SEE A BED SO YOU DON'T REALLY KNOW I DON'T KNOW
02:52:31
AS A SOMEBODY WHO'S RELATIVELY FAMILIAR WITH THE PUBLIC
02:52:35
INFORMATION HOW YOU FIGURE OUT HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY
02:52:38
IN NEED OF BEDS AND MAYBE THE 1918 TO 2018 REPORT THAT WE
02:52:42
NEVER SAW AND WE'RE TOLD THAT MOST OF THE INFORMATION IT WAS
02:52:46
UNAVAILABLE BUT YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S A CAPACITY TO GET
02:52:50
THINGS BUT THE CAPACITY TO GET THE DATA REQUIRES A PERSON TO
02:52:54
EXTRACT IT AND PUT IT IN REPORTS AND THE FACT THAT IT
02:52:57
EXISTS SOMEWHERE IN SOME KAREN IS NOT TRANSPARENCY.
02:53:04
>> WE DO NOT HAVE TRANSPARENCY IN THE JAIL SYSTEM.
02:53:05
THE POLICE DO GIVE YOU A DIFFERENT AND THEY COMPLAIN
02:53:09
INCESSANTLY ABOUT THEIR SYSTEM BUT THEY HAVE A STAFF REPORT
02:53:15
THAT GIVES 95 DIFFERENT DATA POINTS.
02:53:16
THEY HAVE DATA SETS ON INCIDENTS, THEY HAVE DATA SETS
02:53:20
AND ALL KINDS OF THINGS AND IT'S JUST WHAT THE SHERIFF
02:53:23
HAS ON S.F. DATA IS BASICALLY BOOKING DATA SO YOU CAN COUNT
02:53:27
YOU CAN LOOK AT THAT AND YOU CAN DETERMINE HOW MANY PEOPLE
02:53:28
WERE BOOKED IN A GIVEN MONTH STARTING IN 2019 AND YOU CAN
02:53:32
GET THE DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION ON THEM IN BROAD CATEGORIES THE
02:53:36
CATEGORIES ARE MALE FEMALE AGE I THINK RACE AND ETHNICITY BUT
02:53:42
BUT THAT'S IT AND THAT'S THAT'S NOT REALLY OKAY RIGHT NOW.
02:53:47
IT'S NOT WHERE THE WORLD IS AND I THINK PARTICULARLY AS WE
02:53:50
A I DON'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER OFF MY TOP OF MY HEAD BUT IT'S
02:53:56
NORTH OF 40% OF CUSTODIAL ARRESTS IN THE CITY COME
02:53:58
THROUGH FROM THE TENDERLOIN AND SELMA.
02:54:01
MOST OF THE 63 CORRIDOR I DON'T KNOW THE MISSION NUMBERS RIGHT
02:54:06
NOW BECAUSE THE DATA SET GOES BACK SLOW BUT THEIR POLICY
02:54:12
DECISIONS THAT NEEDS TO BE MADE AND THE PEOPLE MAKING THOSE
02:54:14
DECISIONS SHOULD BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING AT
02:54:16
THE JAIL AND PARTICULARLY WITH THIS POPULATION THAT COMES
02:54:18
AND GOES QUICKLY. >> YEAH.
02:54:23
THANK YOU. SECOND LAST QUESTION WHAT IS
02:54:26
THE HANDOFF BETWEEN US WITH PD AND SHERIFF LIKE IN AN ARREST A
02:54:28
BOOKING PROCEDURE THE ARRESTING OFFICER BRINGS THE PERSON TO
02:54:33
THE COUNTY JAIL. THERE'S SOMETHING THAT THEY
02:54:36
CALL THE SALLY PORT WHERE YOU GO IN THEY WAIT UNTIL IT'S
02:54:39
SAFE. YOU GO INSIDE THE BIGGEST THING
02:54:43
THERE IS THE PERSON'S HEALTH CONDITION AND IT'S VERY PUBLIC
02:54:47
THAT THERE'S A SORT OF ONGOING TENSION THERE WHERE THE
02:54:52
ARRESTING OFFICER WANTS TO LEAVE AND GO BACK TO WHAT THEY
02:54:55
WERE DOING AND THE JAIL IS SAYING WELL, IF THIS PERSON
02:54:58
NEEDS TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL, WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO TAKE THEM
02:55:00
TO THE HOSPITAL IF THEY CAN'T GO YOU THE ARRESTING OFFICER
02:55:03
ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM UNTIL WE ACCEPT CUSTODY WE WILL NOT
02:55:07
ACCEPT CUSTODY UNTIL WE HAVE THIS TRIAGE EXAMINATION AFTER
02:55:10
THAT IT GOES I THINK THAT THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION AT ONE
02:55:17
POINT ABOUT HAVING THE SPECIFIC TIMES WHEN DIFFERENT POLICE
02:55:21
STATIONS COULD BRING PEOPLE DOWN SO THAT THEY COULD I DON'T
02:55:25
KNOW, STREAMLINE THE BOOKING PROCESS.
02:55:28
I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF THAT HAPPENED.
02:55:29
I KNOW THAT THERE THERE'S SOME EFFORTS TO LOOK AT IT BUT
02:55:32
THAT'S I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
02:55:35
>> YES, DEFINITELY PROVIDES MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE.
02:55:39
>> SURE OKAY. THANK YOU.
02:55:39
THANK YOU. SORRY ONE LAST QUESTION.
02:55:43
SORRY ONE LAST ONE. >> WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE
02:55:46
DEPARTMENT'S RESPONSE TO YOUR RECOMMENDATION ABOUT CAPITAL
02:55:48
PLANNING? >> THERE WAS A RESPONSE THAT
02:55:56
THEY YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SHERIFF OR THE CITY EITHER BOTH
02:56:03
. I THINK THE SHERIFF'S RESPONSE
02:56:04
WAS ALSO INCLUDED SEEKING A TITLE IN THE FACILITIES REPORT
02:56:08
AND TALKED ABOUT A REPORT THAT WOULD LOOK AT A LOT OF THINGS.
02:56:13
ONE OF THEM WAS A NEW JAIL WITH BETTER MENTAL HEALTH FACILITIES
02:56:18
AND I KNOW NEW JAIL IS SORT OF RADIOACTIVE IN SAN FRANCISCO
02:56:22
BUT A NEW JAIL OR NEW FACILITY DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO
02:56:26
MEAN MORE CAPACITY. I BELIEVE THAT SAN MATEO IS
02:56:30
ACTUALLY LOOKING AT NEW SMALLER FACILITIES THAT HAVE BETTER
02:56:33
MENTAL HEALTH CAPACITY. SO I THINK THAT LOOKING AT THE
02:56:38
FULL PICTURE IS A GOOD THING. THE CONSOLIDATED REPORT
02:56:46
SUBMITTED BY THE MAYOR'S OFFICE SAID OH, USE THE CAPITAL
02:56:49
PLANNING PROCESS. THAT'S WHAT IT'S THERE FOR BUT
02:56:51
IT'S FAILED THE JAIL. SO IF YOU USE THE FACILITY
02:56:54
PLANNING REPORT AND YOU FED THAT INTO THE JAIL, I THINK
02:57:00
YOU'D BE IN A BETTER PLACE IF THE END OF THE REPORT IF ANY OF
02:57:05
YOU SUFFER FROM INSOMNIA. THERE IS A CHRONOLOGY GOING
02:57:06
BACK TO 2015 AND GOING THROUGH A TIMELINE OF DIFFERENT FUNDING
02:57:12
ISSUES THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE OVER THE LAST TEN YEARS AND YOU
02:57:15
CAN ALSO PULL FROM I THINK WE LOOKED AT THE CAPITAL PLANNING
02:57:23
REPORTS GOING BACK TO 2015 ISH AND WE LOOKED AT ALL THE
02:57:27
REPORTS THAT WENT INTO THE CONTROVERSY OVER THE NEW JAIL
02:57:33
AND I WOULD JUST SAY THAT I DON'T THINK THAT THE CAPITAL
02:57:35
PLANNING PROCESS HAS BEEN SO GOOD FOR THE JAIL ONCE THE NEW
02:57:38
JAIL WAS SHUT DOWN THERE WAS OR YOU KNOW, VOTED AGAINST THERE
02:57:44
WAS DISCUSSION ABOUT HAVING A MENTAL HEALTH FACILITY AS A
02:57:48
BETTER USE OF MONEY BUT THAT DIDN'T GO ANYWHERE AND THEN IT
02:57:53
JUST SORT OF SEEMED LIKE THERE WAS A CAPITAL STARVATION DIET.
02:57:57
>> THERE'S A REFERENCE IN THE MAYOR'S RESPONSE THAT 61
02:58:01
MILLION OR THEREABOUTS THAT HAS BEEN FUNDED TO THE JAIL
02:58:05
RECENTLY BUT $61 MILLION TO PUT IT IN PERSPECTIVE OF WHEN YOU
02:58:09
LOOK AT LIKE OPENING A NEW JAIL IN A BILL IT'S NOT A NEW JAIL
02:58:13
OR BUILDING BUT THE BUILDING IS BASICALLY BEEN CLOSED
02:58:16
AND HASN'T HOUSED PEOPLE FOR TEN PLUS 15 YEARS AND IT WAS
02:58:20
JUST USED FOR TRAINING. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT
02:58:24
HAD TO HAPPEN THERE. IT WAS A NEW SECURITY SYSTEM.
02:58:26
THEY HAVE THIS BIG PROBLEM AT THE JAILS THAT THEY DON'T HAVE
02:58:28
ENOUGH PLUMBERS AND THINGS GET CAUGHT IN THE PLUMBING AND IT'S
02:58:34
IT SOUNDS SORT OF FUNNY AND CUTE BUT IT'S NOT IT'S A
02:58:35
REALLY SERIOUS PROBLEM. AND SO THEY HAD TO DEAL WITH
02:58:39
THINGS LIKE THAT. THEY HAD TO DEAL WITH THINGS
02:58:41
LIKE BOILERS PEOPLE WHO THERE THEY GET SHOWERS.
02:58:44
>> THE SHOWERS SHOULD HAVE HOT WATER.
02:58:46
>> SO 61 MILLION OVER THE TEN YEARS OR SO IT'S KIND OF A DROP
02:58:53
IN THE BUCKET. >> YOU HAVE TO PAY A LOT OF
02:58:57
THINGS LIKE THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN AND THEN THERE WAS A REFERENCE
02:58:59
TO $367 MILLION WHEN YOU LOOK IN THE PLAN AND THE LINE ITEM
02:59:04
FOR IT, IT'S A LINE ITEM FOR RELOCATION IN THE WHEN THE FALL
02:59:11
OF JUSTICE IS FINALLY DONE AND IT LISTS A NUMBER OF
02:59:12
ENTITIES LIKE THAT THE DEA HAS TO COME MOVE BACK FROM THEIR
02:59:16
RENTED SPACE, VARIOUS THINGS HAVE TO HAPPEN.
02:59:19
IT MENTIONED THAT THE SHERIFF'S WARRANTS AND RECORDS OPERATION
02:59:23
WOULD HAVE TO BE RELOCATED BUT THERE IS NOTHING IN IT ABOUT
02:59:27
ANY FUNDING FOR ANYTHING GOING ON IN ANY OF THE BUILDINGS.
02:59:28
IT WAS JUST IF SOMEDAY IT COMES TOGETHER AND THE NEW THE NEW
02:59:34
COURTHOUSE BUILDING GETS BUILT AND MY INFORMED VIEW WOULD BE
02:59:38
THAT IT WOULD BE IN THE 2030S THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO
02:59:40
THESE THINGS BUT IT'S 2026 SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN ANSWER TO
02:59:43
WHAT'S HAPPENING TODAY AND THE JAIL ITEMS JUST SEEM TO SHOW UP
02:59:47
OVER AND OVER AS EMERGING MEANING YOU KNOW SOMEDAY WHEN
02:59:51
WE THINK ABOUT IT WE'LL THINK ABOUT WHETHER WE EVEN MIGHT
02:59:55
WANT TO PUT THIS IN DEFERRED. BUT IT'S NOT A PLAN.
02:59:58
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH ALL MY QUESTIONS.
03:00:02
>> APPRECIATE IT. MISHIN THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR
03:00:03
WORK AND NOW WE WILL HEAR FROM SHERIFF MIYAMOTO WHO HAS BEEN
03:00:10
HERE TO PRESENT AND ALSO THANK YOU JUST ISN'T SURE OF JOHN
03:00:13
RAMIREZ FOR BEING AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.
03:00:17
>> THANK YOU SHERIFF. ME MATTER.
03:00:20
GOOD AFTERNOON AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE
03:00:23
. I JUST WANT TO THIS IS
03:00:24
SPONTANEOUS BUT I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT THE CIVIL GRAND
03:00:28
JURY HAS DONE. WE ALWAYS HAVE THE ABILITY TO
03:00:32
INTERACT WITH THEM. LET PEOPLE SEE WHAT IS GOING
03:00:35
ON. TRANSPARENCY COMES IN TWO
03:00:36
FORMS. THERE'S TWO LEVELS.
03:00:38
ONE IS THE PROCESS ITSELF AND THE REFLECTION BY THE CIVIL
03:00:40
GRAND JURY ON THE CHALLENGES THAT WE HAVE WITH DATA
03:00:43
COLLECTION AND SHARING THAT DATA WITH OTHER PEOPLE ARE
03:00:46
ABSOLUTELY SPOT ON. AND THE SECOND LEVEL OF
03:00:51
TRANSPARENCY IN TERMS OF PEOPLE AND CONDITIONS OF CONFINEMENT
03:00:53
AND CONDITIONS IN OUR JAILS AND OUR SYSTEMS ARE ALSO
03:00:55
IMPORTANT TO BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT AND I APPRECIATE THAT
03:00:58
THIS WAS A VERY THOROUGH COMPREHENSIVE REPORT.
03:01:01
I APPRECIATE THE REALISTIC REPRESENTATION NOT JUST IN THE
03:01:06
REPORT BUT BY THE TESTIMONY GIVEN HERE TODAY WHICH IS
03:01:10
BASICALLY MY LIVED EXPERIENCE NOT JUST AS THE SHERIFF BUT AS
03:01:14
SOMEBODY WHO HAS GROWN UP IN THE SYSTEM AND WORKED IN THE
03:01:17
SHERIFF'S OFFICE FOR THE PAST 30 YEARS.
03:01:18
SO I APPRECIATE THAT LEVEL OF TRANSPARENCY AND REALISM AS WE
03:01:24
MOVE FORWARD WITH THE QUESTIONS, I HOPE TO PAINT A
03:01:25
MORE COMPREHENSIVE PICTURE FOR YOU AND THE MEMBERS OF THE
03:01:29
COMMITTEE. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH
03:01:32
COLLEAGUES. ANY QUESTIONS OR REMARKS FOR
03:01:33
THE SHERIFF'S NOT I CAN GO FORWARD WITH MINE BASED ON YOUR
03:01:41
INTERPRETATION OF THE MANUAL HAVE THE TRIGGERS FOR A CROWD
03:01:44
AND COMMITTEE BEEN REACHED BASED ON MY INTERPRETATION NO.
03:01:49
AS REFLECTED BY CIVIL GRAND JURIES ANSWERS ON PAPER WERE
03:01:55
ASKED THAT WE INITIATE ON THE CROWDING COMMITTEE WHEN THE
03:01:56
NUMBER OF PERSONS EXCEEDS THE APPROVED CAPACITY OF A FACILITY
03:02:00
AS YOU MENTIONED THE 80% AND IT FLUCTUATES BECAUSE IT'S NOT OUR
03:02:06
OVERALL POPULATION. IT'S BASED ON EACH JAIL WE'VE
03:02:10
HAD FLUCTUATIONS WHERE THEY'VE GONE UP AND DOWN.
03:02:13
ONE THING TO NOTE IS THE ACTUAL CROWDING COMMITTEE COMPOSITION.
03:02:16
IT'S THE LEADERSHIP OF MANY OF OUR JUSTICE PARTNERS AND WE
03:02:21
HAVE ONGOING MEETINGS AND DISCUSSIONS IN DIFFERENT
03:02:25
FORUMS WHICH ARE DIRECTLY RELATED TO POLICYMAKING
03:02:29
DECISIONS ON WHETHER THAT WILL DIRECTLY AFFECT JAIL
03:02:32
POPULATION. SO THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT
03:02:35
INVOLVES A DIRECT REVIEW OF THE JAIL POPULATION BUT IT IS
03:02:40
SOMETHING THAT HAS EFFECTS ON OUR POPULATION BECAUSE WE HAVE
03:02:44
THESE ONGOING MEETINGS AND WE HAVE INTERACTIONS IN THE
03:02:47
JUSTICE SYSTEM DIRECTLY RELATED TO THAT THE CURRENT NUMBERS
03:02:54
RIGHT NOW JUST TO GIVE AN IDEA OF HOW MUCH THESE FLUCTUATE
03:02:58
AND I KNOW IN THE REPORT IT MENTIONED THAT WE AREN'T JUST
03:03:02
LOOKING AT WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW BUT IT'S ALSO A
03:03:04
REFLECTION ON WHAT WE'VE LOOKED AT IN THE PAST.
03:03:07
BUT THIS MORNING AT C.J. TWO WHERE AT 67% CAPACITY C.J. 372%
03:03:12
AND THE ANNEX WHICH IS IN TERMS OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THESE
03:03:16
NUMBERS SUPERVISOR THE ANNEX WOULD BE CONSIDERED A SEPARATE
03:03:19
ENTITY AND THAT'S AT 49% CAPACITY SO IT'S CHALLENGING
03:03:26
FOR US TO SPIN UP THE CROWDING COMMITTEE WHEN THEY AREN'T
03:03:30
CONSISTENT NUMBERS THROUGHOUT THE COURSE OF THE YEAR.
03:03:34
>> THANK YOU. AND WHAT ABOUT A JAIL NEEDS
03:03:37
ASSESSMENT? AS I UNDERSTAND THE THRESHOLD
03:03:38
FOR THAT IS WHEN THE POPULATION OF AT LEAST ONE OF THE JAILS
03:03:42
WELL SORRY THE POPULATION OF AT LEAST ONE OF THE JAILS HAS
03:03:46
REGULARLY EXCEEDED 80%. >> DOES THAT TRIGGER A JAIL
03:03:48
NEEDS ASSESSMENT? YES, WE DO TRACK TRACE JAIL
03:03:52
POPULATION TRENDS IN A QUARTERLY REPORT THAT WE
03:03:56
PROVIDE THROUGH OUR ARE ONE ANALYST THAT'S DEDICATED TO
03:03:59
THAT. AND AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER,
03:04:03
WE ARE LOOKING TO HAVING A JAIL NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
03:04:07
THE LAST ONE AS WAS MENTIONED WAS OUR CLASSIFICATIONS REVIEW
03:04:10
BACK IN 20 I THINK IT WAS 2015 OR 16 AND WE ARE LOOKING TO DO
03:04:17
THAT AS A PART OF OUR ONGOING PROCESS RIGHT NOW IN RESPONSE
03:04:18
TO A CIVIL GRAND JURY'S INQUIRIES AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
03:04:21
SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE A JAIL NEEDS ASSESSMENT.
03:04:25
>> YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
03:04:26
I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT. AND IT'S ONE THING FOR PEOPLE
03:04:31
TO BE ABLE TO REQUEST ASSISTANCE WITH LINKAGE TO
03:04:33
SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER TREATMENT UPON EXITING THE JAIL
03:04:36
SYSTEM. IT'S ANOTHER THING TO BE
03:04:40
INFORMED OF THE OPTION ARE PEOPLE IN FORM AND ABOUT
03:04:43
OPTIONS FOR CAB RIDES TO THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ACCESS CENTER
03:04:47
OR TO A 24 HOUR SOBERING CENTER?
03:04:48
>> YES, OUR INTEREST IS IN MAKING SURE PEOPLE DON'T
03:04:52
RETURN TO JAIL. WE HAVE AN INTEREST IN THAT SO
03:04:55
OUR STAFF AND OUR DISCHARGE PLANNING PROCEDURES ALL HAVE
03:04:58
COMPONENTS IN IT WHERE WE ENCOURAGE INDIVIDUALS TO
03:05:02
PARTAKE IN THE SERVICES WHEN THEY ARE DOING THEIR DISCHARGE
03:05:03
PLANNING AND BEING RELEASED. I THINK ONE OF THE QUESTIONS
03:05:07
WAS ABOUT CAB RIDES AND SO I DO HAVE A NUMBER ON 2020 FIVES WE
03:05:15
HAD 762 INDIVIDUALS WHO ACTUALLY REDEEMED THE CAB RIDES
03:05:17
THAT ARE OFFERED WHEN PEOPLE ARE RELEASED.
03:05:19
WE KNOW THAT THAT'S LESS THAN THE NUMBER OF OF CAB RIDES
03:05:26
OFFERED THAT ARE NOT USED BUT WE DON'T HAVE A WAY OF REALLY
03:05:31
SEEING THOSE NUMBERS. WE ONLY KNOW WHEN THEY ARE
03:05:34
REDEEMED AND THAT WAS 762 LAST YEAR.
03:05:37
THAT'S AN ONGOING NUMBER. I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS SO FAR
03:05:40
FOR THIS YEAR AND THOSE CAB RIDES ARE ONLY TWO DEPARTURES
03:05:44
BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ACTIVE CENTER TO A 24 HOUR SOBERING CENTER.
03:05:47
>> THAT'S WHAT WE DON'T TRACK. WE DON'T TRACK THE DESTINATION
03:05:51
. >> WE JUST KNOW THAT THEY'VE
03:05:52
REDEEMED THOSE VOUCHERS. ARE PEOPLE BROUGHT TO THE RESET
03:05:55
CENTER FROM JAIL? >> I JUST NOTICE THAT THE
03:05:59
OFFICE MENTIONED THE RESET CENTER AND ITS RESPONSE.
03:06:02
YES. SO THE RESET CENTER IS ACTUALLY
03:06:03
DESIGNED TO TAKE IN PEOPLE WHO ARE TO DIVERT PEOPLE FROM GOING
03:06:06
TO JAIL. SO WHEN PEOPLE SUBSEQUENT TO AN
03:06:09
ARREST ON BEING DRUNK IN PUBLIC OR INTOXICATED OR UNDER THE
03:06:13
INFLUENCE IN PUBLIC, THAT'S THE TRIGGER FOR AN INDIVIDUAL GOT
03:06:14
TO RESET CENTER AS OPPOSED TO JAIL SO THEY DON'T ACTUALLY GO
03:06:20
TO JAIL FROM THE RESET CENTER. THEY ACTUALLY GO TO THE RESET
03:06:21
CENTER SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO GO TO JAIL.
03:06:24
>> UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU.
03:06:25
THE OFFICE AND ITS RESPONSE SET A NEW JAMES REPLACEMENT PROJECT
03:06:29
ALREADY HAS AN EXISTING PROJECT PLAN AND ACCORDING TO THE JURY
03:06:33
WE HEARD TODAY THE SYSTEM IS SET TO GO LIVE IN SEPTEMBER NOW
03:06:36
OF THIS YEAR WHEN IS THE NEW JAMES REPLACEMENT GOING LIVE?
03:06:43
SO RIGHT NOW WE AREN'T GOING TO HIT THAT TARGET DATE THAT WAS
03:06:45
MENTIONED EARLIER. I CAN GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON
03:06:48
EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN NOW AND DECEMBER.
03:06:51
WE ARE GOING THROUGH WHAT WE CALL OUR DATA VALIDATION
03:06:54
ACTIVITY WORK FOR THIS THAT IS ON SCHEDULE AND ACTUALLY MOVING
03:06:58
A LITTLE BIT AHEAD OF SCHEDULE AT THE COMPLETION OF THE DATA
03:07:02
VALIDATION ACTIVITY WE'RE MOVING INTO THE USER ACCEPTANCE
03:07:03
TESTING WHICH IS BASICALLY THE HANDS ON TESTING IN JANUARY OF
03:07:08
2027 WE HAVE A POSSIBLE GO LIVE DATE OF APRIL AND MAY 2027 BUT
03:07:12
A REALISTIC ONE IF THERE ARE ANY HICCUPS TO THIS WOULD BE AN
03:07:17
END DATE OF JULY 2027. >> UNDERSTOOD.
03:07:19
THANK YOU. >> THE OFFICE SAID IN ITS
03:07:23
RESPONSE THERE'S A DISCHARGE PLANNING PROGRAM LOCATED
03:07:26
OUTSIDE OF J. NUMBER ONE WHICH IS STAFFED
03:07:27
MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY FROM 2 P.M. 10 P.M. WHICH PROVIDES
03:07:31
TRANSITION PLANNING AND LINKEDIN'S SERVICES.
03:07:34
>> WHAT DO THOSE ENTAIL? >> THE STAFF THAT ARE PART OF
03:07:37
OUR DISCHARGE PLANNING GROUP PROVIDE LINKAGE SERVICES TO
03:07:41
PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN SENTENCED OR PLED AND SCHEDULED TO BE
03:07:45
SENTENCED OR RELEASED. THE OFFICE IS ACTUALLY RIGHT
03:07:49
OUTSIDE THE DOORS OF THE RELEASE STORES.
03:07:50
WHEN PEOPLE LEAVE OUR JAIL WE HAVE INTEGRATED OUR DISCHARGE
03:07:55
PLANNING WITH THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING WITH OUR
03:07:59
COUNTY JUSTICE INVOLVED INITIATIVE WHERE WE'VE BEEN
03:08:02
PARTNERED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC HEALTH USING THE
03:08:06
MEDICARE FUNDED SERVICES TO BEGIN UP TO 90 DAYS OF
03:08:10
PRERELEASE. WE'VE TAKEN THAT AND INTEGRATED
03:08:13
THAT AS A PART OF OUR DISCHARGE PLANNING PROCESS WHICH IS
03:08:17
HELPING US TO TRANSITION PEOPLE MORE EFFECTIVELY INTO THE
03:08:19
COMMUNITY. >> DOES THAT INCLUDE MOU D
03:08:24
UPTAKE BUPRENORPHINE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE ADDICTED TO OPIOIDS?
03:08:31
>> DO YOU KNOW OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD?
03:08:33
IT'S MY BELIEF THAT PART OF THE PLAN AND THE INTEGRATION OF OUR
03:08:39
DISCHARGE PLANNING PROCESS AND INCLUSION WITH DEPARTMENT
03:08:42
OF PUBLIC HEALTH AND KALEEM WOULD INCLUDE SUPPORT THROUGH
03:08:46
MOU. >> OKAY.
03:08:47
THANK YOU. >> RELATEDLY, THE CIVIL GRAND
03:08:51
JURY REPORT SAYS THAT 1 IN 4 INCARCERATED PEOPLE ARE NOW
03:08:56
RELEASED BETWEEN 11 P.M. AND 6 A.M. WHEN SERVICES ARE CLOSED
03:08:58
NEAR THE SOMA TENDERLOIN DRUG MARKETS HEIGHTENING RELAPSE
03:09:01
RISK AND ALSO JUST LEADING TO DANGER FOR VULNERABLE FOLKS
03:09:05
COMING OUT. HOW CAN WE END THIS PRACTICE?
03:09:09
CAN YOUR DEPUTIES AND THE COURT STAFF ENSURE RELEASES HAPPEN
03:09:13
BEFORE 9 P.M.? >> THE CHALLENGE COMES FROM THE
03:09:17
SCOURGE RULE THAT THE COURTS HAVE AND OUR INABILITY TO
03:09:24
RECEIVE ANY INFORMATION EARLIER THAN 5 P.M. WHEN THE COURTS
03:09:28
ACTUALLY CLOSED DOWN. SO WHEN WE HAVE LATE RELEASES
03:09:32
OR IN THE AFTERNOON WHEN THERE ARE COURT APPEARANCES
03:09:33
AND RELEASES IN THE AFTERNOON ARRAIGNMENTS I BELIEVE WE'RE
03:09:36
DONE IN THE AFTERNOONS AS WELL AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE
03:09:40
RELEASED UPON ARRAIGNMENT. WE HAVE A CHALLENGE OF MAKING
03:09:43
SURE THAT THE ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESS TO RELEASE SOMEBODY IS
03:09:48
DONE QUICKLY AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER.
03:09:51
OUR SYSTEM IS ANTIQUATED TO SAY THE LEAST AND THE AREAS
03:09:56
IN WHICH WE ACTUALLY HAVE DONE BETTER WITH PROCESSING
03:09:59
INFORMATION AND DATA WE HAVE TO SHARE SYSTEMS WITH THE CRIMINAL
03:10:04
JUSTICE PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE SPECIFICALLY THE COURTS AND MY
03:10:07
LIVED EXPERIENCE WITH THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE
03:10:12
IN MAKING SURE WE HAVE ONE SYSTEM.
03:10:15
PRIOR TO THIS IT WAS THE JUSTICE SYSTEM JUSTICE WHICH WE
03:10:19
WERE TRYING TO INTEGRATE ALL OF OUR DATA AND SYSTEMS TO
03:10:26
STREAMLINE PROCESSES SUCH AS THIS AND ALTHOUGH WE'VE MADE
03:10:30
ADVANCES IT HASN'T GOTTEN TO THE POINT OF US BEING ABLE TO
03:10:33
MOVE ANY QUICKER THAN WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
03:10:35
I DON'T WANT TO RELEASE PEOPLE INTO THE NIGHT.
03:10:38
WE'VE HAD THIS CHALLENGE BEFORE WHAT WE'VE ASKED FOR PROVIDED
03:10:41
SERVICES TO EXTEND THEIR HOURS BEYOND BUSINESS HOURS
03:10:45
AND DURING THE COURSE OF THE DAY WE DO RELEASE 75% OF OUR
03:10:48
INDIVIDUALS OUT INTO THOSE SERVICES WHICH IS HELPFUL BUT
03:10:52
WE HAVE SYSTEMS IN PLACE SUPERVISOR LIKE THE ABILITY FOR
03:10:57
PEOPLE IF THEY'RE BEING RELEASED LATE TO ACTUALLY STAY
03:10:58
OVERNIGHT IF THEY DON'T HAVE A PLACE TO GO.
03:11:02
IT'S NOT MEANT TO KEEP THEM IN CUSTODY BUT IT'S MEANT TO
03:11:05
MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE SOMEWHERE TO STAY THAT'S SAFE
03:11:08
UNTIL THEY GET OUT THE NEXT MORNING.
03:11:09
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF CONTROL OVER WHEN
03:11:13
WE GET THE INFORMATION FROM THE COURTS TO BE IN THE PROCESS.
03:11:14
>> THANK YOU. CAN YOU WALK US THROUGH THE
03:11:17
CAPITAL BUDGET? YOU INCLUDED IN YOUR RESPONSE
03:11:20
TO F SEVEN? CERTAINLY.
03:11:24
LET ME ACTUALLY GET THE RESPONSE.
03:11:35
>> AND WHEN YOU SAY WORK THROUGH I BELIEVE YOU'RE
03:11:39
REFERRING TO THE CHART THAT'S IN THE RESPONSE.
03:11:43
YES. AND THIS IS IN REFERENCE TO OUR
03:11:44
CAPITAL. YES.
03:11:46
>> PLANS. OKAY.
03:11:57
I WILL SAY THIS AS AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER BY CIVIL
03:11:58
GRAND JURY, YOU CAN SEE THE MAJORITY OF OUR CAPITAL
03:12:02
PLANNING CENTERED AROUND SUPPORTING BUILDING UP
03:12:08
AND RENOVATING INFRASTRUCTURE DIRECTLY RELATED TO OUR CUSTODY
03:12:12
OPERATIONS AND TO THE JAIL INFRASTRUCTURE IN PARTICULAR.
03:12:19
THE ONLY TIMES WE'VE ACTUALLY HAD SUCCESS IN GETTING SUPPORT
03:12:20
FOR THESE THINGS WHEN A LOT OF TIMES THEY'VE BEEN DEFERRED
03:12:24
HAVE BEEN WHEN SOMETHING COMPLETELY BREAKS DOWN AND WE
03:12:27
GET AN EMERGENCY ORDER AND RELEASE OF EMERGENCY FUNDS
03:12:31
TO DEAL WITH THAT. THERE HAS BEEN I THINK WHAT WAS
03:12:35
IT EMERGING I BELIEVE OR MERGING OR MERGING PLANS
03:12:39
THROUGH THE YEARS. A MAJORITY OF OUR CAPITAL PLANS
03:12:43
THOUGH ARE SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO JAIL OPERATIONS.
03:12:46
AND AS YOU CAN SEE IF YOU WANT ME TO WALK THROUGH ROADS
03:12:50
AND URBAN FORESTRY AND DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE FACT THAT THE
03:12:57
MAJORITY OF OUR POPULATION IS OUT ON OUR SAN BRUNO COMPLEX
03:13:00
WHICH IS ACRES AND ACRES OF LAND THAT HAVE A NON PAVED
03:13:08
ACCESS ROAD FORESTRY WEEDS, BUSHES AROUND IT WE HAVE A
03:13:13
FENCE LINE AROUND OUR PROPERTY OUT THERE THAT HAS NEVER BEEN
03:13:17
UPGRADED OR FIXED AND I WOULD INVITE ANYBODY WHEN THEY DO A
03:13:21
TOUR OF OUR FACILITIES TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT THAT FENCE
03:13:25
LINE AS WELL WHICH WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING THAT ANYONE WOULD
03:13:29
IMAGINE BE THE FENCE LINE AROUND A JAIL FACILITY, THE
03:13:34
MONITORING SYSTEM, THE JAMBS SYSTEM THAT WAS REFERENCED
03:13:36
EARLIER. YOU KNOW, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT
03:13:39
DMS, IT ALSO INCLUDES OUR MONITORING SYSTEM WHICH IS OUR
03:13:42
CAMERA SYSTEM WHICH WAS ALREADY REFERENCE AS BEING ANTIQUATED
03:13:46
AND OUTDATED. THE WATER HEATERS ARE AN
03:13:47
IMPORTANT INTEGRAL PART OF MAKING SURE WE ARE PROVIDING
03:13:53
HYGIENIC CLEAN ENVIRONMENT FOR OUR POPULATION.
03:13:57
THE INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES THAT REFERENCES SPECIFICALLY
03:14:01
THE INTERNAL CELLS AND HOUSING AREAS AND ANYTHING FROM THE
03:14:09
FLOORING TO THE DOORS TO THE WINDOWS THE REST OF THE LINE
03:14:13
ITEMS ARE BATTERY REPLACEMENT FOR OUR BACKUP GENERATORS.
03:14:21
FIRE LIFE SAFETY FOR OUR FIRE LIFE SAFETY SYSTEMS WHICH ARE
03:14:23
BASICALLY OUR FIRE ALARMS AND OUR SPRINKLER SYSTEMS
03:14:29
ELECTRICAL IS SELF-EXPLANATORY. FIRE MITIGATION IS BASICALLY
03:14:32
CLEARING ALL THE FOLIAGE AND POSSIBLE FUELS FOR FIRES.
03:14:37
WE'RE VERY SENSITIVE TO THAT BECAUSE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO US
03:14:41
IN SAN BRUNO WAS WHERE THE INCIDENT OCCURRED A FEW YEARS
03:14:44
AGO BACK IN 2010 WITH THE AIRLINER CRASHING AND THE
03:14:47
CONCERNS FOR A FIRE OF A LARGER MAGNITUDE ARE ALWAYS ON OUR
03:14:52
MIND. WATER PUMP AND SEWER LINE
03:14:55
REPLACEMENT. I CAN SAY SPECIFICALLY THOSE
03:14:59
INDIVIDUAL ITEMS ARE THINGS THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN FUNDED
03:15:03
FULLY FOR FOR SINCE I WAS A CAPTAIN OUT THERE SINCE WE
03:15:06
OPENED THE ACTUAL FACILITY BACK IN 2011 OR 10 OR 9.
03:15:12
LET'S SEE WE HAVE ONE ONLINE REPLACEMENT SEWAGE GRINDER
03:15:14
REPLACEMENT. ALL OF THOSE ARE RELATED TO THE
03:15:17
WATER SYSTEMS. WE ACTUALLY HAVE A FARM OUT
03:15:19
THERE. I THINK SOME OF YOU ARE
03:15:20
FAMILIAR WITH THAT AND OUR FARM IN INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADE
03:15:23
INCLUDE THE WATERING SYSTEM AS WELL AS THE GREENHOUSE THAT WE
03:15:27
HAVE OUT THERE. AND THEN FOR THE LAST LAST TWO
03:15:34
ITEMS SEVENTH STREET ROOTS AND F H FACT THAT WAS A
03:15:35
REFERENCE TO ACTUALLY BY THE GRAND JURY.
03:15:38
THAT'S THE MONEY THAT WE'VE TRIED TO GET TO FIX THE ROOF
03:15:42
BASICALLY THAT WE HAVE OUT THERE THAT HAS NEVER REALLY
03:15:46
BEEN FIXED. AND OUR ANNEX REMODEL IS WHAT
03:15:50
WE ANTICIPATED AS SOME OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES FOR THE
03:15:53
DORMITORY STYLE ANNEX THAT WE HAVE WHICH IS WHERE WE HAVE OUR
03:16:00
POPULATION WHEN WE ARE OVER THE CAPACITY FOR THE OTHER JAILS.
03:16:05
>> THANK YOU. THAT WAS VERY HELPFUL.
03:16:08
>> THE OTHER STATED THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THESE COMBINED
03:16:12
OPERATIONAL AND INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS IS REFLECTED
03:16:13
IN REASON AND SENT DATA DURING APRIL 2026 THE ANNEX RECORDED
03:16:18
TWO PHYSICAL ALTERCATIONS BETWEEN INCARCERATED PERSONS
03:16:22
DESPITE HOUSING A POPULATION THAT IS SIGNIFICANTLY MORE
03:16:23
COMPLEX THAN THE FACILITY WAS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED TO
03:16:26
ACCOMMODATE. >> I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY IS
03:16:28
THAT AN IMPROVEMENT? WHAT WERE THE REPORTS FROM
03:16:30
OTHER MONTHS? I JUST DIDN'T SEE A COMPARISON
03:16:32
NUMBER BEFORE THOSE PHYSICAL IMPROVEMENTS WERE MADE.
03:16:37
>> SO IT WAS AN IMPROVEMENT IF WE'RE TALKING SPECIFICALLY
03:16:41
ABOUT THE ANNEX. >> YES, I BELIEVE THAT WAS
03:16:45
ACTUALLY THE NUMBER THAT WAS REFERENCED BY THE CIVIL GRAND
03:16:46
JURY, THE 61 MILLION THAT WE REQUESTED FROM THE MAYOR'S
03:16:49
OFFICE TO ACTUALLY BUILD OUT AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD THE
03:16:53
PROPER STAFFING FOR THAT. ONE THING I WANT TO SAY ABOUT
03:16:57
STAFFING TOO, WHICH IS SOMETIMES VERY HARD TO
03:17:00
UNDERSTAND IS KEEPING JAIL SAFE AND SECURE DOESN'T MEAN WE HAVE
03:17:07
TO HAVE A STAFF MEMBER FOR A CERTAIN NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS
03:17:11
BECAUSE EACH HOUSING UNIT HAS A MAXIMUM CAPACITY BUT IT MAY
03:17:15
HAVE LESS THAN THAT IN THE HOUSING UNIT UP TO THE CAPACITY
03:17:19
WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS IN THE HOUSING UNIT WE STILL NEED TO
03:17:23
HAVE A DEPUTY PRESENT IN THE UNIT SO OUR STAFFING LEVELS,
03:17:26
OUR MINIMUM STAFFING LEVELS AREN'T RELIANT UPON THE
03:17:30
POPULATION. WE HAVE MINIMUM STAFFING
03:17:34
PRESCRIBED BY OUR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT WITH OUR
03:17:35
UNIONS AND THEY'RE INTENDED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S ADEQUATE
03:17:42
STAFFING IN REGARDS TO SAFETY WHEN THE COUNT INCREASES.
03:17:46
HAVING THE ABILITY TO RESPOND TO SITUATIONS OBVIOUSLY IS ONE
03:17:50
IN WHICH WOULD BE HELPFUL. BUT AS WAS MENTIONED, WE'RE
03:17:54
SHORT STAFFED I THINK RIGHT NOW OUR CUSTODY DIVISION HAS
03:17:58
IMPROVED. WE'RE AT ABOUT 84% STAFFING BUT
03:18:00
WHEN YOU INCLUDE THAT NUMBER WITH THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO
03:18:05
ARE ON DISABILITY WHO ARE NOT ACTUALLY WORKING, THAT NUMBER
03:18:09
DECREASES DOWN A LITTLE BIT TO ABOUT 7,877%.
03:18:16
THE TWO FIGHTS THAT OCCURRED THAT YOU HAD MENTIONED ARE
03:18:18
FIGHTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED REGARDLESS OF STAFFING LEVELS.
03:18:21
WE DID SEE BECAUSE WE WERE PREPARED FOR AND CONTINUE TO
03:18:29
STAFF THAT FACILITY WITHOUT ASSIGNED STAFF BUT ON OVERTIME
03:18:32
WE'VE SEEN A REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF ALTERCATIONS IN THAT
03:18:36
IN THAT FACILITY. >> OKAY.
03:18:40
>> THANK YOU. WE ARE AT A MOMENT TODAY WHEN
03:18:42
YOU AS YOU MENTIONED, HAVE MORE STAFF NOW THAN IN PREVIOUS
03:18:45
YEARS AND THE JAIL NUMBERS HAVE ACTUALLY GONE DOWN DUE TO THE
03:18:49
CALIFORNIA SUPREME COURT DECISION AND A CIVIL GRAND JURY
03:18:55
REPORT. >> THERE ARE A LOT OF
03:18:56
STATEMENTS ABOUT HOW THE SHERIFF DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH
03:18:57
RESOURCES OR STAFF DUE TO THE LARGE JAIL POPULATION SIZE WITH
03:19:00
THESE LOWERED JAIL INMATE NUMBERS.
03:19:03
DO YOU FEEL THAT YOUR STAFF CAN NOW HELP ENSURE MORE FREQUENT
03:19:07
IN-PERSON FAMILY VISITS IN PERSON PROGRAMING
03:19:11
AND ATTORNEY VISITS? >> I THINK WE'VE IMPROVED
03:19:15
IN OUR IN-PERSON PROGRAMING AREAS.
03:19:18
I KNOW OUR NUMBERS ARE VERY STRONG BOTH AT COUNTY JAIL TWO
03:19:22
AND COUNTY JAIL THREE. WE MAINTAIN PROGRAMS AT BOTH
03:19:26
FACILITIES AND WE HAVE TARGETED POPULATIONS WITHIN OUR OVERALL
03:19:30
POPULATION THAT ARE INVOLVED IN SPECIFIC TYPES OF PROGRAMS.
03:19:34
WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE A CADENCE WHERE WE
03:19:38
CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THOSE PROGRAMS.
03:19:39
ATTORNEY VISITS ARE CHALLENGING FOR US BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE
03:19:45
THE ABILITY TO MANAGE WHEN AN ATTORNEY SHOWS UP.
03:19:50
WE DO KNOW THAT THERE ARE TIMES WHEN THEY DO SHOW UP AND THE
03:19:54
PRIORITY IS GIVEN TO THE ATTORNEYS WHEN THEY DO SHOW UP.
03:19:56
BUT IT TAKES TIME BECAUSE IT ACTUALLY MEANS THAT AN
03:19:59
INDIVIDUAL HAS TO BE ESCORTED FROM THEIR HOUSING UNIT TO THE
03:20:03
VISIT. AND WE'VE TRIED OVER THE YEARS
03:20:06
TO SOMETIMES BRING THE ATTORNEY TO THE INDIVIDUAL THROUGH OUR
03:20:12
INFRASTRUCTURE. BUT THAT STILL IS AN ONGOING
03:20:13
CHALLENGE BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF OUR POPULATION IS AT SAN
03:20:21
BRUNO AND NOT DOWNTOWN AND THE COURTS ARE DOWNTOWN.
03:20:24
SO ATTORNEYS USUALLY WANT TO VISIT PEOPLE WHEN THEY'RE
03:20:29
DOWNTOWN AND WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO PROVIDE THAT.
03:20:33
AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, WE DON'T HAVE A TRANSPORTATION HUB
03:20:36
WHERE WE CAN HAVE INDIVIDUALS STAND BY WHILE WE'RE GETTING
03:20:39
THE BUSSES LINED UP. COUNTY JAIL ONE IS OUR
03:20:43
TRANSPORTATION HUB RIGHT NOW AND THAT IS CHALLENGING TO MOVE
03:20:46
THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS THAT WE HAVE TO MOVE THROUGH THAT
03:20:48
LOCATION ON TOP OF MAKING SURE THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THEIR
03:20:51
ATTORNEYS. I THINK THE LAST THING THAT YOU
03:20:55
HAD MENTIONED ABOUT ALSO WAS IN-PERSON FAMILY VISITS, FAMILY
03:20:58
VISITS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
03:21:01
WE STILL HAVE OUR PROGRAMS IN PLACE TO PROVIDE FOR FAMILY
03:21:05
VISITATION AT BOTH FACILITIES THAT IS STAFF INTENSIVE BUT
03:21:09
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE TRY TO BEST NOT TO CANCEL OR OR OR
03:21:13
DIMINISH AND I BELIEVE THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO MAINTAIN A
03:21:14
LEVEL OF SERVICE WHERE WE ARE STILL DOING THOSE VISITS.
03:21:20
>> THANK YOU. THERE'S BEEN SOME RECENT
03:21:24
REPORTING IN THE CHRONICLE ON THE FOOD THAT'S BEING SERVED
03:21:25
IN THE JAIL AND I KNOW THIS WAS HIGHLIGHTED IN THE SURVEY OF
03:21:28
INCARCERATED PEOPLE AT US JAIL. WHAT MEASURES ARE YOU
03:21:29
UNDERTAKING TO ADDRESS THE FOOD QUALITY AND INCREASINGLY
03:21:33
EXPENSIVE COMMISSARY? >> THANK YOU FOR THAT AND I
03:21:37
KNOW THAT IT'S BEEN A SUBJECT OF DISCUSSION IN THE MEDIA
03:21:41
AND I KNOW I RESPECT AND APPRECIATE AND UNDERSTAND
03:21:44
THE OPINIONS OF THE QUALITY OF FOOD IN JAIL.
03:21:48
I WILL SAY THAT OUR CURRENT VENDOR ARAMARK DOES WORK TO
03:21:52
MEET OUR CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATIONS THEIR CONTRACTUAL
03:21:56
OBLIGATIONS AND PROVIDE MEALS PROVIDING MEALS TO OVER 1000
03:21:59
PEOPLE A DAY IS A CHALLENGE IN AND OF ITSELF.
03:22:00
I KNOW THAT NUTRITION ALL NEEDS ARE MET.
03:22:03
THEY HAVE A DIETITIAN AND WE ALSO HAVE A NUTRITIONIST
03:22:07
DIETITIAN THAT WE CONTRACT WITH.
03:22:07
WE'RE CURRENTLY FINALIZING ON THE NEXT ONE.
03:22:11
IN FACT RIGHT NOW WE WORK WITH THE JAIL JUSTICE COALITION
03:22:15
AND THEY'RE SUBCOMMITTEE WHICH IS THE FOOD AND AGRICULTURE
03:22:19
ACTION COALITION TOWARD SOVEREIGNTY FACTS.
03:22:21
THEY HAVE PROVIDED US A NUMBER OF RECOMMENDATION IN REGARDS TO
03:22:25
IMPROVING THE VARIETY LESS PROCESSED FOOD MORE FRESH.
03:22:30
ASKING FOR MAKING SURE THERE'S CLEANLINESS AND HAVING HIGHER
03:22:37
IMPACT REFORMS ON OUR SYSTEM IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING ON
03:22:41
RIGHT NOW WITH ARAMARK. THE CONCERN ABOUT HAVING THE
03:22:49
SAME PROVIDER FOR BOTH OUR FOOD SERVICES AND COMMISSARY IS
03:22:55
SOMETHING BEYOND MY CONTROL BECAUSE THAT'S AN THAT'S A RFP
03:22:59
PROCESS AND THE AWARDS ARE GIVEN TO THE BIDDERS BASED ON
03:23:06
THAT PROCESS THIS LAST GO AROUND IT JUST SO HAPPENED THAT
03:23:11
ARAMARK BECAME THE PROVIDER FOR BOTH OUR FOOD SERVICES AND FOR
03:23:14
OUR COMMISSARY. >> THANK YOU.
03:23:21
>> MAYBE THE TERMINOLOGY IS NOT CORRECT AS FAR AS LOCKDOWNS
03:23:25
BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME DORMS IN THE JAIL SYSTEM.
03:23:29
>> WHY ARE FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM LOCKDOWNS SO FREQUENT AT
03:23:33
THE JAILS AND CAN WE EXPECT A DECREASE IN LOCKDOWNS WITH THE
03:23:37
DECREASE OF POPULATION? >> I, I SUPER APPRECIATE THAT
03:23:41
YOU RECOGNIZE THAT THE TERM LOCKDOWN HAS DIFFERENT MEANINGS
03:23:45
TO DIFFERENT PEOPLE. FOR US A SECURITY LOCKDOWN
03:23:49
SOMETHING WHERE WE ACTUALLY LIMIT INDIVIDUALS TO THEIR
03:23:50
HOUSING UNITS IS WHAT WE CONSIDER A LOCKDOWN.
03:23:54
WHEN YOU TALK TO SOMEBODY IN OUR POPULATION OR
03:23:57
INDIVIDUALS AFFECTED BY LOCKDOWNS, IT MAY MEAN
03:24:00
SOMETHING ELSE. I WILL SAY THIS IT'S NOT JUST
03:24:03
THAT YOU CAN EXPECT A DECREASE IN LOCKDOWNS WITH A DECREASE
03:24:07
IN THE POPULATION BECAUSE YOU CAN'T LOCKDOWNS ARE NOT BASED
03:24:09
ON THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WE HAVE.
03:24:12
THEY'RE BASED ON OPERATIONAL NEEDS.
03:24:13
BUT I DO HAVE GOOD NEWS IN REGARDS TO LOCKDOWNS
03:24:16
THEMSELVES AND THAT'S WE'VE BEEN TRACKING THAT.
03:24:19
YOU AND I ARE BOTH FAMILIAR WITH THE CONCERNS RAISED A FEW
03:24:23
YEARS AGO WITH ASSAULTS ON OUR STAFF.
03:24:24
WE HAD A MEETING OF THE WHOLE BODY REGARDING THAT AND I
03:24:28
APPRECIATED THAT OPEN LENS LOOK AT EVERYTHING.
03:24:34
BUT WE STARTED TO TRACK OUR LOCKDOWN PROCESS AND WHETHER OR
03:24:35
NOT PEOPLE WERE BEING CONFINED TO THEIR HOUSING AREAS.
03:24:39
IN THE FIRST QUARTER HERE FOR THIS FISCAL YEAR WE HAD ZERO
03:24:44
FACILITY LOCKDOWNS WHERE EVERYBODY HAD TO GO BACK
03:24:48
AND GET LOCKED DOWN IN BOTH COUNTY JAIL AND ONE I'M SORRY
03:24:52
COUNTY JAIL TO ENCOURAGE YOU THREE.
03:24:53
WE HAD PARTIAL WHERE SPECIFIC COUNTY HOUSING UNITS AT COUNTY
03:24:59
JAIL THREE THERE PODS AND IN THE ANNEX IT'S DORMS AT COUNTY
03:25:06
JAIL THREE WE HAD NINE PARTIAL LOCKDOWNS IN QUARTER ONE
03:25:11
QUARTER TWO WE HAD 26 PARTIAL LOCKDOWNS THERE WAS A COVID
03:25:18
OUTBREAK. THERE WERE ALSO CHALLENGES WITH
03:25:22
SOME SECURITY SEARCHES AND CONCERNS THAT LED TO SOME
03:25:26
OF THOSE PARTIAL LOCKDOWNS. BUT THE ENTIRE FACILITY HAS NOT
03:25:30
BEEN LOCKED DOWN COMPLETELY. AND IN CORNER THREE WE ACTUALLY
03:25:32
ONLY HAD TWO. SO QUARTER THREE COVERS THE
03:25:35
LAST THREE MONTHS NOW AND IT'S STILL IN PROCESS BUT WE HAD TWO
03:25:39
LOCKDOWNS BOTH RELATED TO ONE WEEKEND AND THAT WAS A STAFFING
03:25:43
ISSUE AND IT WAS DIRECTLY RELATED TO A WEDDING OF STAFF
03:25:49
WHICH LED TO A LOT OF SICK LEAVE CALLS.
03:25:53
BUT OTHER THAN THAT ANOMALY WE HAVEN'T HAD ANY LOCKDOWNS
03:25:56
IN THIS QUARTER. >> WHY WERE THERE A LOT OF SICK
03:25:59
CALLS ON ONE WEEKEND? WE HAD A WEDDING OF STAFF
03:26:03
MEMBER OR WEDDING SO IT WAS AN UNANTICIPATED EFFECT ON OUR
03:26:05
STAFFING. >> OKAY.
03:26:11
I'VE HEARD A LOT OF FRUSTRATIONS AND SAW MINISTER
03:26:12
REVEREND CASTOR TO PEOPLE ABOUT HOW DIFFICULT FAMILY VISITATION
03:26:16
IS. YOU TOUCHED ON THIS EARLIER.
03:26:19
ARE YOU ABLE TO REVAMP THE ONLINE RESERVATION SYSTEM TO
03:26:20
MAKE IT EASIER TO BOOK VISITS? >> SO OUR CURRENT SYSTEM WE
03:26:24
ACTUALLY BASED OUR CURRENT SYSTEM ON COMMUNITY FEEDBACK
03:26:27
THE FIRST TIME AROUND. OUR VISITING COMMITTEE IS
03:26:30
RECONVENING AGAIN TO LOOK AT THIS AS PART OF THEIR
03:26:34
OVERARCHING CURRICULUM AND AGENDA.
03:26:37
WE'RE LOOKING TO SEND SURVEYS OUT TO CURRENT USERS TO GET
03:26:39
THEIR FEEDBACK AS WELL FOR THE VISITING COMMITTEE TO REVIEW.
03:26:42
WE ACTUALLY HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY DIRECT COMPLAINTS TO US
03:26:45
IN REGARDS TO THE ONLINE RESERVATION SYSTEM.
03:26:49
WE DO HAVE COMPLAINTS RELATED TO CANCELLATIONS OF VISITS
03:26:53
AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE BUT NOT ON THE SYSTEM ITSELF.
03:26:57
SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING COMMUNITY FEEDBACK ON
03:27:00
WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN MAKE IT EASIER FOR
03:27:02
PEOPLE. >> IS IT ALSO ABLE ARE YOU ABLE
03:27:05
TO PROVIDE MORE AVAILABILITY TO ENSURE WEEKLY AND FAMILY VISITS
03:27:08
ARE POSSIBLE AT DIFFERENT TIMES THROUGHOUT THE WEEK?
03:27:11
>> THAT'S ALWAYS AN ONGOING THING FOR US.
03:27:14
WE'D RATHER SPREAD IT OUT THROUGH THE COURSE OF A WEEK
03:27:16
RATHER THAN HAVING IT ON THE WEEKENDS ALONE.
03:27:19
I DO KNOW THAT WE HAD AT ONE POINT EVENING VISITATION AND WE
03:27:26
DIDN'T GET A LOT OF TAKERS ON THAT AND SO I THINK WE STOPPED
03:27:29
DOING THAT. I KNOW THE FIRST SIX MONTHS OF
03:27:33
2026 HERE IN THIS CALENDAR YEAR, YOU KNOW WE HAD ABOUT A
03:27:36
40% UTILIZATION RATE. WE HAD ABOUT 1550 VISITS TO
03:27:42
COUNTY JAIL, TWO OUT OF 3800 SLOTS AT COUNTY JAIL THREE WE
03:27:47
HAD 4202 SCHEDULED VISITS OUT OF ABOUT 6300 SLOTS.
03:27:48
THAT'S ABOUT A 67% UTILIZATION RATE AND THESE ARE ALL ON THE
03:27:54
WEEKEND VISITS. SO WE'RE LOOKING TO POSSIBLY
03:27:58
HAVING ALTERNATE TIMES TO SEE IF WE GET A BETTER UTILIZATION
03:28:02
ON THOSE VISITS. >> THANK YOU.
03:28:05
HOW ABOUT ALLOWING FOR MORE TIME DURING VISITS AND MAKING
03:28:07
VISITS MORE CHILD FRIENDLY? >> THE CHALLENGE THERE
03:28:10
AND ALLOWING FOR MORE TIME FOR VISITS IT LOWERS THE AMOUNT OF
03:28:13
SLOTS AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE TO CONDUCT VISIT TO VISIT AND WE
03:28:18
ALREADY HAVE CHALLENGES BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO WITHIN A
03:28:21
LIMITED AMOUNT OF SLOTS IN TIME PROVIDE VISITS FOR A LARGE
03:28:25
POPULATION. AND AS I MENTIONED THE
03:28:28
UTILIZATION RATE ISN'T THAT HIGH SOMETIMES.
03:28:29
NOT EVERYBODY GETS VISITS. SO ALLOWING FOR MORE TIME
03:28:36
SOMETIMES HAPPENS ORGANICALLY. IF THERE AREN'T PEOPLE COMING
03:28:39
TO THE NEXT VISIT BUT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY
03:28:41
SCHEDULE. >> THANK YOU.
03:28:43
AND THE VERY LAST QUESTION. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEARING
03:28:46
WITH MY QUESTIONS. OKAY.
03:28:47
MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT YOU WORKED WITH THE SMITH LIBRARY
03:28:50
AND COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS TO INSTITUTE TABLETS AND LOAD THE
03:28:53
TABLETS WITH RESOURCES. AND YET I'VE HEARD EARLIER THIS
03:28:55
YEAR THAT THE VENDOR CHANGED AND NOW ALL THE RESOURCES
03:28:58
AND EDUCATIONAL COURSES ARE NO LONGER ON THE TABLET INCLUDING
03:29:02
LOCAL CONTENT. WELL, YOU COMMIT TO WORKING
03:29:05
WITH US A JAIL JUSTICE COALITION AND OTHERS TO MAKE
03:29:07
SURE PEOPLE CAN ACCESS RESOURCES ON A TABLET THAT WILL
03:29:10
HELP THEM SUCCEED WHEN THEY GET OUT.
03:29:13
>> THE ANSWER IS YES. WE WE CURRENTLY WORK WITH THE
03:29:16
JAIL JUSTICE COALITION AND HAVE BEEN VERY OPEN ABOUT SOLICITING
03:29:20
THEIR INPUT AND OPINION AND RECOMMENDATIONS ON A NUMBER
03:29:24
OF DIFFERENT THINGS. THE TABLET SITUATION AS YOU
03:29:25
MENTIONED WE HAD A CHANGE IN OUR VENDORS FROM NUCLEUS TO
03:29:29
VIA PATH. RIGHT NOW I CAN SAY THAT OUR WE
03:29:32
HAVE THE SAME ADMINISTRATIVE FUNCTIONS ON THE TABLETS THAT
03:29:35
WE HAD BEFORE IN REGARDS TO ACCESS TO OUR PROCEDURAL THINGS
03:29:39
. OUR POPULATION CAN NOW MAKE
03:29:40
PHONE CALLS FROM THE TABLETS WHICH IS GREAT BECAUSE IT HELPS
03:29:44
US WITH MAKING SURE THERE'S ACCESSIBILITY TO THE PHONES,
03:29:48
THE ADDITIONAL CONTENT. ONE OF THE BIGGER COMPLAINTS WE
03:29:51
GOT WE SWITCHED FROM PLUTO TO HOOPLA.
03:29:54
SO WHILE IT STILL PROVIDES MOVIES, ENTERTAINMENT, THINGS
03:29:59
OF THAT NATURE ON THE PLATFORM THERE'S LESS OF A VARIETY ON
03:30:02
HOOPLA THAN THERE IS ON PLUTO. I KNOW THAT THAT WAS OF COURSE
03:30:04
OF CONCERN. THEY STILL HAVE MOST OF THE
03:30:06
FUNCTIONS AND TO RESPOND TO YOUR SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT
03:30:10
PROGRAMS WE HAVE PROGRAMS LIKE BREAKING FREE WHICH IS A
03:30:14
DIGITAL RECOVERY PROGRAM TO AUGMENT THE SERVICES THAT WE
03:30:18
CURRENTLY PROVIDE LIVE AND IN-PERSON.
03:30:19
AND I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A PART OF THAT CURRICULUM THAT
03:30:22
CONTINUES ON TO HELP PEOPLE WITH PREPARING FOR TRANSITION
03:30:26
AND DISCHARGE. WE HAVE SOMETHING CALLED SKYPE
03:30:27
FOR WORK AND WE ALSO HAVE YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY ACCESS TO BOOKS
03:30:37
,MUSIC CHANNELS, RADIO FOR ENTERTAINMENT VALUE AS WELL.
03:30:38
SO I ALSO KNOW THAT THEY NOW HAVE ACCESS TO ALL OF THEIR
03:30:42
ACCOUNT INFORMATION. YOU KNOW, THEIR BOOKS FOR
03:30:45
COMMISSARY FOR OTHER THINGS. SO I BELIEVE THAT WE'VE BEEN
03:30:48
ABLE TO MAINTAIN THE LEVEL OF SERVICE ON THE TABLETS THAT WE
03:30:52
HAD WITH NUCLEUS AND I THINK WE'VE EXPANDED IN SOME AREAS AS
03:30:54
WELL. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH.
03:30:56
>> THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING ALL MY QUESTIONS.
03:31:00
SHERIFF MIYAMOTO, APPRECIATE IT.
03:31:01
>> THANK YOU. AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE IS HERE
03:31:05
TO PRESENT A CONSOLIDATED RESPONSE ON BEHALF OF DPI
03:31:08
AND CAPITAL PLANNING. REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE MAYOR'S
03:31:09
OFFICE. >> CAN YOU COME UP OR.
03:31:15
WE'RE WAITING ON THEM. >> THIS IS I'D LIKE TO TAKE A
03:31:45
QUICK RECESS WHILE WE WAIT. >> MOVE.
03:31:49
TAKE A FIVE MINUTE RECESS. >> S.F. GOV TV SAN FRANCISCO
03:32:17
GOVERNMENT TELEVISION
03:36:00
S.F. GOV TV SAN FRANCISCO GOVERNMENT TELEVISION
03:38:57
S.F. GOV TV SAN FRANCISCO GOVERNMENT TELEVISION OC
03:39:16
MEETING IS BACK IN SESSION. THANK YOU ALL AND THANK YOU TO
03:39:17
THE MAYOR'S OFFICE FOR JOINING US.
03:39:20
>> VICE CHAIR FIELDER THANK YOU.
03:39:23
THANK YOU. >> CHAIR THANK YOU TO THE
03:39:24
MAYOR'S OFFICE FOR BEING HERE. CAN YOU JUST WALK US THROUGH
03:39:27
THE RESPONSES AND MY ONLY QUESTION WAS CAN YOU WALK US
03:39:31
THROUGH THE CAPITAL PLAN FOR THE JAIL'S RESPONSE?
03:39:34
>> SURE. SO THANK YOU, CHAIR.
03:39:35
THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR. MY NAME IS MATTHEW PUCKETT
03:39:38
AND DEPUTY DIRECTOR IN THE MAYOR'S BUDGET OFFICE TO THANK
03:39:42
THE CIVIL GRAND JURY. WE REVIEWED THE REPORT
03:39:46
IN DEPTH, DID A LOT OF LOOKING INTO THE ISSUES RAISED.
03:39:50
>> MM HMM. AND WE DO AGREE ON A LOT OF THE
03:39:54
ISSUES THAT YOU SEE IN THE JAIL.
03:39:55
AND I THINK OUR RESPONSE FOCUSED ON WHAT WE COULD DO TO
03:39:58
IMPROVE OUR PROCESSES WHILE ALSO RECOGNIZING THE THINGS
03:40:02
THAT WE HAVE ALREADY BEEN WORKING ON AND THE THINGS WE
03:40:05
WORK ON MOVING FORWARD. >> SO TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS
03:40:10
IN PARTICULAR THE MAYOR AND HIS SENIOR STAFF HAVE VISITED THE
03:40:14
JAILS AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO SO.
03:40:15
>> THE JAIL HEALTH SYSTEM'S SPECIFIC REPORTING AND CHANGES
03:40:22
ON THE JAIL HEALTH SIDE AND TO A LARGE EXTENT THESE HAVE BEEN
03:40:26
IMPLEMENTED. >> WE WILL NOT BE ISSUING
03:40:30
FORMAL JOINT REPORTS BUT THE WORK WILL CONTINUE BETWEEN JAIL
03:40:34
HEALTH SERVICES AND THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT
03:40:35
SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO THE CAPITAL PLANNING PROCESS.
03:40:40
>> I THINK THE THE REVIEW AND ANALYSIS FROM OUR SIDE IS
03:40:47
THAT WE DO HAVE A VERY ROBUST CAPITAL PLANNING PROCESS
03:40:48
ALREADY. WE DO HEAR FROM THE SHERIFF
03:40:51
AND WORK WITH THEIR TEAM QUITE IN-DEPTH TO EVALUATE THEIR
03:40:55
NEEDS TO MAKE SURE THEIR NEEDS ARE FAIRLY REPRESENTED
03:40:58
IN CAPITAL PLAN SUBMISSIONS. AND WE FEEL THAT A SEPARATE
03:41:02
CAPITAL PLAN, SEPARATE CAPITAL PLANNING PROCESS SPECIFICALLY
03:41:06
FOR ONE DEPARTMENT COULD CREATE A PARALLEL SYSTEM THAT MAY NOT
03:41:10
BE BEST FOR EITHER THE DEPARTMENT OR THE CITY OVERALL.
03:41:13
>> THANK YOU. COLLEAGUES, ANY QUESTIONS OR
03:41:20
REMARKS? REMIND ME YOUR NAME AGAIN.
03:41:21
MATTHEW PUCKETT. MATTHEW PUCKETT.
03:41:24
>> THANK YOU, MR. PUCKETT. ALL RIGHT.
03:41:26
SEEING NONE I JUST WANT THANK YOU.
03:41:29
THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING. I JUST WANT TO THANK THE
03:41:33
SHERIFF MAYOR'S OFFICE FOR ANSWERING OUR QUESTIONS TODAY.
03:41:36
AGAIN, I WANT TO THANK THE CIVIL GRAND JURY FOR ALL THEIR
03:41:38
HARD WORK ON THIS REPORT OVER THE PAST YEAR.
03:41:41
>> THANK YOU, MISS MARGARET KEENE FOR LEADING ON THIS
03:41:44
PRESENTATION TODAY. AND WITH THAT I WILL NOW READ
03:41:45
INTO THE RECORD THE COMMITTEE'S RESPONSE TO THE CIVIL GRAND
03:41:48
JURY'S RECOMMENDATIONS AS WRITTEN IN THE AMENDED
03:41:51
RESOLUTION. >> SO WITH RESPECT TO
03:41:54
RECOMMENDATIONS, FINDING ONE CITY AND COUNTY LEADERSHIP
03:41:58
WOULD BENEFIT FROM FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE OBTAINED THROUGH
03:42:01
INSPECTION OF THE JAIL FACILITIES AND OPERATIONS TO
03:42:02
ENABLE THEM TO BETTER UNDERSTAND HOW POLICY CHANGES
03:42:05
AFFECTING BUDGET AND OPERATIONS FOR THE JAILS IMPACT THE
03:42:08
OPERATION OF THE JAILS. I'M PROPOSING THE CLERK PREPARE
03:42:10
RESPONDS WITH THE FOLLOWING RESOLVE THAT THE BOARD OF
03:42:13
SUPERVISORS REPORTS THE PRESIDING JUDGE OF THE SUPERIOR
03:42:16
COURT THAT THEY AGREE WITH THE FINDING NUMBER ONE REGARDING
03:42:22
RECOMMENDATION ONE A AND ONE A THREE SPECIFICALLY THAT THE
03:42:26
MAYOR ALL MEMBERS OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AND MORE SHOULD
03:42:30
INSPECT THE SAN FRANCISCO AND SAN BRUNO JAILS BY MARCH
03:42:34
1ST, 2027 AND AT LEAST ONCE EVERY TWO YEARS THEREAFTER ANY
03:42:37
INSPECTIONS INVOLVING ONE OR MORE MEMBERS OF BODIES COVERED
03:42:40
BY THE BROWN ACT OR SUNSHINE ORDINANCE SHOULD BE CONDUCTED
03:42:44
SO AS TO NOT CONFLICT WITH THOSE LAWS.
03:42:45
I'M PROPOSING THE CLERK PREPARE A RESPONSE WITH THE FOLLOWING
03:42:48
FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REPORT THE
03:42:52
RECOMMENDATION NUMBER R1A2 HAS NOT YET BEEN IMPLEMENTED BUT
03:42:55
WILL BE IMPLEMENTED BY JUNE FIRST 2027.
03:42:59
>> REGARDING FINDINGS THREE THE JAILS ARE DANGEROUSLY CLOSE TO
03:43:02
CAPACITY AND AS IF SO HAS NOT CONVENED THE CROWDING COMMITTEE
03:43:06
DESPITE MEETING THE CAPACITY TRIGGERS OUTLINING THE CUSTODY
03:43:09
AND CORE OPERATIONS MANUAL POLICY FIVE 11.2 I PROPOSING
03:43:13
THE CLERK PREPARE A RESPONSE WITH THE FOLLOWING FURTHER
03:43:16
RESOLVES THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REPORTS TO THE
03:43:18
PRESIDING JUDGE OF THE SUPERIOR COURT THAT THEY DISAGREE
03:43:21
PARTIALLY WITH FINDING NUMBER F THREE FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS
03:43:24
WHILE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ACKNOWLEDGES THE REPORT'S
03:43:28
FINDING THAT THE JAIL OCCUPANCY RATE EXCEEDED 80% FOR OVER A
03:43:31
YEAR IN 2025 AND IS ON TRACK TO DO SO AGAIN IN 2026.
03:43:35
>> THE THRESHOLD CITED IN THE REPORT IS NOT THE THRESHOLD FOR
03:43:38
CONVENING THE CROWDING COMMITTEE BUT FOR CONDUCTING A
03:43:40
FACILITY NEEDS ASSESSMENT AS A FISCAL POLICY FIVE 11.3 AS OF A
03:43:45
SO POLICY FIVE 11.2 STIPULATES THAT THE SHERIFF CONVENE A
03:43:49
CROWDING COMMITTEE WHEN THE NUMBER OF INCARCERATED PERSONS
03:43:52
EXCEEDS THE APPROVED BED CAPACITY OF A FACILITY WELL AS
03:43:56
OF US SO POLICY FIVE 11.3 REQUIRES THE DEPARTMENT TO
03:43:59
INITIATE A JAIL NEEDS ASSESSMENT QUOTE IN THE EVENT
03:44:01
THAT EACH COUNTY JAIL MAINTAINS AN AVERAGE 80% OCCUPANCY RATE
03:44:04
CONSISTENTLY FOR ONE YEAR UNQUOTE THE THRESHOLD FOR
03:44:11
POLICY FIVE 11.3 HAS BEEN MET WHILE THE THRESHOLD FOR POLICY
03:44:14
FIVE 11.2 HAS NOT YET BEEN MET. THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AGREES
03:44:18
THAT THE OFFICER SHOULD INITIATE A JAIL NEEDS
03:44:19
ASSESSMENT ACCORDING TO POLICY FIVE 11.3 REGARDING
03:44:22
RECOMMENDATION THREE A BY NOVEMBER 1ST 2026 AS A FIRST
03:44:28
SOCIAL CONVENE THE CROWN AND COMMITTEE IN ADDITION TO
03:44:29
THE PERSON SPECIFIED IN POLICY FIVE 11.2 A THROUGH G
03:44:32
REPRESENTATIVE OF THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S SERVICES CO
03:44:37
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT OVERSIGHT BOARD AND THE BOARD SHOULD ALSO
03:44:39
BE INVITED. I AM PROPOSING THE CLERK
03:44:40
PREPARE A RESPONSE WITH THE FOLLOWING FURTHER RESOLVED THAT
03:44:43
THE RECOMMENDATION WILL NOT BE IMPLEMENTED BECAUSE IT DOES NOT
03:44:47
WARRANTED OR REASONABLE AS A THRESHOLD FOR POLICY FIVE 11.2
03:44:50
HAS NOT YET BEEN MET. THE NUMBER OF INCARCERATED
03:44:54
PERSONS HAS NOT YET EXCEEDED THE APPROVED BED CAPACITY OF A
03:44:55
FACILITY REGARDING FINDING FIVE THE JAILS POPULATION HAS
03:45:01
INCREASINGLY COMPLEX HEALTH NEEDS, PARTICULARLY MENTAL
03:45:02
HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE USE PROBLEMS WHICH REQUIRE MORE
03:45:06
CLINICAL AND CUSTODIAL RESOURCES THAN THE SYSTEM IS
03:45:10
DESIGNED TO REPORT TO SUPPORT. I AM PROPOSING THE CLERK
03:45:13
PREPARE A RESPONSE WITH THE FOLLOWING FURTHER RESOLVED THAT
03:45:14
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REPORTS THE PRESIDING JUDGE TO
03:45:17
THE SUPERIOR COURT THAT THEY AGREE WITH A FINDING NUMBER
03:45:20
FIVE REGARDING RECOMMENDATION FIVE A BY JANUARY 21ST 2027 AS
03:45:26
VESTS ON J H S SHOULD JOINTLY ISSUE A REPORT ANALYZING THE
03:45:30
GREATEST BARRIERS TO MEETING AN INMATE TREATMENT NEEDS FOR
03:45:33
MEDICAL CARE INCLUDING MENTAL HEALTH CARE AND SUBSTANCE USE
03:45:37
TREATMENT IDENTIFY PRIORITY ACTIONS WITHIN THEIR RESPECTIVE
03:45:40
AREAS OF AUTHORITY THAT COULD BE IMPLEMENTED TO BETTER MEET
03:45:42
THOSE NEEDS TO IMPROVE SUPPORT AND ADDRESS POTENTIAL SOURCES
03:45:46
OF STAFFING AND FUNDING. I AM PROPOSING THE CLERK
03:45:50
PREPARE A RESPONSE WITH THE FOLLOWING FOR THE RESOLVE OF
03:45:53
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REPORTS AND RECOMMENDATION
03:45:54
NUMBER R FIVE A WILL NOT BE IMPLEMENTED BY THE BOARD OF
03:45:58
SUPERVISORS BECAUSE IT IS NOT WARRANTED OR REASONABLE.
03:46:01
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS NOT DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
03:46:05
PREPARATION OF REPORTS BY THE YEARS OF ISO AND JILL GEORGE'S
03:46:08
. HOWEVER THE BOARD OF
03:46:09
SUPERVISORS URGES ESPRESSO ENGAGED US TO JOINTLY ISSUE A
03:46:13
REPORT ANALYZING THE GREATEST BARRIERS TO MEETING INMATE
03:46:16
TREATMENT NEEDS FOR MEDICAL CARE INCLUDING MENTAL HEALTH
03:46:17
CARE AND SUBSTANCE USE TREATMENT, IDENTIFY PRIORITY
03:46:20
ACTIONS WITHIN THEIR RESPECTIVE AREAS OF AUTHORITY THAT COULD
03:46:24
BE IMPLEMENTED TO BETTER MEET THOSE NEEDS TO IMPROVE SUPPORT
03:46:27
AND ADDRESS POTENTIAL SOURCES OF STAFFING AND FUNDING
03:46:28
REGARDING RECOMMENDATION FIVE BE THE REPORT SHOULD ALSO
03:46:31
ASSESS PRIORITIZE AND DEVELOP A TIMELINE TO TIMETABLE FOR
03:46:36
POSSIBLE IMPLEMENTATION OF IDENTIFIED ACTIONS WITHIN THEIR
03:46:40
RESPECTIVE AREAS OF AUTHORITY INCLUDING THE FEASIBILITY OF 24
03:46:43
SEVEN MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES. I AM PROPOSING THE CLERK OF THE
03:46:47
BOARD PREPARE A RESPONSE WITH THE FOLLOWING FURTHER RESOLVED
03:46:48
THAT THE BOARD ADVISORS REPORTS THE RECOMMENDATION R5B WILL NOT
03:46:52
BE IMPLEMENTED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS BECAUSE IT IS NOT
03:46:55
WARRANTED OR REASONABLE. BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS NOT
03:46:58
DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PREPARATION OF REPORTS BY THE
03:47:02
SFA SO ENGAGE US. HOWEVER THE BOARD OF
03:47:03
SUPERVISORS URGES THE IF SO ENGAGE US TO JOINTLY ISSUE A
03:47:07
REPORT ANALYZING THE GREATEST BARRIERS TO MEETING INMATE
03:47:10
TREATMENT NEEDS FOR MEDICAL CARE INCLUDING MENTAL HEALTH
03:47:13
CARE AND SUBSTANCE USE TREATMENT IDENTIFY PRIORITY
03:47:14
ACTIONS WITHIN THEIR RESPECTIVE AREAS OF AUTHORITY THAT COULD
03:47:18
BE IMPLEMENTED TO BETTER MEET THOSE NEEDS TO IMPROVE SUPPORT
03:47:21
AND ADDRESS POTENTIAL SOURCE OF STAFFING AND FUNDING REGARDING
03:47:24
RECOMMENDATION FIVE SEE BEGINNING ON APRIL 1ST 2027 AS
03:47:29
FASO ENGAGE US SHOULD ISSUE REGULAR UPDATES AT LEAST
03:47:33
QUARTERLY AND INCLUDE A DASHBOARD SHOWING THE STATUS OF
03:47:34
ALL ITEMS ON THE TIMETABLE REFERENCED IN R5B AND REPORTING
03:47:37
WHETHER THE SPECIFIC ACTION HAS BEEN ACHIEVED AND IF NOT WHY
03:47:41
NOT? >> I'M PROPOSING THE CLERK
03:47:44
PREPARE A RESPONSE WITH THE FOLLOWING FURTHER RESOLVE THAT
03:47:46
THE BOARD SUPERVISORS REPORTS THAT RECOMMENDATION NUMBER R5C
03:47:50
WILL NOT BE IMPLEMENTED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS BECAUSE IT
03:47:52
IS NOT WARRANTED OR REASONABLE. BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS NOT
03:47:55
DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OPERATION OF REPORTS BIAS OF
03:47:59
ISO AND DHS. HOWEVER THE BOARD OR
03:48:03
SUPERVISORS CONCURS THAT IT WOULD BE USEFUL FOR THE US IF
03:48:04
US SO ENGAGE US TO ISSUE REGULAR UPDATES THAT INCLUDE A
03:48:07
DASHBOARD. >> OUR RECOMMENDATION IN OUR
03:48:11
FIVE D THE REPORT SHOULD ALSO IDENTIFY PRIORITY ACTIONS NOT
03:48:15
WITHIN THE AREAS OF AUTHORITY OF THE S FOUR SO IN J-JUST THAT
03:48:17
COULD POSSIBLY BE IMPLEMENTED BY ACTIONS OF THE MAYOR ABSENT
03:48:20
AN ORDINANCE AND OR THE BOSS BY AN ORDINANCE PROPOSING TO
03:48:24
PREPARE A RESPONSE WITH THE FOLLOWING FURTHER RESOLVED THAT
03:48:27
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS REPORTS THE RECOMMENDATION
03:48:28
NUMBER R FIVE C WILL NOT BE IMPLEMENTED BY THE BOARD OF
03:48:31
SUPERVISORS BECAUSE IT IS NOT WARRANTED OR REASONABLE.
03:48:34
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IS NOT DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
03:48:38
PREPARATION OF REPORTS BY THE SFA SO ENGAGE US.
03:48:41
HOWEVER, THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS CONCURS THAT IT
03:48:42
WOULD BE USEFUL FOR THE SFA SO AND J JUST TO IDENTIFY PRIORITY
03:48:46
ACTIONS THAT COULD BE INITIATED THROUGH LOCAL LEGISLATION
03:48:49
FINDINGS SEVEN FOR AT LEAST THE LAST AT LEAST A DECADE THE CITY
03:48:54
HAS DECLINED TO MAKE MAJOR CAPITAL INVESTMENTS IN JAIL
03:48:58
FACILITIES BUT THE RESULT THAT THE JAILS ARE OPERATING AN
03:48:59
AGING BUILDINGS THAT DO NOT MEET CURRENT OPERATIONAL,
03:49:02
CLINICAL OR SAFETY NEEDS. I'M PROPOSING THE CLERK PREPARE
03:49:06
A RESPONSE WITH THE FOLLOWING FURTHER RESOLVE WITH THE BOARD
03:49:08
OF SUPERVISORS REPORTS THE PRESIDING JUDGE OF THE SUPERIOR
03:49:10
COURT THAT THEY AGREE WITH FINDING NUMBER SEVEN REGARDING
03:49:13
RECOMMENDATION SEVEN A BY OCTOBER 26TH THE MAYOR SHOULD
03:49:16
DIRECT THE DPW AND THE OFFICE OF THE RESILIENCE AND CAPITAL
03:49:20
PLANNING IN COORDINATION WITH US OFFICER ANDY PAGE TO DEVELOP
03:49:23
A COMPREHENSIVE JAIL RESILIENCE AND CAPITAL PLAN.
03:49:27
I'M PROPOSING THE CLERK PREPARE A RESPONSE WITH THE FOLLOWING
03:49:28
FURTHER RESOLVE THE BOARD'S ADVISORS REPORTS THAT
03:49:31
RECOMMENDATION R7A WILL NOT BE IMPLEMENTED BY THE BOARD OF
03:49:34
SUPERVISORS BECAUSE IT IS UNWARRANTED.
03:49:37
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DOES NOT HAVE JURISDICTION OVER THE
03:49:39
MAYOR'S OFFICE OR OFFICER RESILIENCE IN CAPITAL PLANNING.
03:49:42
HOWEVER THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FINDS THAT
03:49:45
RECOMMENDATION SEVEN NEED TO DEVELOP A COMPREHENSIVE JAIL
03:49:46
RESILIENCE AND CAPITAL PLAN CAN BE USEFUL IN ADDRESSING FINDING
03:49:50
NUMBER SEVEN AND FINALLY RECOMMENDATION SEVEN B BY MARCH
03:49:55
1ST 2027 THE REPORT SHOULD BE PRESENTED TO THE US AND BY MAY
03:49:59
1ST 2027 THE BOSS OR COMMITTEE THAT ARE SHOULD HAVE A HEARING
03:50:03
ON THE REPORT I AM PROPOSING THE CLERK OF PREPARE A RESPONSE
03:50:04
WITH THE FALLING FURTHER RESOLVED THAT THE BOARD OF
03:50:07
SUPERVISORS REPORTS THAT RECOMMENDATION NUMBER R7B WILL
03:50:11
NOT BE IMPLEMENTED BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS BECAUSE IT IS
03:50:14
UNWARRANTED. THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS DOES
03:50:15
NOT HAVE JURISDICTION OVER THE MAYOR'S OFFICE OR OFFICE OF
03:50:19
RESILIENCE AND CAPITAL PLANNING BUT FINDS THAT SUCH A HEARING
03:50:22
CAN BE USEFUL. >> COLLEAGUES ANY QUESTIONS?
03:50:26
>> NO, THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.
03:50:30
>> I THINK WE CAN GO TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
03:50:31
MADAM CLERK, WE TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT PLACE.
03:50:32
YES. EXCUSE ME.
03:50:34
MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM SHOULD
03:50:36
LINE UP NOW ALONG THE SIDE BY THE WINDOWS.
03:50:38
ALL SPEAKERS WILL HAVE ONE MINUTE.
03:50:44
>> GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JOSHUA COLDWELL FROM
03:50:48
NORDSTROM CASA ONE RECOMMENDATION WE ALSO WANT TO
03:50:51
MAKE IS JUST CONNECTING WITH THE OVERSIGHT BOARD THAT
03:50:52
CURRENTLY EXISTS. THEY HAVE NOT HAD AN INSPECTOR
03:50:55
GENERAL FOR OVER A YEAR NOW AND THAT WAS MANDATED INTO THE
03:50:59
BALLOT WHEN IT WAS VOTED IN AND I SAW SOMETHING QUICKLY I WROTE
03:51:05
THE ABSURDITY OF NOT LISTENING TO SAN FRANCISCO VOTERS WHO
03:51:07
UNANIMOUSLY SUPPORTED ON THE INSPECTOR GENERAL TO OVERSEE
03:51:10
THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT FOR THE KINDS OF VIOLATIONS THAT
03:51:14
WE'RE SEEING TODAY LIKE MULTIPLE SEXUAL ASSAULT
03:51:16
ALLEGATIONS IS BIZARRE THAT THIS IS NOT IN PLACE AS A
03:51:18
PRIORITY FOR US AS A CITY AND COUNTY ALSO TO WE HAVE A A
03:51:25
REHABILITATIVE GROUP AT THE SAN BERNARDINO AND IT'S ALSO THE
03:51:29
SECOND HALF IS CIVIC ENGAGEMENT .
03:51:32
IF YOU EVER EVER WOULD LIKE TO VISIT OR KNOW MORE WE'RE HERE
03:51:34
AND AVAILABLE LIKE YOU. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS
03:51:40
. DO WE HAVE ANY ADDITIONAL
03:51:40
SPEAKERS FOR ITEMS 11 AND 12 MR. CHAIR THAT COMPLETES PUBLIC
03:51:46
COMMENT. >> THANK YOU.
03:51:47
SENIOR SPEAKERS PUBLIC COMMENTS NOW CLOSED.
03:51:50
VICE CHAIR FIELDER WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE MOTIONS?
03:51:53
>> YES. I NOW MOVED TO ACCEPT THE
03:51:55
AMENDMENTS AS PRESENTED FOR ITEM 12 AND CLERK PLEASE CALL
03:52:01
THE ROLL. YES AND ON THE EMAIL THE MOTION
03:52:03
TO ACCEPT THE AMENDMENTS AS PRESENTED FOR ITEM NUMBER 12
03:52:06
REMEMBER WONG REMEMBER WONG I LIKE YOUR FILTER.
03:52:10
>> I LIKE YOUR FILTER. >> I CHAIR CHERYL.
03:52:14
ALL RIGHT. SURE.
03:52:15
CHERYL I HAVE THREE EYES. >> THANK YOU.
03:52:17
THE MOTION PASSES I NOW MOVE TO FORWARD THE AMENDED RESOLUTION
03:52:20
ITEM 12 THE FULL BOARD WITH POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION.
03:52:24
>> THANK YOU, MADAM CLERK. CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
03:52:25
YES. AND ON THE MOTION TO FOR THE
03:52:27
AMENDED RESOLUTION FOR ITEM 12 TO THE FULL BOARD WITH POSITIVE
03:52:31
RECOMMENDATION MEMBER WONG REMEMBER WONG I VICE CHAIR
03:52:36
FILTER BLESS YOUR FILTER I CHAIR CHERYL HI CHERYL I HAVE
03:52:39
THREE EYES. >> THANK YOU.
03:52:40
THE MOTION PASSES SEEING THAT IN ONE OF OUR RESPONSES ALL
03:52:44
MEMBERS OF THE BOARD COMMIT TO INSPECT THE SAN FRANCISCO
03:52:48
AND SAN BRUNO JAILS BY JUNE FIRST, 2027 AND AT LEAST ONCE
03:52:52
EVERY TWO YEARS THEREAFTER. I NOW MOVE TO CONTINUE THE
03:52:55
HEARING ITEM 11 TO THE CALL OF THE CHAIR.
03:52:59
>> MADAM CLERK YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL.
03:53:00
YES. AND THEN THE MOTION TO CONTINUE
03:53:02
ITEM 11 THE HEARING TO THE CALL OF THE CHAIR.
03:53:07
>> REMEMBER WONG REMEMBER WONG I VICE FILNER I ASSURE FIELDER
03:53:11
I CHAIR CHERYL SURE CHERYL I HAVE THREE EYES.
03:53:14
THANK YOU. THE MOTION PASSES.
03:53:15
AND WITH THAT THAT CONCLUDES THE CIVIL GRAND JURY PORTION OF
03:53:18
TODAY'S HEARING. >> A MAJOR THANK YOU TO ALL THE
03:53:22
MEMBERS OF THE CIVIL GRAND JURY .
03:53:25
YOU TAKE INCREDIBLE THOUGHTFULNESS, DEDICATION TO
03:53:30
THIS. YOU NEVER REALLY RECEIVED REAL
03:53:33
THANKS AND GRATITUDE MAYBE BEYOND THIS CHAMBER BUT LET IT
03:53:37
BE KNOWN THAT YOUR YOUR EFFORTS DO NOT GO UNSEEN BY AT LEAST US
03:53:42
THREE AND I KNOW OUR EIGHT COLLEAGUES WOULD SAY THE SAME.
03:53:45
>> SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'D ALSO LIKE TO THANK
03:53:48
PRESENTERS FROM THE MAYOR'S OFFICE FROM THE CITY
03:53:51
DEPARTMENTS, EVEN THOSE THAT MAY NOT NECESSARILY HAVE
03:53:53
EXPECTED TO PRESENT. THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE
03:53:56
TODAY. AND WITH THAT, MADAM CLERK,
03:53:59
PLEASE CALL ITEM NUMBER 13. >> YES.
03:54:01
ITEM NUMBER 13 IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE LABOR
03:54:02
AND EMPLOYMENT CODE TO REVISE THE HEALTHY AIRPORT ORDINANCE
03:54:06
TO MODIFY BEGINNING ON THE LATER OF JANUARY 1ST, 2027 OR
03:54:09
THE EFFECTIVE DATE OF THIS ORDINANCE CONTRACTING PARTIES
03:54:13
OBLIGATIONS FOR PROVIDING MINIMUM HEALTH CARE
03:54:17
EXPENDITURES TO CERTAIN AIRPORT WORKERS.
03:54:18
>> THANK YOU. TODAY WE'RE JOINED BY SOPHIE
03:54:22
MARIE FROM BOARD PRESIDENT RAFAEL MENDELSSOHN'S OFFICE
03:54:23
PRIMARY SPONSOR OF THIS LEGISLATION AND I BELIEVE CITY
03:54:26
ATTORNEY BRAD RUSTY WILL ALSO BE AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AS
03:54:30
READ PLEASE. THE FLOOR IS YOURS.
03:54:33
>> THANK YOU CHAIR CHERYL AND GOOD AFTERNOON VICE CHAIR
03:54:37
FIELDER AND SUPERVISOR WANG MY NAME IS SOPHIE MARIE AND I'M
03:54:39
THE CHIEF OF STAFF FOR PRESIDENT MADELINE'S OFFICE.
03:54:42
I'LL KEEP THIS BRIEF. IT'S BEEN A LONG AGENDA.
03:54:45
>> THE HEALTHY AIRPORT ORDINANCE WAS ORIGINALLY PASSED
03:54:46
BY THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS IN NOVEMBER 2020 AND THEN IT
03:54:51
WAS FIRST AMENDED IN NOVEMBER 2025.
03:54:52
THE ORIGINAL ACO HELPED THOUSANDS OF SAN FRANCISCO
03:54:56
AIRPORT SERVICE WORKERS GAIN OR IMPROVE THEIR ABILITY TO
03:54:59
PROVIDE FOR THE HEALTH CARE NEEDS OF THEIR FAMILIES.
03:55:01
>> THESE IMPROVED BENEFITS HELP ATTRACT AND RETAIN HIGH QUALITY
03:55:04
EMPLOYEES WHOSE WORK AFFECTS THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF OUR
03:55:09
AIRPORT AND EVERYONE WHO TRAVELS THROUGH IT.
03:55:11
>> THE AMENDMENTS FROM 2025 PRESERVE THE SAFETY
03:55:15
AND SECURITY IMPROVEMENTS BROUGHT BY THE ORIGINAL EGO
03:55:16
AND PROVIDED COVERED EMPLOYERS WITH EXPANDED FLEXIBILITY TO
03:55:20
DETERMINE HOW TO BEST PROVIDE HEALTH CARE EXPENDITURES TO
03:55:24
THEIR EMPLOYEES. >> THIS ITEM IS A SECOND ROUND
03:55:28
OF AMENDMENTS TO THE HQ AND SPECIFICALLY MAKES THREE
03:55:31
CHANGES. >> FIRST, IT REPLACES THE
03:55:32
CURRENT TIERED RATE WITH A SINGLE RATE.
03:55:35
SECONDLY, IT CREATES AN ALTERNATIVE PATH TO COMPLIANCE
03:55:38
. AND LASTLY IT SETS AN HOURS
03:55:38
BASED COVERAGE THRESHOLD FOR AIRPORT SERVICE EMPLOYEES.
03:55:42
>> THIS ITEM ONCE AGAIN PRESERVES THE GAINS OF THE H0
03:55:47
WHILE RESPONDING TO CONCERNS THAT COVERED EMPLOYERS HAVE
03:55:50
RAISED ABOUT THOSE OBLIGATIONS. >> I'D LIKE TO THANK DEPUTY
03:55:54
CITY ATTORNEYS IAN ELIAS OFF AND MATTHEW GOLDBERG FOR THEIR
03:55:56
WORK ON THE HEALTHY AIRPORT ORDINANCE AND ITS SUBSEQUENT
03:55:59
AMENDMENTS. MEMBERS OF THE GAO COMMITTEE I
03:56:03
ASK THAT YOU FOR THIS ITEM TO THE FULL BOARD WITH
03:56:04
RECOMMENDATION. AND NOW I WILL TURN IT OVER TO
03:56:07
DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY BRAD RUSTY TO SAY A FEW WORDS AND ANSWER
03:56:10
ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
03:56:11
>> THANK YOU. >> GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN,
03:56:14
SUPERVISORS DEPUTY CITY ATTORNEY BRAD RUSTY VERY
03:56:17
BRIEFLY ON THIS ITEM. AS YOU ALL KNOW, SHORTLY AFTER
03:56:21
THE HEALTHY AIRPORT ORDINANCE WAS APPROVED IN 2020, IT WAS
03:56:24
CHALLENGED BY THE INDUSTRY GROUP THAT REPRESENTS THE
03:56:28
AIRLINES AT THE AIRPORT. >> THAT LAWSUIT HAS BEEN
03:56:31
LITIGATED FOR SINCE THEN BY MY OFFICE THROUGH A LOT OF UPS
03:56:36
AND DOWNS. AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO INTO
03:56:39
CLOSED SESSION ON THE NEXT ITEM I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY
03:56:43
QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT THAT OR IF YOU'D LIKE AN INDIVIDUAL
03:56:44
BRIEFING AFTER THE MEETING I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS
03:56:48
CONFIDENTIALLY. BUT WHAT I CAN SAY IS THE
03:56:52
SETTLEMENT THAT IS THE SUBJECT OF THE APPROVAL AND THE NEXT
03:56:56
ITEM REQUIRES THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ADOPT THESE
03:56:59
AMENDMENTS THAT ARE PROPOSED IN THIS ORDINANCE.
03:57:03
>> THANK YOU COLLEAGUES. ANY QUESTIONS?
03:57:07
SEEING NO QUESTIONS I'D LIKE TO OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT.
03:57:10
>> YES, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM
03:57:12
NUMBER 13 SHOULD LINE UP NOW ALONG THE SIDE BY THE WINDOWS.
03:57:16
ALL SPEAKERS WILL HAVE ONE MINUTE.
03:57:21
MR. CHAIR, WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THIS ITEM.
03:57:26
THANK YOU. SEE NO SPEAKERS PUBLIC COMMENTS
03:57:27
CLOSED. AND WITH THAT I'D LIKE TO
03:57:30
FORWARD THIS TO THE FULL BOARD WITH POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION.
03:57:33
>> AND MADAM CLERK, CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL?
03:57:35
YES, MA'AM. THE MOTION TO FORWARD ITEM 13
03:57:37
TO THE FULL BOARD WITH A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION.
03:57:38
>> REMEMBER WANG REMEMBER WANG I SURE FILTER BY SHEER FILTER I
03:57:45
CHAIR CHERYL. >> HI.
03:57:46
YOU'RE CHERYL. I HAVE THREE EYES.
03:57:47
THANK YOU. MOTION PASSES.
03:57:49
CAN YOU PLEASE CALL ITEM NUMBER 14?
03:57:53
>> YES. ITEM NUMBER 14 IS AN ORDINANCE
03:57:54
AUTHORIZING SETTLEMENT OF THE LAWSUIT FILED BY AMERICAN
03:57:57
AIRLINES AIRLINES FOR AMERICA AGAINST THE CITY AND COUNTY OF
03:58:01
SAN FRANCISCO FOR $0 IN NON-MONETARY TERMS INCLUDING
03:58:05
THAT AIRLINES FOR AMERICA WILL DISMISS ITS CURRENT LAWSUIT
03:58:08
CONTINGENT ON THE ENACTMENT OF AN ORDINANCE MAKING SPECIFIC
03:58:12
AMENDMENTS TO THE HEALTHY AIRPORT ORDINANCE WITH EACH
03:58:16
PARTY TO PAY WITH THEIR OWN COSTS.
03:58:16
THE LAWSUIT WAS FILED ON MARCH 31ST, 2021 IN THE UNITED STATES
03:58:20
DISTRICT COURT NORTHERN DISTRICT OF CALIFORNIA.
03:58:24
>> CASE NUMBER 321 CV 02341 DASH EMC AND TITLE AIRLINES FOR
03:58:31
AMERICA FOR THE CITY AND COUNTY OF SAN FRANCISCO.
03:58:35
>> THE LAWSUIT INVOLVES A FEDERAL PREEMPTION
03:58:38
AND CONSTITUTIONAL CHALLENGE TO THE OF THE HEALTHY AIRPORT
03:58:42
ORDINANCE. >> THANK YOU TO THE QUESTION OF
03:58:43
MY COLLEAGUES I'D LIKE TO OPEN PUBLIC COMMENT.
03:58:46
YES, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WISH TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM
03:58:47
SHALL LINE UP NOW ON THE SIDE BY THE WINDOWS.
03:58:50
>> ALL SPEAKERS WILL HAVE ONE MINUTE.
03:58:53
MR. CHAIR, WE HAVE NO PUBLIC COMMENT FOR ITEM NUMBER 14.
03:58:58
>> SENIOR SPEAKERS PUBLIC COMMENTS NOW CLOSED AND I'D
03:59:01
LIKE TO MOVE TO SEND ITEM 14 TO THE FULL BOARD OF SUPERVISORS A
03:59:05
POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION ITEM CLERK CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE
03:59:08
ROLL? >> YES AND ON THE MOTION TO
03:59:10
FORWARD ITEM 14 TO THE FULL BOARD WITH A POSITIVE
03:59:11
RECOMMENDATION NUMBER. >> WANG REMEMBER WANG I
03:59:15
VICE-CHAIR FIELDER FISCHER FIELDER I CHAIR CHERYL CHAIR
03:59:18
CHERYL I HAVE THREE EYES THANK YOU.
03:59:21
>> THE MOTION PASSES. MADAM CLERK DO WE HAVE ANY
03:59:23
OTHER BUSINESS? MR. CHAIR THAT COMPLETES OUR
03:59:26
MEETING AGENDA SO YOU KNOW OTHER BUSINESS WE ADJOURNED